philliggi Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Are the club really that out of touch with fans they need to do this? I would have thought it's blatantly obvious what the fans want in order for attendances to improve. Fair play to them for attempting to address this issue but I for one don't believe any of the issues fans will raise will be addressed. It's predictable that the issues that will be raised will be -Cost of admission -Product on the pitch -The lack of investment from both the owners and outside the club -lack of ambition from the board The board in the past have raised again and again the attempts to improve match day experience but for me this will be way down the list when the results of this survey are in. Maybe it's just me being negative but it's hard not to be these days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 If anyone involved in collating the answers reads this - I meant to add "none of these reasons would matter if we had a winning, entertaining team giving us a glimmer of hope we might get promoted" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueatheart Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Not sure how it is relevent in anyway to the clubs main income stream, season ticket holders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Fill it in folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philliggi Posted October 24, 2016 Author Share Posted October 24, 2016 Not sure how it is relevent in anyway to the clubs main income stream, season ticket holders. It doesn't need to be at this moment in time. Us mugs have already paid our money and that particular stream of income won't be effected until next may. It's short term thinking once again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Can we have an OWTB survey? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 (edited) ignore me Edited October 24, 2016 by oafcmetty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Haven't we already done this relativley recently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfatjoe1 Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 It doesn't need to be at this moment in time. Us mugs have already paid our money and that particular stream of income won't be effected until next may. It's short term thinking once again Still, it's a good opportunity to tell them the football is very boring/:censored: and has been for a while, and that's why people aren't going. Plus, you can tell them that what we really need is long term investment and stability. Oh, and the most sheltered stand in the ground is no longer available. They wanted my opinion, and they've got it. You should all do the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 It is purely a vehicle for obtaining info for marketing purposes. Any comments will be ignored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 The only thing they could realistically address at this point is the extortionate £24 pay on the day fee and maybe stoke up fans for a few games to create an atmosphere. It seems fairly obvious why fans have walked, and though they reckon it might appease supporters to give them the appearance of proactivity, it does make them look even more out of touch to even ask. Nevertheless, it probably is worth filling in if only to give them no excuses... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 It is purely a vehicle for obtaining info for marketing purposes. Any comments will be ignored. Are you 100% sure any comments will be ignored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Are you 100% sure any comments will be ignored. Point taken, not 100% sure but I will be 99.9% certain when I get my emailed invite for peer to peer lending to finance the top floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Point taken, not 100% sure but I will be 99.9% certain when I get my emailed invite for peer to peer lending to finance the top floor. If you are in the market for lending at reasonable rates let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorvik_latic Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I honestly think they would get a chunk of people back if they provided somewhere for them to smoke like at many other grounds. It wasn't very well written - some questions should have allowed more than 1 answer. Should have provided a link too rather than just embedding it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinevillawill Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Is there any research to suggest charging, say, £15 a match would generate more income than £24? It goes without saying you'd get more through the gates. But are people more inclined to spend more money in the ground if they don't feel ripped off at the turnstiles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philliggi Posted October 24, 2016 Author Share Posted October 24, 2016 It's very basic maths from me here but: 1500 x 15 quid is 22500 1000 x 24 quid is 24000 This is of course omitting season tickets We simply wouldn't get the numbers to make dropping the price worthwhile. Not while we are as :censored: as we are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 (edited) Is there any research to suggest charging, say, £15 a match would generate more income than £24? It goes without saying you'd get more through the gates. But are people more inclined to spend more money in the ground if they don't feel ripped off at the turnstiles? Im not sure it's the spend in the stadium that's the problem if we drop the ticket prices by 40% the attendances would rise but not by 40% so they wouldn't do it. They did do some research at Goodison Park regarding this home fans spend on average £2.11 at the bars and kiosks while away fans spend over £3 basically because home fans are more likely to spend money in their local and head to the game at 2:45 whereas away fans are more likely to get there early abd spend money in the concourse, plus away fans are more likely to be on the piss. That said I filled it in and said £24 is too expensive. Edited October 24, 2016 by GlossopLatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I honestly think they would get a chunk of people back if they provided somewhere for them to smoke like at many other grounds. I'd wager at least half of the smokers who stopped going because they couldn't smoke will have stopped smoking by now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 It's very basic maths from me here but: 1500 x 15 quid is 22500 1000 x 24 quid is 24000 This is of course omitting season tickets We simply wouldn't get the numbers to make dropping the price worthwhile. Not while we are as :censored: as we are If I was running a football club I can't imagine it would be difficult to establish what your optimal pricing structure was. Even if it meant getting an outside consultant in to work it out... The current mishmash certainly isn't it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry1203 Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 It's very basic maths from me here but: 1500 x 15 quid is 22500 1000 x 24 quid is 24000 This is of course omitting season tickets We simply wouldn't get the numbers to make dropping the price worthwhile. Not while we are as :censored: as we are 1500 X £16 is £24000. Personally, I think £16 is about right and would have thought it would attract more than an extra 500 fans back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 As I said at the time the season ticket offer was a massive own goal and only really benefitted 90 percent of people who would of renewed at the normal price, it did nothing to entice lapsed fans back which is what's required, it's great to reward loyalty but any offer needs to be aimed at bringing fresh faces through the turnstiles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 1500 X £16 is £24000. Personally, I think £16 is about right and would have thought it would attract more than an extra 500 fans back. Tuesday / Saturday bogof was an effective price of £10 (in advance) but there weren't 500 extra fans. Over the years many offers have been run but have never resulted in extra revenue overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry1203 Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Tuesday / Saturday bogof was an effective price of £10 (in advance) but there weren't 500 extra fans. Over the years many offers have been run but have never resulted in extra revenue overall. Cold Tuesday night games won't attract anybody. To get that offer you had to go Tuesday. If you're sat at home on a Saturday morning, thinking about whether or not you want to go to the game, £24 would put you off straight away. Knowing that it's £16 and you can also get a pint before the game, all for £20 in total might make your decision to go. It needs to be £16 every game. When they do offers as a one off, we generally play crap. It's £24 next time they go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 As I said at the time the season ticket offer was a massive own goal and only really benefitted 90 percent of people who would of renewed at the normal price, it did nothing to entice lapsed fans back which is what's required, it's great to reward loyalty but any offer needs to be aimed at bringing fresh faces through the turnstiles. It was done purely for cash flow purposes. There was no loyalty factor in the decision. There is only 1 way to increase income on the gate-win (and win well.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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