GlossopLatic Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 13 minutes ago, spanishfly said: Oh Lord yes I know. I was just talking at a local level, Glossop. I no longer have any political allegiances, I see the lot of them as self-serving greedy bar stewards. No I wouldn't put much faith in politicians either although in fairness to the current council they have invested in a new pitch for both ourselves and the rugby club to use. Might not seem alot but it's more than we've got previously considering the amount of times ambitious plans for new stadiums bit the dust. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackey Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 On 2/9/2024 at 11:15 PM, spanishfly said: Heavily involved in the whole idea. In my opinion, he's very "Manchester centric" to the detriment of the satellite towns. This is just another example. The Manchester megalomaniacs generally want places like Oldham, Stockport, Bury etc to be seen as simply suburbs of the metropolis (think London). London still has incredibly distinct local areas, vibes, accents, cultures, etc. etc. and all of those are vastly aided by the centralised and heavily-regulated public transport system. Some of London's most distinct local cultures are within the very heart of it, equally I know people who live 30 minutes from central London on the train and have been there a handful of times in their lives - they are in their 60's. If you don't like Burnham for any reason, crack on. But the idea that centralised and regulated transport is bad for the burb's couldn't be more wrong. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackey Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 3 minutes ago, Ackey said: London still has incredibly distinct local areas, vibes, accents, cultures, etc. etc. and all of those are vastly aided by the centralised and heavily-regulated public transport system. Some of London's most distinct local cultures are within the very heart of it, equally I know people who live 30 minutes from central London on the train and have been there a handful of times in their lives - they are in their 60's. If you don't like Burnham for any reason, crack on. But the idea that centralised and regulated transport is bad for the burb's couldn't be more wrong. Oh, and you may find that people from London say that when abroad or what-not. But in London itself I've rarely found anyone who wouldn't say "south east", "east end", "Hammersmith", etc.etc. Similar to how I would say "Manchester" to someone on holiday, but "Oldham" to someone actually from the area. I guess what I'm saying is, worry less about uniting with our neighbours (including Manchester) to build something bigger and stronger, and more about those that have it but won't share it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishfly Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 9 minutes ago, Ackey said: I guess what I'm saying is, worry less about uniting with our neighbours (including Manchester) to build something bigger and stronger, and more about those that have it but won't share it. Each to their own Ackey but I have no desire whatsoever to unite with Manchester. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackey Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, spanishfly said: Each to their own Ackey but I have no desire whatsoever to unite with Manchester. And that right there is how they get you. Your enemy isn't your neighbour with the 99% same life experience as you but a slight difference in accent or the preference for a different football team. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishfly Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 (edited) 23 hours ago, Ackey said: And that right there is how they get you. Your enemy isn't your neighbour with the 99% same life experience as you but a slight difference in accent or the preference for a different football team. Honestly, I am capable of forming my own opinions. You present the case for the "common man". Hear, hear I say. Meanwhile, the policies of the Manchester Megalomaniacs, by and large, has resulted in the obliteration of huge swathes of social housing. Why? Because it's all about money. You can pay £1500 per month to rent a relatively small apartment or town house in Ancoats nowadays and pay £6/£7 for a pint of bitter! But wait... at the same time we'll make loud, vacuous gestures about ending homelessness (i.e. whilst bulldozing people's former homes). Our developer friends can gentrify the place, make their millions... and disappear. Thereafter, the satellite towns can absorb all the displaced people, with the socialists preaching their "we need more affordable homes mantra". No we don't, you just didn't need to demolish 80% of Beswick, Bradford, Ancoats, Miles Platting etc. in the first place and turn them into yuppy land! To bounce it gently back your way.... "and that right there is how they get you." Anyhow, here's hoping for 3 points tonight. Edited February 14 by spanishfly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackey Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 15 hours ago, spanishfly said: To bounce it gently back your way.... "and that right there is how they get you." Wouldn't argue for one second about any of that - completely agree. 15 hours ago, spanishfly said: Anyhow, here's hoping for 3 points tonight. Never in doubt! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishfly Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 (edited) 3 hours ago, Ackey said: Wouldn't argue for one second about any of that - completely agree. Never in doubt! Indeed lol. I even hugged a manc at the final whistle! Edited February 14 by spanishfly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
another fan Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Not saying that City are doing in any favours now but they at one time in the past kept the Club alive in the pre " Three Amigos Era" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latics22 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 28 minutes ago, another fan said: Not saying that City are doing in any favours now but they at one time in the past kept the Club alive in the pre " Three Amigos Era" What did they do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjk2008 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Far from me to defend City as I don’t like them (they’re turning more and more into why we despise(d) United with each passing day), I’m struggling to criticise them for this. If it makes it easier for fans to get to games, without Oldham blue tinted glasses on it’s a positive move. I also don’t think it will affect our attendances all that much either. With City’s growing popularity, tickets will be harder to get as the years go by. Away days are difficult to get tickets for for a number of my big city supporting mates, and it won’t get any easier. I’m also of the opinion that lower league football - League One downwards - is becoming more attractive to younger people. More affordable, more attainable tickets, and there’s more media and social media coverage of lower league football than there ever has been. The only way we continue increasing our support base is winning games consistently, showing ambition and - at times - playing decent football. It doesn’t have to be Pep ball does it? Speaking to my City mates, games are largely just a procession now. How boring is it to rock up to a game and wondering whether you’ll win 4 or 5 nil. Some have even welcomed potential relegation to the lower leagues. Bring back an element of the unknown on a match day. I mean fuck me, I honestly cannot remember the last time I watched Latics genuinely thinking we’d win. I’ve made predictions pre match that I fancy us, but that’s mainly optimism and blind faith as opposed to a genuine belief we will win. And when we do win, it makes it all the more enjoyable irrespective of whether we played well or not. And as for City and these 115 charges, it’s nothing like the Everton case as they admitted their breach, City are denying it. Im also absolutely convinced they’ll get away Scot free too. Abu Dhabi has too much involvement in UK business. Their fingers are in so many pies and if they threatened to remove all promise investment in the country and Manchester specifically, the government would shit a brick. (They’re definitely guilty BTW). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 9 hours ago, sjk2008 said: How boring is it to rock up to a game and wondering whether you’ll win 4 or 5 nil. Thats the kind of boredom I could with at Latics! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted February 15 Author Share Posted February 15 11 hours ago, sjk2008 said: Far from me to defend City as I don’t like them (they’re turning more and more into why we despise(d) United with each passing day), I’m struggling to criticise them for this. If it makes it easier for fans to get to games, without Oldham blue tinted glasses on it’s a positive move. I also don’t think it will affect our attendances all that much either. With City’s growing popularity, tickets will be harder to get as the years go by. Away days are difficult to get tickets for for a number of my big city supporting mates, and it won’t get any easier. I’m also of the opinion that lower league football - League One downwards - is becoming more attractive to younger people. More affordable, more attainable tickets, and there’s more media and social media coverage of lower league football than there ever has been. The only way we continue increasing our support base is winning games consistently, showing ambition and - at times - playing decent football. It doesn’t have to be Pep ball does it? Speaking to my City mates, games are largely just a procession now. How boring is it to rock up to a game and wondering whether you’ll win 4 or 5 nil. Some have even welcomed potential relegation to the lower leagues. Bring back an element of the unknown on a match day. I mean fuck me, I honestly cannot remember the last time I watched Latics genuinely thinking we’d win. I’ve made predictions pre match that I fancy us, but that’s mainly optimism and blind faith as opposed to a genuine belief we will win. And when we do win, it makes it all the more enjoyable irrespective of whether we played well or not. And as for City and these 115 charges, it’s nothing like the Everton case as they admitted their breach, City are denying it. Im also absolutely convinced they’ll get away Scot free too. Abu Dhabi has too much involvement in UK business. Their fingers are in so many pies and if they threatened to remove all promise investment in the country and Manchester specifically, the government would shit a brick. (They’re definitely guilty BTW). It depends what our ambitions are. If we're only intending to be "a lower league" football club, then yeah let them roll into Oldham and whisk the fans off to watch top class football. I'm not saying we'll ever match City in the future, or even not be a "lower league" team, but I'd be disappointed if we never had that ambition. What's the point if not? There's a bit of a contradiction in a few posts saying "winning football" is what will affect gates at Boundary Park, yet City are now offering an easier opportunity for the people of Oldham to watch "winning football" somewhere other than Boundary Park! I also don't understand the it's a "positive for the football fan" point of view. Don't care - if it's potentially detrimental to Latics I honestly couldn't give a shit how good it is for the football tourist wanting to watch a load of billionaires down the road. City are doing what they need to do for global domination - fine. We're never going to be able to do it. But I do think we should stand up to them, protect our own little enclave and say we want to preserve our Borough as best we can in case we reach a higher level in the future. If we want to be bigger and better in the future, letting your rich neighbours come into your patch and take potential future fans away I think is a bad thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishfly Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 12 hours ago, latics22 said: What did they do? They chipped in over £10k when some Latics fans went bucket shaking at Eastlands. Tbf their fans were very supportive of us generally. From memory also had a pre-season friendly where they brought about 10,000 fans! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 1 hour ago, JoeP said: It depends what our ambitions are. If we're only intending to be "a lower league" football club, then yeah let them roll into Oldham and whisk the fans off to watch top class football. I'm not saying we'll ever match City in the future, or even not be a "lower league" team, but I'd be disappointed if we never had that ambition. What's the point if not? There's a bit of a contradiction in a few posts saying "winning football" is what will affect gates at Boundary Park, yet City are now offering an easier opportunity for the people of Oldham to watch "winning football" somewhere other than Boundary Park! I also don't understand the it's a "positive for the football fan" point of view. Don't care - if it's potentially detrimental to Latics I honestly couldn't give a shit how good it is for the football tourist wanting to watch a load of billionaires down the road. City are doing what they need to do for global domination - fine. We're never going to be able to do it. But I do think we should stand up to them, protect our own little enclave and say we want to preserve our Borough as best we can in case we reach a higher level in the future. If we want to be bigger and better in the future, letting your rich neighbours come into your patch and take potential future fans away I think is a bad thing. But we're not 'letting them'. They're just doing it and there's no reason (beyond ethics - ethics/football... Ha!) why they shouldn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted February 15 Author Share Posted February 15 1 hour ago, Dave_Og said: But we're not 'letting them'. They're just doing it and there's no reason (beyond ethics - ethics/football... Ha!) why they shouldn't I'm sure the council could've said no if they saw the potential for it to be detrimental to their own football club... Some bizarre - even pro - reactions to it on here. Maybe Noel Gallagher was right - we are all City fans!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 2 hours ago, spanishfly said: They chipped in over £10k when some Latics fans went bucket shaking at Eastlands. Tbf their fans were very supportive of us generally. From memory also had a pre-season friendly where they brought about 10,000 fans! Think that was when George Weah was a world class star. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 26 minutes ago, BP1960 said: Think that was when George Weah was a world class star. I might as well reply. Weah played 11 games in total for City in 2000. Presumably out bucket shaking heyday was when Moore departed in 2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ritchie Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Frank should put a boat on from Salford Quays. Row everyone to Latics 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ritchie Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 On 2/8/2024 at 8:49 PM, oafcmetty said: Didn't Charlton do the same to Gillingham? Levels. https://www.kentonline.co.uk/kent/sport/scally-attacks-grossly-underhan-a15472/ Didn't realise Scally was a bloke until I opened the link. Was hoping it was going to be Scally's attacking the buses. Which I was going to suggest for these City buses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 10 hours ago, spanishfly said: They chipped in over £10k when some Latics fans went bucket shaking at Eastlands. Tbf their fans were very supportive of us generally. From memory also had a pre-season friendly where they brought about 10,000 fans! Still a collective set of knobheads though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 8 hours ago, Dave_Og said: I might as well reply. Weah played 11 games in total for City in 2000. Presumably out bucket shaking heyday was when Moore departed in 2003 Wrong. Weah marked our record top goalscorer ever, Neil Pointon, out of the game. Pointon never had a touch. Apart from the hat trick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts2 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 20 hours ago, spanishfly said: They chipped in over £10k when some Latics fans went bucket shaking at Eastlands. Tbf their fans were very supportive of us generally. From memory also had a pre-season friendly where they brought about 10,000 fans! Iirc they refused their share of the gate receipts from the friendly to help us out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackey Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 On 2/13/2024 at 11:19 AM, Ackey said: ...all of those are vastly aided by the centralised and heavily-regulated public transport system. A lovely video about the vital community services possible when joined up transport with non-profit regulations exists. The fear of a metropolis somehow stealing a community's identify further undermined. (Not that I'm a transit nerd or anything... honest...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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