disjointed Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 50 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: Whilst I'm not for booing him Nuttall has been gash there is absolutely no disputing that, to say he's our best striker is frankly bollocks. I wouldn't boo him or sarcastically cheer his substitution, but I expect more from him, perhaps I need to lower my expectation levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, disjointed said: What does that even mean. 4 minutes ago, welshgaz said: Where are you drawing this opinion from? Based on what? He gave a slight glimpse on Tuesday where he held the ball, got his head up and played a lovely ball out of to Kitch. From what I have seen, which is most his games. He can hold the ball up, presses from the front, run the channels and can finish if given the opportunity. He is also good at the defending of set pieces. Reid and Fondop can do parts of the above and better than Nuttall. But overall I think he’s the better player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 1 hour ago, LightDN123 said: From what I have seen, which is most his games. He can hold the ball up, presses from the front, run the channels and can finish if given the opportunity. He is also good at the defending of set pieces. Reid and Fondop can do parts of the above and better than Nuttall. But overall I think he’s the better player. Thanks for clearing that up, I don't think he holds the ball up well, it seems to bounce off him, drops too deep(maybe Unsworths instructions). Runs the channels? I would say Reid does that of the 2, I will give you the defending of set pieces, infact I would go so far as to say he is better in our box than the oppositions. All about opinions eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Mikey Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 2 hours ago, LightDN123 said: Nuttall is our best striker and since coming into the side our results have picked up, that’s no coincidence in my opinion. Why as a set of fans we have to see players run around like headless chickens to be satisfied I’ll never know. I got some new lucky pants and then our results started to pick up. Causation and correlation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 22 minutes ago, disjointed said: Thanks for clearing that up, I don't think he holds the ball up well, it seems to bounce off him, drops too deep(maybe Unsworths instructions). Runs the channels? I would say Reid does that of the 2, I will give you the defending of set pieces, infact I would go so far as to say he is better in our box than the oppositions. All about opinions eh. When playing 442 he is the striker that sits in to fill the gap between the strikers and midfield, at his detriment probably but important for the shape of the team. I want him to score goals, he needs to score more than he has been doing, but he contributes a lot in other areas and it’s not like we are struggling to score goals as a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 30 minutes ago, LightDN123 said: When playing 442 he is the striker that sits in to fill the gap between the strikers and midfield, at his detriment probably but important for the shape of the team. That isn't really his job though is it, if we want someone to fill that role we need a number 10 not a slow off the mark centre forward, this suggestion that he is a target man or maybe a battering ram is just not true, his close control is painful the ball never sticks it just bounces off him, he can't win a duel with a centre half (plenty of examples of that Tuesday night when their No 5 literally had him in his pocket) he pinned him down all night and he hardly won anything, Fondop showed more aggression in a 5 minute spell and has the nous at this level to be effective, as for running the channels that's Reid's strength on the shoulder of the last man, Nuttall ended up four yards up goal side on Tuesday night 30 yards out and didn't have enough about him to get the shot away and that's why I think he needs a rest and hopefully his confidence will come back. It's admirable that Unsworth is sticking with him, he's backing his man and fair play to him for that but I personally think he's lucky to have that and hopefully at some stage he'll repay the managers faith, for me he's still developing, I'm not trying to patronise him I just think he's more of a project than the finished article and should go on and play at an higher level but he does need to work on certain aspects of his game for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 3 hours ago, JoeP said: I think it's more to do with having a more settled team and the improvement of players like Rooney and Hogan. I haven't been overly impressed by Nuttall, but cheering when he was subbed is pretty embarrassing. But why have players like Rooney and Hogan improved? They're not kids learning the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Greek Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 12 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: But why have players like Rooney and Hogan improved? They're not kids learning the game. Rooney has improved because he is being played in his natural position of centre midfield. Hogan has only improved in the last game! Nuttall is just bobbins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemel latic Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Magic Mikey said: I got some new lucky pants and then our results started to pick up. Causation and correlation. Please keep wearing them, for a superstitious friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 7 hours ago, yarddog73 said: That isn't really his job though is it, if we want someone to fill that role we need a number 10 not a slow off the mark centre forward, this suggestion that he is a target man or maybe a battering ram is just not true, his close control is painful the ball never sticks it just bounces off him, he can't win a duel with a centre half (plenty of examples of that Tuesday night when their No 5 literally had him in his pocket) he pinned him down all night and he hardly won anything, Fondop showed more aggression in a 5 minute spell and has the nous at this level to be effective, as for running the channels that's Reid's strength on the shoulder of the last man, Nuttall ended up four yards up goal side on Tuesday night 30 yards out and didn't have enough about him to get the shot away and that's why I think he needs a rest and hopefully his confidence will come back. It's admirable that Unsworth is sticking with him, he's backing his man and fair play to him for that but I personally think he's lucky to have that and hopefully at some stage he'll repay the managers faith, for me he's still developing, I'm not trying to patronise him I just think he's more of a project than the finished article and should go on and play at an higher level but he does need to work on certain aspects of his game for sure. Entitled to your opinions. As long as we are winning, I don’t care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 9 hours ago, Dave_Og said: But why have players like Rooney and Hogan improved? They're not kids learning the game. Hit a bit of form? The penny's finally dropped with Big Dave about how to get those two to perform? Who knows.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 9 hours ago, JoeP said: Hit a bit of form? The penny's finally dropped with Big Dave about how to get those two to perform? Who knows.. Maybe Rooney wasn't match fit when most on here wrote him off... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 3 hours ago, mcfluff1985 said: Maybe Rooney wasn't match fit when most on here wrote him off... Maybe you need to stop making stuff up about ‘what most on here say’ - it’s just generalised nonsense. He was really poor- but was asked to firstly play out wide, then even more strangely in front of the back hour. He was shit- because he was out of position. He ‘s played centre mid since his return to the side and been great recently. Similar thing happened with Sheron, he did ok at centre half, but he was poor playing as a right back, he then goes to his natural position in midfield and has really steady since moving there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 5 hours ago, League one forever said: Maybe you need to stop making stuff up about ‘what most on here say’ - it’s just generalised nonsense. He was really poor- but was asked to firstly play out wide, then even more strangely in front of the back hour. He was shit- because he was out of position. He ‘s played centre mid since his return to the side and been great recently. Similar thing happened with Sheron, he did ok at centre half, but he was poor playing as a right back, he then goes to his natural position in midfield and has really steady since moving there. Loads on here wrote him off. Am I wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 11 hours ago, League one forever said: Maybe you need to stop making stuff up about ‘what most on here say’ - it’s just generalised nonsense. He was really poor- but was asked to firstly play out wide, then even more strangely in front of the back hour. He was shit- because he was out of position. He ‘s played centre mid since his return to the side and been great recently. Similar thing happened with Sheron, he did ok at centre half, but he was poor playing as a right back, he then goes to his natural position in midfield and has really steady since moving there. Most said exactly this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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