Magister Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 (edited) But you are Scittish though so it doesn't count! Edited February 12, 2017 by Magister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 I don't mind people fishing for a bite, it can be highly amusing, been known to do it myself once in a while. But you Magister, you're being serious. I actually wouldn't be surprised if you'd informed the police. What a knobhead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twisbrogan Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 The noise greeting Ngoo coming on to the pitch is without a shadow of a doubt racist....non malicious but nevertheless racist Even as one of the most lefty, liberal, Remainer snowflakes I know (that has felt very uncomfortable with 'Oooh Roger Palmer' when directed at stewards, etc), even I think that's a madness. The noise is in line same as what Joe Root & Luke Donald get when they make an appearance. Surely Ngoo gets that privilege because of his fairly standout athletic style which makes it a bit of event when he's coming on & the direct opposite emotion to that when Paul Green and Ollie 'sodding' Banks do the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flemboy Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Even as one of the most lefty, liberal, Remainer snowflakes I know (that has felt very uncomfortable with 'Oooh Roger Palmer' when directed at stewards, etc), even I think that's a madness. The noise is in line same as what Joe Root & Luke Donald get when they make an appearance. Surely Ngoo gets that privilege because of his fairly standout athletic style which makes it a bit of event when he's coming on & the direct opposite emotion to that when Paul Green and Ollie 'sodding' Banks do the same. Exactly.Magister is a wind up straight from the Viz.A result of a liason between Militant and Finbar Saunders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosa Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 You don't think dickhead is a gender insult? No, I don't. I don't think :censored: or :censored: are either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosa Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 I'm not entirely comfortable with the Ngoo shout, not cos I think it's racist, but in case it sounds like we're booing him. On the other hand it sounds like the old Inspiral Carpets mooing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 It's a similar chant / noise to that used for Joe Root and Bruce Springsteen. Putting him on a par with a successful cricketer and musician is racist? Silly person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueatheart Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 The noise greeting Ngoo coming on to the pitch is without a shadow of a doubt racist....non malicious but nevertheless racist I couldn't disagree more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magister Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 It's a similar chant / noise to that used for Joe Root and Bruce Springsteen. Putting him on a par with a successful cricketer and musician is racist? Silly person. As justifications go O4U that is up there with the Met Police of the 80s.. As for you Twisbrogan you even single out his physical appearance as the reason for the chant. Youare absolutely right though that ooh roger Palmer is used racially, by the same people who are now...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magister Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 I couldn't disagree more. You think it is malicious then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 As justifications go O4U that is up there with the Met Police of the 80s.. As for you Twisbrogan you even single out his physical appearance as the reason for the chant. Youare absolutely right though that ooh roger Palmer is used racially, by the same people who are now...... You are right about Palmer, wrong about Ngoo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythemostimportantkick Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Magister you must get offended everyday of your life several times I'd guess. Why don't you confront these racist thugs at the next game ? A strongly worded letter should do the trick. Ponce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 You are right about Palmer, wrong about Ngoo. The Roger Palmer chant isn't racist either. Show me a definition of racism that covers that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 The Roger Palmer chant isn't racist either. Show me a definition of racism that covers that. It tends to only appear in the presence of black stewards etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magister Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 So where are we now? We seem to have an acceptance that a section use " ooh Roger Palmer" as a rascist chant. We have a suggestion that the same section are now using a chant because of his physical attributes....but We have some apologists( I stress some) for the alleged abusive chants topping and tailing their thought through posts with " ponce "dickhead" " bellend" "tart". Ummm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 The Roger Palmer chant at the black linesman is racist, something I find particularly embarrassing. It is disappearing but it does still exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magister Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 The Roger Palmer chant isn't racist either. Show me a definition of racism that covers that. If you cannot see the the Roger Palmer chant is used racially ...wow just wow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 We should start a new thread, chants that sound like booing or sound racist. We can then have a long discussion about it. Can I open with Matt "Kooooch" Kuchar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Ruuuuuuby Ruuuuuuby Is a chant I liked at the Cheltenham Festival as he rode another winner, not sure if that's racist or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magister Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 We should start a new thread, chants that sound like booing or sound racist. We can then have a long discussion about it. Can I open with Matt "Kooooch" Kuchar. You are right disjointed....the issue is whether the chant is a play on the name or a" zuluistic" noise. My problem with the Root , Kucher, Springsteen defence is that the rendition of the name emerged over time as they became extremely successful in their fields....with this chant it was used the very first time he came on the field , before he had kicked a ball and therefore It has to at least to be considered that it is based on his physical appearance ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scapegoat Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 The Roger Palmer chant being used as a (not so) subtle form of racism is one of the most embarrassing times I have following Latics. What must our all time leading scorer think? As for the Ngoo chant being used racially - not sure at the moment. There are a number of chants that create that type of long "oooh" sound across a range of sports, and Ngoo's name fits perfectly with that trend. It's used when he comes on, not an unreasonable time to chant a players name. We have other black players that are not subject to anti-racial chanting (as far as I can tell) And genuinely (as this thread has proven) there are plenty that seem to appreciate what he brings to the team and has adopted a very early cult following (The chants of "Ernie" when Cooksey first arrived spring to mind). So, think the whole Ngoo chant is racist is perhaps a bit of a jump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh_latics Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 You are right disjointed....the issue is whether the chant is a play on the name or a" zuluistic" noise. My problem with the Root , Kucher, Springsteen defence is that the rendition of the name emerged over time as they became extremely successful in their fields....with this chant it was used the very first time he came on the field , before he had kicked a ball and therefore It has to at least to be considered that it is based on his physical appearance ..... It's based on his name ending in Oo..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueatheart Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 You think it is malicious then? Now you are being an arse. As far as I am concerned, it isn't racist and isn't malicious. It is the same ironic endearment afforded Joe Root. It's about as daft as David Davis saying he wouldn't hug Diane Abbott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scapegoat Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 It's based on his name ending in Oo..... Correct - or at least that is my interpretation. A name that can be applied to another chant stolen from somewhere else - that's what we do isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magister Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 (edited) name="Scapegoat" post="895389" timestamp="1486978134"]The Roger Palmer chant being used as a (not so) subtle form of racism is one of the most embarrassing times I have following Latics. What must our all time leading scorer think? As for the Ngoo chant being used racially - not sure at the moment. There are a number of chants that create that type of long "oooh" sound across a range of sports, and Ngoo's name fits perfectly with that trend. It's used when he comes on, not an unreasonable time to chant a players name. We have other black players that are not subject to anti-racial chanting (as far as I can tell) And genuinely (as this thread has proven) there are plenty that seem to appreciate what he brings to the team and has adopted a very early cult following (The chants of "Ernie" when Cooksey first arrived spring to mind). So, think the whole Ngoo chant is racist is perhaps a bit of a jump. Yes I agree. I find that an entirely reasonable and intelligent analysis Edited February 13, 2017 by Magister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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