Pidge Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 15 minutes ago, ceskylatic said: I agree with you. But until we bring in whatโs required in midfield, i.e. 2 athletic wingers and a ball playing central midfielder to dominate opposition, weโll be a counter-attacking team giving teams most of the possession. And Until we bring in some pace up front and a midfielder who can pass forward and find them, we canโt be a counter-attacking team. OMG we are fecked! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boroblue Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Change the name of this thread from v Gateshead to v Real Madrid cos we made them look like Real Madrid. From back to front they were popping the ball between themselves. 1-0 was a travesty at HT as was evidenced by the 2nd half. Fair play to Mellon, I wouldnโt expect to throw anyone under the 409 post match in his interview, but Iโm hopeful that he does behind closed doors. Gateshead werenโt packed with superstars, but to a man they were far better than anyone in a blue shirt today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronoafc Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 What a team they are, Iโd love for us to go and dominate teams with slick passing football like they did/do.ย ย Number 11 Wearne who came off the bench for them is some player. Heโs got more goal contributions than any player in the league. We should be throwing any money we have at them to sign him.ย ย Us - absolute dogshit. 2nd half was a disgrace. McGahey is absolutely garbage. Lundstram doesnโt look right, he looks injured. Sheron I actually dont mind but he cant pass and you know, you need that in midfield. No good wingers what so ever. No right back. CBโs are shite bar Hobson. The Squads a mess ย Mellon has a hell of a job on his hands and barring an absolute catastrophe (say, bottom of the league 10 games into next season) Iโd be giving him 4 windows (I know we donโt technically have windows in the NL but Jan 24 Summer 24 Jan 25 Summer 25) to sort this shit out.ย ย I expected Gateshead to be good and thought there is a good chance they may beat us, but that today was frightening and simply unacceptable 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 2 hours ago, yarddog73 said: Sorry but that's just delusion, granted in a better team we've got a player but he was gash today. Scored a goal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronoafc Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 P.S lets not make this thread about Norwood. Jesus heโs scored 8 goals in his last 10 games in a side that create absolutely fuck all. He is far from the problem and is basically the reason weโre not fighting relegation right now. ย His all round game and body language isnโt great at times, who cares!? Heโs paid a fortune to score goals and he scores goals in a side that is completely useless 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 31 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said: I'll bite. What did Hudson do wrong? He let's over 2 goals a game in and we have a goalie on the bench who I'd say was our best player last season. ย He can't kick - his distribution is piss poor, again today Fondop wants it two on two he slows it down and then puts it his way when they've had time to set, if you think the keeper isn't part of our defensive problems then fine but I find it absolutely mystifying that Mellon hasn't played Norman for one single minute since arriving and even brought in another keeper in Langley. ย I know there's not supposed to be anything between the two and Norman does struggle to sort his feet out from shots from distance but Hudson still has plenty to work on and I don't ever remember him winning the MOM as Norman did on several occasions. ย Why hasn't he played yet if everyone's had a chance?, seems strange seeing as we've leaked 23 goals in Mellons 11 matches. Halifax have let 23 in all season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 12 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: He let's over 2 goals a game in and we have a goalie on the bench who I'd say was our best player last season. ย He can't kick - his distribution is piss poor, again today Fondop wants it two on two he slows it down and then puts it his way when they've had time to set, if you think the keeper isn't part of our defensive problems then fine but I find it absolutely mystifying that Mellon hasn't played Norman for one single minute since arriving and even brought in another keeper in Langley. ย I know there's not supposed to be anything between the two and Norman does struggle to sort his feet out from shots from distance but Hudson still has plenty to work on and I don't ever remember him winning the MOM as Norman did on several occasions. ย Why hasn't he played yet if everyone's had a chance?, seems strange seeing as we've leaked 23 goals in Mellons 11 matches. Halifax have let 23 in all season. So not at fault for either goal. Soundย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Tic Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 32 minutes ago, aaronoafc said: What a team they are, Iโd love for us to go and dominate teams with slick passing football like they did/do.ย ย Number 11 Wearne who came off the bench for them is some player. Heโs got more goal contributions than any player in the league. We should be throwing any money we have at them to sign him.ย ย Us - absolute dogshit. 2nd half was a disgrace. McGahey is absolutely garbage. Lundstram doesnโt look right, he looks injured. Sheron I actually dont mind but he cant pass and you know, you need that in midfield. No good wingers what so ever. No right back. CBโs are shite bar Hobson. The Squads a mess ย Mellon has a hell of a job on his hands and barring an absolute catastrophe (say, bottom of the league 10 games into next season) Iโd be giving him 4 windows (I know we donโt technically have windows in the NL but Jan 24 Summer 24 Jan 25 Summer 25) to sort this shit out.ย ย I expected Gateshead to be good and thought there is a good chance they may beat us, but that today was frightening and simply unacceptable I think we helped to make them look good and thatโs not sour grapes. Stay in their faces and theโ ย slickโ passing becomes more of a challenge for them. Instead we just stand and watch them play their best game.ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worcester Owl Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 55 minutes ago, BP1960 said: ย But he still plays them when he's had plenty of time to bring in midfielders, wingers and a right back on loan. He seems to play 3 DCs because he's got to appease them. One of Raglan or Hogan needs to be dropped. ย Plenty of time??!! Are you being serious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistingMyMellon Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 26 minutes ago, aaronoafc said: Heโs paid a fortune to score goals and he scores goals in a side that is completely useless ย I'd be looking to off load next month and spend the money saved on the obvious areas of the team that need strengthening as we should have done in the summer.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sloshed Joe Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 Are Gardner, Ward & Dickenson injured coz surely theyโd improve our midfield. Iโd be tempted to give Shelton a go at right wing back as well.ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick26 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 15 minutes ago, True Tic said: I think we helped to make them look good and thatโs not sour grapes. Stay in their faces and theโ ย slickโ passing becomes more of a challenge for them. Instead we just stand and watch them play their best game.ย Yep, Halifax pressed them on TNT the other week and they were forever going back to the keeper and were well beaten. We also made Ebbsfleet look like world beaters! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 28 minutes ago, Worcester Owl said: Plenty of time??!! Are you being serious? Of course he is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Worcester Owl said: Plenty of time??!! Are you being serious? ย Yes, he's watched us before he got the job I assume so should have known what was needed immediately and done something about it. Instead he brought in another striker when we have 5 on the books and complains about his defenders. Edited December 23, 2023 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 5 hours ago, Dave_Og said: Can analyse that to death but the simple fact is that they were a much better sideย This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Tic Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 21 minutes ago, mick26 said: Yep, Halifax pressed them on TNT the other week and they were forever going back to the keeper and were well beaten. We also made Ebbsfleet look like world beaters! Thatโs another bad habit we seem to have. Poor tactics today with poor players showing too much respect for a decent but not great team and Iโm really puzzled about MM bringing the young lad on at such a crucial time.ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistingMyMellon Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 14 minutes ago, BP1960 said: ย Yes, he's watched us before he got the job I assume so should have known what was needed immediately and done something about it. Instead he brought in another striker when we have 5 on the books and complains about his defenders. ย What's the answer then? Sack him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Summerdeep Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 First real indications here that the Mellon regime could end in tears, and sooner rather than later, but I do hope he'll have the resolution to get to grips with the situation and see things through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceskylatic Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, Summerdeep said: First real indications here that the Mellon regime could end in tears, and sooner rather than later, but I do hope he'll have the resolution to get to grips with the situation and see things through. Specifically, what are those indicators?ย Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Summerdeep Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 I get the impression that a good few posters on here are beginning to lose faith in his judgment and maybe his overall managerial capabilities. If that's representative of the fan base as a whole, it's not great news. ย Also, the obvious persistence of dismal home performances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Summerdeep said: First real indications here that the Mellon regime could end in tears, and sooner rather than later, but I do hope he'll have the resolution to get to grips with the situation and see things through. ย Not particularly aimed at you, but... ย Unsworth given a budget, resources, came with red flags and was clearly shit from the start = Needs time to turn this around. ย Mellon given no budget, expected to juggle Unsworth's shit, 5 promotions and has shown signs he can get a tune out of the players in spite of that = it's going to end in tears sooner rather than later. ย Unless we start hurtling towards the bottom, Mellon can do what he wants in terms of subs and team selection to help him work out what he needs and who he can get something out of moving forward.ย I think we do need to right this season off.ย Even if we get in the play-offs, I wouldn't fancy our chances at all to be consistent enough to win them. ย He's been here the shortest time out of anyone at the club, yet is the one we're looking at first?ย Not for me, as it stands... ย Edited December 23, 2023 by JoeP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Summerdeep Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 I'm just saying that's the way some indicators are pointing (in my opinion). Hope I made it clear that I want him to stick at it, which surely implies that I think he has what it takes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceskylatic Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, Summerdeep said: I get the impression that a good few posters on here are beginning to lose faith in his judgment and maybe his overall managerial capabilities. If that's representative of the fan base as a whole, it's not great news. ย Also, the obvious persistence of dismal home performances. If thatโs the case, that would say more about the posters than Mellonโs capabilities, in my opinion. ย 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 40 minutes ago, Summerdeep said: I get the impression that a good few posters on here are beginning to lose faith in his judgment and maybe his overall managerial capabilities. If that's representative of the fan base as a whole, it's not great news. ย Also, the obvious persistence of dismal home performances. A good few posters on here are absolute Scopes. So I wouldn't worry 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted December 23, 2023 Share Posted December 23, 2023 I'd just like to put it on record before it starts getting spread as fact that I don't hold the same view as Summerdeep, I actually think we are fortunate to have Mellon and Brabin and you won't hear nothing along the lines of Mellon out from me. ย I do think he probably thought he had more to work with and in his interviews the disappointment and realisation of how poor we are is beginning to come over. As I've said many a time you can't polish a turd and probably half of this squad he will see as surplus, a quarter he'd probably like to keep and the other quarter are probably playing for their futures. ย We've been left in a state and it will take a monumental effort to turn this around, all the play off talk is fanciful, we are so close but in real terms so far away. 26 points off Chesterfield having played a game more tells us all we need to know about the current squad - it's piss poor. ย No rightback, No right wingback, No left sided centrehalf despite having about six centrehalfs on the books, No cover for Kitch, No midfielder capable of putting their foot on the ball, No midfield full stop,ย No widemen who can give you more than a decent 15 minutes, No identity, No leaders, No desire, No heart.ย ย Bench today had a keeper and four forwards, there literally is so much to address it's actually scary. I sat in my seat today in shock at just how far away we are and this repair job is unfortunately going to take some time. ย Nothing to do with Mellon who is now getting desperate as evidenced by chucking Kofi on today in the second half, he's running out of options and probably planning for next season already if he's happy to see it out. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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