HarryBosch Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 I've not been on here or Twitter since the match but glancing through I haven't seen any criticism of Wheater being done for their equaliser. If that had been Sefil the pissboil would've been off the scale. He doesn't talk or organise anywhere near as much as Clarke did does he? Just seems to do his own thing. He's had a better career and is probably a better player than PC but he's nowhere near as much of a leader from what I've seen. Hope he picks up and has a great season but I'm disappointed so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0ndl1ne Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Huh? It was Iacovitti’s man who scored the equaliser? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 He does organise. I see and hear it all the time. Where do you sit? He’s very impressive imo. IF he made a mistake (I don’t think he did by the way)... so what?... I saw Ronaldo miss a sitter once and I certainly saw Clarke make lots of mistakes. This is lower league football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, b0ndl1ne said: Huh? It was Iacovitti’s man who scored the equaliser? It usually is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: I've not been on here or Twitter since the match but glancing through I haven't seen any criticism of Wheater being done for their equaliser. If that had been Sefil the pissboil would've been off the scale. He doesn't talk or organise anywhere near as much as Clarke did does he? Just seems to do his own thing. He's had a better career and is probably a better player than PC but he's nowhere near as much of a leader from what I've seen. Hope he picks up and has a great season but I'm disappointed so far. You’ll know what disappointment is when he next gets injured...without him we are a disaster! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 He was helping Iacovetti quite a bit yesterday. I don't know who was supposed to be marking their goal scorer at the end, but he ran in onto it. Our defenders were static. Someone should have been blocking his run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted September 15, 2019 Author Share Posted September 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, b0ndl1ne said: Huh? It was Iacovitti’s man who scored the equaliser? Yes. And Wheater was right there as he put it away. Can players - especially better, more experienced players - not bail out their team mates anymore ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted September 15, 2019 Author Share Posted September 15, 2019 14 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: He doesn't talk or organise anywhere near as much 10 minutes ago, kowenicki said: He does organise. Oh god... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: Yes. And Wheater was right there as he put it away. Can players - especially better, more experienced players - not bail out their team mates anymore ? Just now, HarryBosch said: Oh god... And he does talk. Again.. where do you sit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: Yes. And Wheater was right there as he put it away. Can players - especially better, more experienced players - not bail out their team mates anymore ? Oh God... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Lets not lose sight of the fact that Clarke had a far better centre back partner in Edmondson and we actually had some strikers last season taking some of the pressure of the back 4 from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted September 15, 2019 Author Share Posted September 15, 2019 36 minutes ago, kowenicki said: He does organise. 21 minutes ago, kowenicki said: And he does talk. Again.. where do you sit? 40 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: He doesn't talk or organise anywhere near as much as Clarke did does he? Have all these years of feigning cleverness with jargon & buzzspeak rendered smaller, simpler words like "as" and "much" beneath your superior intellect? North Stand near the Chaddy End. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 9 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: Have all these years of feigning cleverness with jargon & buzzspeak rendered smaller, simpler words like "as" and "much" beneath your superior intellect? North Stand near the Chaddy End. Yes... he talks and directs as much. Happy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary1906 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Pretty ridiculous thread this. In no way has Wheater been a disappointment. He’s exactly what we needed after they inexplicably let Clarke go. He’s a leader, a captain, a no nonsense centre half who leads by example, plus he’s already chipped in with a couple of goals. If he makes a couple of mistakes every now and then, so what? He’s still head and shoulders our best defender. We’d look a sorry sight if he wasn’t in the team. Like at Bradford away for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Bet you wish you hadn’t started this now eh Dave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted September 16, 2019 Author Share Posted September 16, 2019 8 hours ago, Gary1906 said: Pretty ridiculous thread this. In no way has Wheater been a disappointment. He’s exactly what we needed after they inexplicably let Clarke go. He’s a leader, a captain, a no nonsense centre half who leads by example, plus he’s already chipped in with a couple of goals. If he makes a couple of mistakes every now and then, so what? He’s still head and shoulders our best defender. We’d look a sorry sight if he wasn’t in the team. Like at Bradford away for example. I agree with all that. I just expected him to be even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted September 16, 2019 Author Share Posted September 16, 2019 Just now, lookersstandandy said: Bet you wish you hadn’t started this now eh Dave? Not at all. Those disagreeing me (everyone) are missing or not reading my points, purposely or otherwise. Always a good sign one is right. Paddy and Eyresy will be along with some moral support soon anyway.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 17 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: Not at all. Those disagreeing me (everyone) are missing or not reading my points, purposely or otherwise. Always a good sign one is right. Paddy and Eyresy will be along with some moral support soon anyway.... I think that there is more to come from David but I also think that he has a strong presence at the heart of our defence. In a way he is being let down by the relative inexperience of the others in the back four. He is vocal as far as I can hear and does direct and help the others at the back, in particular Iacovitti. As soon as the messiah Egert is fit and plays, to coin a phrase, we’ll be reet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latics22 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 2 hours ago, TheBigDog said: I think that there is more to come from David but I also think that he has a strong presence at the heart of our defence. In a way he is being let down by the relative inexperience of the others in the back four. He is vocal as far as I can hear and does direct and help the others at the back, in particular Iacovitti. As soon as the messiah Egert is fit and plays, to coin a phrase, we’ll be reet... David will be learning from the new maldini. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 He's been a breath of fresh air in a stale club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngen Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 He's a good player, its quite clear to see. Agree he was probably at fault for the goal Saturday, but we should not have been in that position and he was largely solid with Iacovitti. Hes also got three 21 and younger players alongside him, so its hardly surprising the defence makes mistakes. When playing 2 holding midfielders at home, we should not be relying on last ditch tackles and bailing out players from our centre backs. Clarke as a leader and player in this league is very difficult to replace, and he had a large amount of games playing alongside (and bailing out) shit players. Wheater is, hopefully, still working this out that he maybe needs to realise the players around him aren't actually much good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 4 hours ago, HarryBosch said: Not at all. Those disagreeing me (everyone) are missing or not reading my points, purposely or otherwise. Always a good sign one is right. Paddy and Eyresy will be along with some moral support soon anyway.... Doesn't that depend on what you were expecting of him though? I was expecting someone who would sure us up enough to keep us up he's only one man, if he was better then someone else would have snapped him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseowl Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 Don't forget, he's one good player in a mediocre defence. When he gets injured (unfortunately, he will) just see how bad we are then! Sadly, Hamer, Lacovitti, Stott et al just don't seem to be up to the standard - which is a little mystifying in such a shit league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluehobbit Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 He wasn't at fault for the equalizer someone turned their back on the Grimsby man running in.... White boots on Lacoviti? He can't be everywhere He does organise we have looked better at the back with him in. Is he as good at it as Clarke? Jury out. Does he have more to organise than Clarke did last season? YES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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