Guy Branston Pickle Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, deyres42 said: You got your results in the second half of last season. The "we finished 12th" trophy is absolutely glistening in our cabinet Edited August 12, 2023 by Guy Branston Pickle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 1 hour ago, LightDN123 said: Oh, and he’s changed his mind from just needing 3 players when he was on the Pod to now saying he wants more players to get the squad to look like how he wants it. Oh this man. He never fails to disappoint. What a helmet. I think he’s signed 16 players since he came to the club that are in this season’s squad and there are only 10 or so left from the squad he inherited, quite a turnover. After initially saying he wanted 5 more in for the start he’s signed 8 and listening to his comments he wants one or two more. If I was Frank I would put a hold on any more recruits until the injured players are back and he’s worked out how to utilise those he’s brought in already. For me there has been no improvement in performances at all and Frank must be beginning to think he’s pouring money down the drain! I think the outcome of the next two home games are crucial and losing them both would surely leave the board with little choice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Guy Branston Pickle said: The "we finished 12th" trophy is absolutely glistening in our cabinet No trophy but the results are there for all to see despite some seeking to pretend they didn't happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 24 minutes ago, LightDN123 said: I would ask if you think his assessment up until the sending off was correct, but you didn’t even go. Let me tell you, every single fan in that stand was shell shocked from about 5 mins in. It never improved, we had a half chance here and there, but Southend absolutely spanked us. For him not to recognise that, is absolutely taking this piss. Said it before but we are on rocky ground if you have to attend a match in order to air an opinion. I wouldn't necessarily agree with his interpretation in this instance but that isn’t really the point I'm making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Branston Pickle Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Just now, deyres42 said: No trophy but the results are there for all to see despite some seeking to pretend they didn't happen. There was an upturn in performances last season, no doubt. When the pressure was off. But people are entitled to have concerns after last weeks performance. It wasn't just a hiccup, it was one of the most pathetic displays I've seen from any Oldham side. A lot of people, myself included, are doubtful he can take us to the next level. With the Norwood signing, automatic promotion should be the aim. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Said it before but we are on rocky ground if you have to attend a match in order to air an opinion. I wouldn't necessarily agree with his interpretation in this instance but that isn’t really the point I'm making. So I have pointed out his incorrect assessment, you have said people will bite back at anything his says, and then you say you don’t agree with his assessment ? - what? So you disagree with yourself ? I don’t care you don’t go to games. I was pointing out that 600+ of us who did, stood in shell shock from the 5th minute in and never felt we were in the game, the atmosphere didn’t change in the 60th minute during the sending off. - To be honest, we had a 5 min spell after the sending off which is the period we looked our best ! Makes his assessment even more strange. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 12 minutes ago, oafc1955 said: I think he’s signed 16 players since he came to the club that are in this season’s squad and there are only 10 or so left from the squad he inherited, quite a turnover. After initially saying he wanted 5 more in for the start he’s signed 8 and listening to his comments he wants one or two more. If I was Frank I would put a hold on any more recruits until the injured players are back and he’s worked out how to utilise those he’s brought in already. For me there has been no improvement in performances at all and Frank must be beginning to think he’s pouring money down the drain! I think the outcome of the next two home games are crucial and losing them both would surely leave the board with little choice! Exactly he’s signed a whole new squad and the performance is the same as Bromley (A). Started this year with 5 at the back despite him saying he only played that formation as he didn’t trust our defence and we needed to be more solid. Literally nothing has changed. Admittedly he signed better quality players thanks to Frank and Co, but in terms of tactics (if we have any) nothings changed and it’s the quality of the better players which dragged him through to scrape results. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, LightDN123 said: So I have pointed out his incorrect assessment, you have said people will bite back at anything his says, and then you say you don’t agree with his assessment ? - what? So you disagree with yourself ? I don’t care you don’t go to games. I was pointing out that 600+ of us who did, stood in shell shock from the 5th minute in and never felt we were in the game, the atmosphere didn’t change in the 60th minute during the sending off. - To be honest, we had a 5 min spell after the sending off which is the period we looked our best ! Makes his assessment even more strange. Incorrect in your opinion, he's entitled to see it differently if he wishes. Anyway that will do for today, I'm going to the match so my opinions will have some merit this week. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Branston Pickle Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, deyres42 said: Incorrect in your opinion, he's entitled to see it differently if he wishes. He's entitled to, doesn't mean he isn't incorrect. I could say dinosaurs live on the moon, just because it's my opinion doesn't make it any less mental. Edited August 12, 2023 by Guy Branston Pickle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 12 minutes ago, Guy Branston Pickle said: There was an upturn in performances last season, no doubt. When the pressure was off. But people are entitled to have concerns after last weeks performance. It wasn't just a hiccup, it was one of the most pathetic displays I've seen from any Oldham side. A lot of people, myself included, are doubtful he can take us to the next level. With the Norwood signing, automatic promotion should be the aim. If the performance had come later in the season then fair enough, it might be cause for alarm. First game of the season, freaky things can happen. One thing is for sure, he can’t afford for there to be many more of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Branston Pickle Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 I want him to succeed by the way, I'm still pissed off about last weeks result and his comments haven't helped. But a couple of positive performances and I'll be behind him. I just can't help having reservations about him at this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 56 minutes ago, Guy Branston Pickle said: He's entitled to, doesn't mean he isn't incorrect. I could say dinosaurs live on the moon, just because it's my opinion doesn't make it any less mental. Off topic a tad, but it's no more mental than the notion that man ever stepped foot on there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 55 minutes ago, deyres42 said: If the performance had come later in the season then fair enough, it might be cause for alarm. First game of the season, freaky things can happen. One thing is for sure, he can’t afford for there to be many more of them. The performances his team consistently put in, added to the bullshit that consistently comes from his mouth, do not make for a good combination... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: The performances his team consistently put in, added to the bullshit that consistently comes from his mouth, do not make for a good combination... A very fair assessment Pat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Tic Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Guy Branston Pickle said: I want him to succeed by the way, I'm still pissed off about last weeks result and his comments haven't helped. But a couple of positive performances and I'll be behind him. I just can't help having reservations about him at this point. I don’t actually dislike him, but I dislike the way we play under him. I just don’t think it’s necessary at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 1 hour ago, deyres42 said: No trophy but the results are there for all to see despite some seeking to pretend they didn't happen. We on about last Saturday here?, it's a new season. We haven't started off on +20 because we won a few dead rubbers at the back end of last season, we're a winning machine in case you haven't heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Branston Pickle Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, True Tic said: I don’t actually dislike him, but I dislike the way we play under him. I just don’t think it’s necessary at all. Yep. Ultimately football is an entertainment sport, we want to enjoy it to a degree. Even when we're winning it's really hard to get behind his brand of football. Especially with the quality of player they've brought in this summer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlemoor Lad Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Guy Branston Pickle said: I want him to succeed by the way, I'm still pissed off about last weeks result and his comments haven't helped. But a couple of positive performances and I'll be behind him. I just can't help having reservations about him at this point. Just how I've felt, Nothing has changed, still stuck in reverse and with better quality players, Even if he had city's first team at his disposal, he'd still fall short, maybe football management isn't his forte. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 2 hours ago, deyres42 said: Said it before but we are on rocky ground if you have to attend a match in order to air an opinion. I wouldn't necessarily agree with his interpretation in this instance but that isn’t really the point I'm making. sometimes one gets a better reading watching on tv also if you watch the official southend highlights and add in Norwoods early chance then it was even on stats until Wills harsh red. but l dont wana watch us get run over like that ever again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Lee Sinnott said: Off topic a tad, but it's no more mental than the notion that man ever stepped foot on there... be back soon aswell. that will be mental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Opinions on games are infinitely more valuable when they come from people who were there . The modern notion that everyone's opinion is equally valid and valuable is utter, utter bollocks. Most conspiracy theories are even bigger bollocks. There were some seriously weird results last weekend. Hands up who thought Wrexham and Notts County would both concede five and Barnsley would score seven having lost a striker that most of their fans wanted to keep. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonboy Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 "David Unsworth Football Genius" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 Sack him, there is no coming back from this 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Branston Pickle Posted August 12, 2023 Share Posted August 12, 2023 11 hours ago, Guy Branston Pickle said: I want him to succeed by the way, I'm still pissed off about last weeks result and his comments haven't helped. But a couple of positive performances and I'll be behind him. I just can't help having reservations about him at this point. Stand by this. That was great today, despite his interview yesterday he's clearly learnt lessons from last week. That's all I ask. That was a shape that suited the players we have, and players who knew their jobs. A million miles from last week. Long may it continue! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 I quite like Unsworth the man. I also quite liked the side he put out yesterday and how they entertained me. Same Tuesday and next Saturday then the mood music will be completely different. The downside will be less to read on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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