Worcester Owl Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 7 hours ago, Gaz_Oafc said: Not defending them, but how many of those City fans with a ticket for the Etihad would have come to BP if there was no bus? Agreed. I despise Citeh for many reasons, but I can’t get worked up about this - and anyway it is a trial. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts2 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 How much of it is to do with the buses coming under one control again with the Bee network making the whole thing feasable ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickyrickyholden Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Cant fault this one bit. Happy that football fans are getting looked after (albeit in a small way) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishfly Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 (edited) Am I missing something here? You can currently dive on many regular bus services to City's ground (well nearby and a short walk) from Oldham for £2 - and £2 to get back. This scheme is charging £6 return from the town centre. Is it just the added convenience of actually landing at the ground? Seems a typical Burnham masterplan to me. Edited February 9 by spanishfly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 1 hour ago, spanishfly said: Am I missing something here? You can currently dive on many regular bus services to City's ground (well nearby and a short walk) from Oldham for £2 - and £2 to get back. This scheme is charging £6 return from the town centre. Is it just the added convenience of actually landing at the ground? Seems a typical Burnham masterplan to me. What's it got to do with Burnham? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamHughes Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Maybe it’s a precursor to their relegation to the national league for financial irregularities and they’ll need the whole of greater Manchester to fill the ground once the glory hunters have pissed off! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 19 minutes ago, Lags said: What's it got to do with Burnham? Got to blame someone. To me reversing de-regulation of the buses works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 18 minutes ago, GrahamHughes said: Maybe it’s a precursor to their relegation to the national league for financial irregularities and they’ll need the whole of greater Manchester to fill the ground once the glory hunters have pissed off! Unfortunately despite the 115 charges against I can see them getting away with the whole thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 47 minutes ago, GlossopLatic said: Unfortunately despite the 115 charges against I can see them getting away with the whole thing. And why not?. As far as I can see the Arab's have done right by City and locality. For me it's just the big clubs looking after themselves. Just wished Sir Jim really wanted a local boy project instead of Chelsea or ManUre. There again had he done so the big guns would have shot us down season one in the Premier league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanishfly Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 2 hours ago, Lags said: What's it got to do with Burnham? Heavily involved in the whole idea. In my opinion, he's very "Manchester centric" to the detriment of the satellite towns. This is just another example. The Manchester megalomaniacs generally want places like Oldham, Stockport, Bury etc to be seen as simply suburbs of the metropolis (think London). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 9 hours ago, Lags said: And why not?. As far as I can see the Arab's have done right by City and locality. For me it's just the big clubs looking after themselves. Just wished Sir Jim really wanted a local boy project instead of Chelsea or ManUre. There again had he done so the big guns would have shot us down season one in the Premier league. But he's a local boy to Manchester, not Oldham. He may come from Failsworth, although he didn't grow up there, but Failsworth wasn't in the Oldham borough then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 (edited) 10 hours ago, Lags said: And why not?. As far as I can see the Arab's have done right by City and locality. For me it's just the big clubs looking after themselves. Just wished Sir Jim really wanted a local boy project instead of Chelsea or ManUre. There again had he done so the big guns would have shot us down season one in the Premier league. If a rich man wants to invest in a football club then they should ne able too but their has to be some controls in place. Controls which Everton have been punished for but so far Man City haven't, one rule for 1 and 1 rule for the rest. Every finance department og every organisation in the country has to abide by some sort of legislation. If I prevented the auditors doing their job once I'd be dismissed nevermind it happening 115 times. Edited February 10 by GlossopLatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whittles left foot Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 2 hours ago, GlossopLatic said: Controls which Everton have been punished for but so far Man City haven't, one rule for 1 and 1 rule for the rest. Not really-City case still being investigated and they deny any wrong doing. Everton actually admitted some of their failings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted February 10 Author Share Posted February 10 16 hours ago, trickyrickyholden said: Cant fault this one bit. Happy that football fans are getting looked after (albeit in a small way) Don't know why the bus can't swing by Boundary Park on the way to the ground and see if they can make it even easier for people to pick City over Latics... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 I’d like to see a regulator look into catchment areas and see how they can be protected in some way. Difficult of course as they will vary so much in size. But the big, oil rich clubs should be controlled in some way to try and limit the amount of hoovering up of fans and young players that might otherwise go into their local club system. I don’t think it’s right just to say we live in a capitalist society. You don’t choose the club you support on that basis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 2 hours ago, whittles left foot said: Not really-City case still being investigated and they deny any wrong doing. Everton actually admitted some of their failings. Well technically yes but my original point was that they appear to be trying to kick the can far enough down the road so that it gets dropped and nothing happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Tic Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 16 hours ago, GrahamHughes said: Maybe it’s a precursor to their relegation to the national league for financial irregularities and they’ll need the whole of greater Manchester to fill the ground once the glory hunters have pissed off! Do they ever fill it anyway? I can see a load of blue seats again today unless its my eyes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 (edited) 1 hour ago, JoeP said: Don't know why the bus can't swing by Boundary Park on the way to the ground and see if they can make it even easier for people to pick City over Latics... If Latics are at home on the same day and at the same time then more can pick Latics over city Edited February 10 by TheBigDog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whittles left foot Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 2 minutes ago, True Tic said: Do they ever fill it anyway? I can see a load of blue seats again today unless its my eyes Haven't they got planning to extend by another 8000 seats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Tic Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 7 minutes ago, whittles left foot said: Haven't they got planning to extend by another 8000 seats? Oh right , I’ve no idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 50 minutes ago, nzlatic said: I don’t think it’s right just to say we live in a capitalist society. You don’t choose the club you support on that basis. I'd suggest the vast majority do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 2 minutes ago, oafcmetty said: I'd suggest the vast majority do. Ha yeah you’re probably right. I was thinking idealistically about football fans that are loyal and actually care. I appreciate that’s not the type of fan the people at the top of the game generally give a shit about. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 1 hour ago, nzlatic said: I’d like to see a regulator look into catchment areas and see how they can be protected in some way. Difficult of course as they will vary so much in size. But the big, oil rich clubs should be controlled in some way to try and limit the amount of hoovering up of fans and young players that might otherwise go into their local club system. I don’t think it’s right just to say we live in a capitalist society. You don’t choose the club you support on that basis. You're going to ban people from supporting whatever club they want to?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 4 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: You're going to ban people from supporting whatever club they want to?? Yes. I want each club to be allocated an equal number of supporters and everyone is given their club at birth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 In all seriousness, I was more thinking about limiting what marketing clubs can do outside of their catchment area and that sort of thing. Or where they are allowed to have academies and maybe a limit on numbers. Ive not put much thought into this by the way. My white paper isn’t ready for publishing just yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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