Frankies6 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Monty Burns said: Diff Clarke that, we signed another one a month or so ago.. I know it is Jordan Clarke from scunthorpe , he looked OK against Crewe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 So, is this likely starting XI stronger or weaker than the typical starting XI last season? I'd say weaker as I can't see that many in there would displace their equivalents from last time round. If that's right then that means we are relying on coaching and management to have any realistic hope of an improvement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedtobeWozzer Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 The ever reliable DMaarms Twitter is telling us to expect a new signing and a club statement, possibly today. Hoping it’s somebody good enough to change that starting 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Monty Burns said: Sorry, changed my mind A. Keeper Adams Clarke MaGahey Badan Hart Diarra Whelan Bahamboula DKD Hope Hart and Badan can swap about and cover for each other going forward At an absolute stretch having Hart at centre back and Badan at wing back could work. Badan centrally in a back three in place of Pidge would be such a bad decision that I'm not even sure Mo would make it. Pidge is a fairly bog-standard League Two centre back, Badan is barely League Two standard as a left back, let alone as a centre back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0ndl1ne Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 8 minutes ago, UsedtobeWozzer said: The ever reliable DMaarms Twitter is telling us to expect a new signing and a club statement, possibly today. Hoping it’s somebody good enough to change that starting 11. Has to be another CM to go in alongside Whelan surely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankies6 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 11 minutes ago, UsedtobeWozzer said: The ever reliable DMaarms Twitter is telling us to expect a new signing and a club statement, possibly today. Hoping it’s somebody good enough to change that starting 11. As long as its not Niel Danns on a season long contract... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximus1267 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: So, is this likely starting XI stronger or weaker than the typical starting XI last season? I'd say weaker as I can't see that many in there would displace their equivalents from last time round. If that's right then that means we are relying on coaching and management to have any realistic hope of an improvement Its a toughy because we were so poor at retaining the ball or breaking teams down at home and then throw into that our miserable goals against column its hard to imagine being worse. Weve lost goals in McCelany and brought in Hope who is a grafter who will score a few, DKD could bag a few if he continues to improve and Bahamboula will create problems for defences, if he can chip in with a few more then that would be a decent front 3, and if Dearnley could have a run of games he could also bag a few. Center mid I'm thinking we're weak but losing garrity is no loss, we've lost the lad from Leeds but I think were an experienced head missing in the middle, I have an opinion on how that could be tweaked but it would be slaughtered on here. If the defence & keeper can stay fit then I feel it will be better than last year. And of course the coach and his team will hopefully add something. I think we will be harder to beat but wont score as many. Not great but its what we've got. For me we're an exp midfielder and a maybe a big target man away from being a decent league 2 team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankies6 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Crowngreen said: He can’t run he can’t turn he can’t read a game he can’t kick with his right foot and he isn’t much better with his left. He is excellent at attacking an aerial ball in front of him.. I take it your a big fan of his Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximus1267 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Just now, Crowngreen said: We haven’t even seen the goalkeeper yet ? Ive heard good things about him so i'm going off that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris15Arm Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 8 minutes ago, Crowngreen said: He can’t run he can’t turn he can’t read a game he can’t kick with his right foot and he isn’t much better with his left. He is excellent at attacking an aerial ball in front of him.. What? He cant read the game? Thats one of his best qualities! He wins every header against his man. He is the one clearing most corners. He's scored a few own goals unluckily. But thats because hes read whats going to happen and tried to stop it. Hes a beast. Yes he cant run, and not great woth his long balls. But he's a proper old fashioned CB who bullies strikers and wins his duels and comes out with the ball more often than not. We don't need an all singing dancing super footwork CB. We need someone with pace alongside pierrgianni yes but im happy to have pierrgianni winning the ball and 5 yard pass to someone else like whelan to play with it. Football has gone crazy with this need for CBs to be playmakers. In league two id rather have a pierrgianni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximus1267 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, Chris15Arm said: What? He cant read the game? Thats one of his best qualities! He wins every header against his man. He is the one clearing most corners. He's scored a few own goals unluckily. But thats because hes read whats going to happen and tried to stop it. Hes a beast. Yes he cant run, and not great woth his long balls. But he's a proper old fashioned CB who bullies strikers and wins his duels and comes out with the ball more often than not. We don't need an all singing dancing super footwork CB. We need someone with pace alongside pierrgianni yes but im happy to have pierrgianni winning the ball and 5 yard pass to someone else like whelan to play with it. Football has gone crazy with this need for CBs to be playmakers. In league two id rather have a pierrgianni Its funny how we see different things in our own players. I agree with you tho, I really don't understand the bashing of Pidge. Much bigger issues with the team than him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 13 minutes ago, maximus1267 said: Weve lost goals in McCelany and brought in Hope who is a grafter who will score a few, DKD could bag a few if he continues to improve and Bahamboula will create problems for defences, if he can chip in with a few more then that would be a decent front 3, and if Dearnley could have a run of games he could also bag a few. One in four would be slightly above average for Hope, Bahamboula may well still go and Dearnley may or may not be fit. That redefines thin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximus1267 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Dave_Og said: One in four would be slightly above average for Hope, Bahamboula may well still go and Dearnley may or may not be fit. That redefines thin. As youve just proved just if and buts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Just now, maximus1267 said: As youve just proved just if and buts I'll have a tenner with you that Hope doesn't get double figure league goals if you like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximus1267 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Just now, Dave_Og said: I'll have a tenner with you that Hope doesn't get double figure league goals if you like Why as a fan are you so determined to see a player fail. Dont get it, I said he could score a few, I also said its not great but its what we've got. I'm sure if we signed Harry Kane people would say he's injury prone or getting on. As to the bet, a £10 bet for me needs to return alot more than £10....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 1 minute ago, maximus1267 said: Why as a fan are you so determined to see a player fail. Dont get it, I said he could score a few, I also said its not great but its what we've got. I'm sure if we signed Harry Kane people would say he's injury prone or getting on. As to the bet, a £10 bet for me needs to return alot more than £10....... How do you interpret that as me being determined that he fail? It's just rational. AS he scores round about 1 in 4/5 it's about the right odds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximus1267 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Dave_Og said: How do you interpret that as me being determined that he fail? It's just rational. AS he scores round about 1 in 4/5 it's about the right Perhaps I put that accross wrongly which I apologise for. To want to bet that he doesn't meet your rationale of 10 goals suggest you are pretty certain of the stats. Thats fine. Ian Marshall didn't score many until he played for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Just now, maximus1267 said: Perhaps I put that accross wrongly which I apologise for. To want to bet that he doesn't meet your rationale of 10 goals suggest you are pretty certain of the stats. Thats fine. Ian Marshall didn't score many until he played for us 1 minute ago, maximus1267 said: No need to apologise. I hope he finds a rich goalscoring vein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximus1267 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Just now, Dave_Og said: No need to apologise. I hope he finds a rich goalscoring vein Me too marra..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximus1267 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, Crowngreen said: 81 goals conceded last season. No other team conceded even 70. Since he is our defensive lynch pin apparently I am not sure we do have bigger issues with the team to be honest Have you ever played football, at amateur or semi pro level..... If you have you would look back at your comment and realise how daft it is, surely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 49 minutes ago, Crowngreen said: 81 goals conceded last season. No other team conceded even 70. Since he is our defensive lynch pin apparently I am not sure we do have bigger issues with the team to be honest Under the 1950s Revie system Manchester City conceded 6 and 7 a game. But no one blamed one of the greatest keepers ever seen Bert Trautmann, It's a team game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximus1267 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Just now, Crowngreen said: Team concedes 81 , centre half and captain carries no resposibikty for that.? So its Pidges fault we conceded 81 goals ? What about a defence that were constantly put under pressure by the players in front of them constantly giving the ball away ? What about a midfield thas was powder puff and just walked past by opposition players ? What about a centre half who was partnered with a total rookie who had potential but was not up to league two standard ? What about a manager who's sole aim was to outscore teams and not really have any defensive know how ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 57 minutes ago, the_mighty_bosh said: At an absolute stretch having Hart at centre back and Badan at wing back could work. Badan centrally in a back three in place of Pidge would be such a bad decision that I'm not even sure Mo would make it. Pidge is a fairly bog-standard League Two centre back, Badan is barely League Two standard as a left back, let alone as a centre back! LCB isnt really a CB tho, but l take on board your comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankies6 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, maximus1267 said: So its Pidges fault we conceded 81 goals ? What about a defence that were constantly put under pressure by the players in front of them constantly giving the ball away ? What about a midfield thas was powder puff and just walked past by opposition players ? What about a centre half who was partnered with a total rookie who had potential but was not up to league two standard ? What about a manager who's sole aim was to outscore teams and not really have any defensive know how ? And what a bout our keeper who used to hate crosses and shots low down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximus1267 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Just now, Frankies6 said: And what a bout our keeper who used to hate crosses and shots low down Yeh keepers were poor too..... but it was all Pidges fault. And none of us are saying Pidge is fantastic but he is more than cable with better players around him, and thats the same for alot of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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