The Shezzerection Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 All this talk about the club not going for promotion this season, and steadying the ship for a couple of seasons in the National league will benefit us, what a load of rubbish imo we should be throwing everything we can at getting back to the EFL. What do others think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 42 minutes ago, The Shezzerection said: All this talk about the club not going for promotion this season, and steadying the ship for a couple of seasons in the National league will benefit us, what a load of rubbish imo we should be throwing everything we can at getting back to the EFL. What do others think If we don't get promotion this season, I think the fans should call Frank and the board knobs, Frank and the board should call the fanbase a bunch of knobs and then fold the club and make sure it can never exist again. Promotion or bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 49 minutes ago, The Shezzerection said: All this talk about the club not going for promotion this season, and steadying the ship for a couple of seasons in the National league will benefit us, what a load of rubbish imo we should be throwing everything we can at getting back to the EFL. What do others think Or a season of sorting our shit out then going for promotion next year. Some of us are pragmatists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluehobbit Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 I would love to go up this season but I just can't see it. We have new owners who have already spent a lot of money of buying the club, a completely new team who already look vulnerable and decades of mismanagement and poor decisions to sort it out behind the scenes. We need a tremendous amount of luck to even challenge to go up as far as I'm concerned. For me, the reality is we are down here on merit we haven't got huge money like Wrexham and it's going to take an awful lot of hard work, patience and some luck for us to be promoted. The crowds are good at the minute and we need people to stick with the club rather than looking for an instant fix. City with all the money they had pumped in took a few seasons to turn from a bit of a comedy club into title challengers and beyond. We don't have that resource so it will take time. ..... I'm hoping we can find the magic formula sooner rather than later but i doubt it will be this season. Get some wins on the board do the best we can and sort of the mess the club has become while finishing as high as possible. Probably best we can hope for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Part of the problem is the expectation built up by Frank when the deal was announced, although the aim should be promotion it is probably unrealistic to expect us to bounce back straight away, if we could get in the top half and push for playoffs I'd see that as a successful season and something to build on, given the state of the squad I think we will be lucky to finish top 8 but Rome wasn't built in a day and it looks like it will take us some time to adjust to our surroundings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 We aren't allowed to have any expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobledgersheart Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, deyres42 said: We aren't allowed to have any expectations. Expect away but be a bit realistic, some of our fans sound more entitled than the Royal (spelt correctly in this instance ) family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latics22 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 If they can afford the loss of parachute payments … then that’s ok then. But surely spend to accumulate. Lot more money available in the league above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 11 minutes ago, Bobledgersheart said: Expect away but be a bit realistic, some of our fans sound more entitled than the Royal (spelt correctly in this instance ) family. I got abused for calling our fans entitled once, funny how things turn out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Mikey Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 23 minutes ago, deyres42 said: We aren't allowed to have any expectations. Define "we* Who precisely is not allowing expectations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basilrobbie Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 1 hour ago, The Shezzerection said: All this talk about the club not going for promotion this season, and steadying the ship for a couple of seasons in the National league will benefit us, what a load of rubbish imo we should be throwing everything we can at getting back to the EFL. What do others think It's easy to say this stuff from behind your keyboard. It's a nice soundbite for minimum effort, and football fans are good at them the world over. I think you are playing in one of the hardest leagues there is, and for a variety of reasons you have gone into the season undercooked. August was a big chance to really get some points under your belt and you haven't really done that as yet. It won't get easier from here, and the coming weekend is very important.. Last season Southend fans started the season in a state of high confidence and by Christmas they were looking nervously at the bottom four. As one of those pesky pragmatists, I'd be looking at keeping well clear of trouble and building from there. if your club is anything like mine was, the infrastructure issues will be difficult, time-consuming and expensive, as well as being a colossal distraction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 48 minutes ago, deyres42 said: We aren't allowed to have any expectations. That's correct. And deserved too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 3 hours ago, The Shezzerection said: All this talk about the club not going for promotion this season, and steadying the ship for a couple of seasons in the National league will benefit us, what a load of rubbish imo we should be throwing everything we can at getting back to the EFL. What do others think We've thrown money at it three times in my lifetime. First time we had to be rescued. Second time we ended up in administration, third time we ended up in the National League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Branston Pickle Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 3 hours ago, The Shezzerection said: All this talk about the club not going for promotion this season, and steadying the ship for a couple of seasons in the National league will benefit us, what a load of rubbish imo we should be throwing everything we can at getting back to the EFL. What do others think Throwing 'everything' at promotion weeks after we've been saved from the prospect of administration or worse doesn't seem like a very wise thing to be doing at all. Have we learnt nothing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: We've thrown money at it three times in my lifetime. First time we had to be rescued. Second time we ended up in administration, third time we ended up in the National League. Did we throw money at it last season...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Assuming we are still in the poverty leagues next season the income will be less, fanbase smaller and interest diminished. The season ticket prices in this league suggest an increase will come into ours next season. That will test many financially and if we have finished 15th probably test most fans loyalty. Not sure of all this consolidation talk, i felt with the takeover we had some real momentum and unity. Non latics fans buying tickets and wanting to go to games. It's already started to drift and will continue to do so if results aren't good enough. I do think the board are missing a trick not giving Sheridan a bit more cash to have a go. Nowt daft but enough to get some quality it. You can consolidate all you like but at some point it'll take cash, good amounts, to build a side to get into league 2. Seems odd they've not used the money the fans pumped in after debts were cleared to build a side capable of challenging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: We've thrown money at it three times in my lifetime. First time we had to be rescued. Second time we ended up in administration, third time we ended up in the National League. We threw money last season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Just now, Lee Sinnott said: Did we throw money at it last season...? Quite, AL didn't spend a penny of his own once we left league 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, Guy Branston Pickle said: Throwing 'everything' at promotion weeks after we've been saved from the prospect of administration or worse doesn't seem like a very wise thing to be doing at all. Have we learnt nothing? Just keep all that influx of fans money in the bank and spend the interest on toilet cleaner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Branston Pickle Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, Clifford said: Just keep all that influx of fans money in the bank and spend the interest on toilet cleaner? Nah let's spunk it all away on panicky last minute short term signings instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 15 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: We've thrown money at it three times in my lifetime. First time we had to be rescued. Second time we ended up in administration, third time we ended up in the National League. It's like Socialism though. We've never thrown money at it properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 11 minutes ago, Guy Branston Pickle said: Nah let's spunk it all away on panicky last minute short term signings instead Some of it on better footballers. No one is expecting or wanting all funds spending on players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Branston Pickle Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 12 minutes ago, Clifford said: Some of it on better footballers. No one is expecting or wanting all funds spending on players. So what does "throwing everything at it" mean then? I think we'd all like to see some better players come in. But I also want us to be responsible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlemoor Lad Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Goes without saying that bouncing straight back has to be the aim, more so now we have owner's that actually care and have skin in the game. No point even existing if we don't have that kind of ambition at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 9 minutes ago, Guy Branston Pickle said: So what does "throwing everything at it" mean then? I think we'd all like to see some better players come in. But I also want us to be responsible Ask the person who said it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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