JoeP Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 How shit is this? No real need for it. If City fans from Oldham want to go to the Ethiad, there's loads of ways they can get there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Didn't Charlton do the same to Gillingham? Levels. https://www.kentonline.co.uk/kent/sport/scally-attacks-grossly-underhan-a15472/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 How about special buses from selected points in Oldham straight to outside ground? There's a bus stop just before the turning to B&Q. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts2 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 this used to be the norm in the 80s the 183/4 around 12 from town would go onto OT when they were at home as would the 82 when citeah were at home same at BP in the 70s would be a line of busses up sheepfoot lane to shaw rochdal and ashton etc all the drivers would be stood in the main stand paddock for the last 15 mins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted February 9 Author Share Posted February 9 28 minutes ago, peanuts2 said: this used to be the norm in the 80s the 183/4 around 12 from town would go onto OT when they were at home as would the 82 when citeah were at home same at BP in the 70s would be a line of busses up sheepfoot lane to shaw rochdal and ashton etc all the drivers would be stood in the main stand paddock for the last 15 mins Not the same. This new venture benefits City and City only as far as I can tell.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 1 hour ago, JoeP said: Not the same. This new venture benefits City and City only as far as I can tell.. Which is why City have done it. Clever marketing from them again... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev1970 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 No surprise at all trying to hoover up even more fans that could have come to boundary park.Building another extension to there ground they cannot fill it now so they have to do something to get round FFP... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 7 minutes ago, kev1970 said: No surprise at all trying to hoover up even more fans that could have come to boundary park.Building another extension to there ground they cannot fill it now so they have to do something to get round FFP... They sell out every week, don't they...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Banks, Zone 3 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 2 hours ago, peanuts2 said: this used to be the norm in the 80s the 183/4 around 12 from town would go onto OT when they were at home as would the 82 when citeah were at home same at BP in the 70s would be a line of busses up sheepfoot lane to shaw rochdal and ashton etc all the drivers would be stood in the main stand paddock for the last 15 mins When I were a kid in the Chaddy, the sight of the bus drivers appearing in the main stand paddock was a welcome sign that there wasn't long left to hang on. Or, more frequently, a worrying reminder that there wasn't long left to get something from the game . I used to get the 420 match special back to Failsworth, it was regularly ambushed at Fetherstall Road roundabout by visiting fans being escorted back to Werneth station... I soon learned to sit upstairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted February 9 Author Share Posted February 9 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lee Sinnott said: Which is why City have done it. Clever marketing from them again... Suppose you can have clever marketing if money's no object! And lay on buses... The whole thing stinks of kicking the little guy, when they don't need to... Edited February 9 by JoeP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: They sell out every week, don't they...? I think they do and also have a sell on option for fans if they cant make the match. That said, the last night match live on Sky there were lots of empty seats. Can't remember if that was a cup game though, Edited February 9 by Lags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz_Oafc Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Not defending them, but how many of those City fans with a ticket for the Etihad would have come to BP if there was no bus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted February 9 Author Share Posted February 9 9 minutes ago, Gaz_Oafc said: Not defending them, but how many of those City fans with a ticket for the Etihad would have come to BP if there was no bus? None, probably. But if it becomes a permanent thing, it's just another unnecessary factor that might encourage future generations of Oldham to sack Latics off in favour of the cheaty Billionaires down the road. It certainly doesn't help us out... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 3 hours ago, Lags said: the last night match live on Sky there were lots of empty seats. ST holders don’t always turn up, just like at BP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 (edited) 36 minutes ago, oafc1955 said: ST holders don’t always turn up, just like at BP. The do run a sell on scheme for ST holders if they can't make the match Edited February 9 by Lags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Something we have to remember is that City, or United for that matter rarely play at home on Saturday at 3pm. They play 19 league games the majority of which get spread across the weekend due to TV so its not like people are getting up on a Saturday and making a direct choice between City and Oldham it's pretty rare that we will both play on Saturday at 3pm. It's an area where we can potentially hold an advantage on as we kick off at 3pm Saturday which for match going football fans is the most preferable time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsEddie Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 6 minutes ago, GlossopLatic said: Something we have to remember is that City, or United for that matter rarely play at home on Saturday at 3pm. They play 19 league games the majority of which get spread across the weekend due to TV so its not like people are getting up on a Saturday and making a direct choice between City and Oldham it's pretty rare that we will both play on Saturday at 3pm. It's an area where we can potentially hold an advantage on as we kick off at 3pm Saturday which for match going football fans is the most preferable time. The average football fan only has so much money and so would have to make the choice between one or the other. They may have chosen to go to BP over Citeh because of the cost of travel, now that choice has been made easier to trek to Manchester. You have to think that its not only us its affecting but essentially every club in Greater Manchester. Whichever way you spin it, it only serves to help city to the detriment of everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsEddie Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 3 hours ago, Gaz_Oafc said: Not defending them, but how many of those City fans with a ticket for the Etihad would have come to BP if there was no bus? For those already wanting to go to Citeh they have the means and willingness to do it already. Its the wavering fans who could potentially become Latics/Dale/Alty/Macc/Stockport etc. fans that it effects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Have latics not in the past offered the Manchester clubs ST holders in for a £5?. No one can complain about a business trying to gain more income. Latics will just have to try harder to retain and encourage new supporters. Granted no matter what buses city put on the pull surely is the superstars and football on view. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsEddie Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 1 minute ago, Lags said: Have latics not in the past offered the Manchester clubs ST holders in for a £5?. No one can complain about a business trying to gain more income. Latics will just have to try harder to retain and encourage new supporters. Granted no matter what buses city put on the pull surely is the superstars and football on view. Of course city have the right to gain more income. Its the public funded ferrying of potential fans away from clubs who need the revenue more thats my issue. It would cost a hell of a lot more than £4 per person to get to the Etihad if City put on the busses themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 18 minutes ago, LaticsEddie said: The average football fan only has so much money and so would have to make the choice between one or the other. They may have chosen to go to BP over Citeh because of the cost of travel, now that choice has been made easier to trek to Manchester. You have to think that its not only us its affecting but essentially every club in Greater Manchester. Whichever way you spin it, it only serves to help city to the detriment of everyone else. Yet you have to remember that here we are in the National League at from a football foodchain point òf view at our lowest point in our history and Man City are in the greatest era in their history and we are getting better attendances than prior to the Abhu Dhabi takeover of Man City in 2008 when we were in league 1 challenging for promotion to the championship. The 2 Manchester clubs are always going to be there and always going to a bigger draw than us from a purely footballing point of view but it doesn't mean we can't attract another generation of fans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 52 minutes ago, Lags said: The do run a sell on scheme for ST holders if they can't make the match We could do that too but there wouldn’t be much point!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted February 9 Author Share Posted February 9 41 minutes ago, Lags said: Have latics not in the past offered the Manchester clubs ST holders in for a £5?. No one can complain about a business trying to gain more income. Latics will just have to try harder to retain and encourage new supporters. Granted no matter what buses city put on the pull surely is the superstars and football on view. I think, in this instance, we can complain about a business trying to gain more income. They don't need it. We do. What benefit to football is an impossibly rich club getting richer and us potentially missing out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsEddie Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 13 minutes ago, GlossopLatic said: Yet you have to remember that here we are in the National League at from a football foodchain point òf view at our lowest point in our history and Man City are in the greatest era in their history and we are getting better attendances than prior to the Abhu Dhabi takeover of Man City in 2008 when we were in league 1 challenging for promotion to the championship. The 2 Manchester clubs are always going to be there and always going to a bigger draw than us from a purely footballing point of view but it doesn't mean we can't attract another generation of fans. Of course I dont think it will erode our or other clubs fanbases completely, but there will be a tangible impact. How many fans are born by them going to a game on a whim or their dads taking them only to get hooked. Having the public funded buses transport potential fans that clubs like ours need to survive away to line the pockets of billionaires only damages us and others like us. Instead, why not introduce a scheme aimed at providing match day busses for all clubs to and from their town centre? or a Match day ticket that is a set price to travel to any towns football ground on the network from anywhere they wany for a cut price, provided you show a ticket? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 54 minutes ago, JoeP said: I think, in this instance, we can complain about a business trying to gain more income. They don't need it. We do. What benefit to football is an impossibly rich club getting richer and us potentially missing out? Totally understand your feelings on this Joe.....its just how the cookie crumbles. We live in a capitalist society 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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