Lukers1 Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Would you welcome them, personally I would welcome them with open arms, would be a welcome boost in the coffers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Away at Montrose for them, after they have served their prison sentences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beag_teeets Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Yeah I would love it. But I think they should have to start in league two at least. Same level they play at now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusoe Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Never. Why should they get to pick and choose which country and league they play in? And if anyone thinks this is a good idea whilst also complaining about the influence of money and TV coverage they need their head examined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 If Rangers want to come to England they should start outside the league, like every other new club has had to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Their scores won't get read out until 5 past 5 on a Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsleftfoot Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 A boost to the coffers for one season and then they would be promoted. Who would they replace also, us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobOAFC Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 No. They can start at the very bottom if they wanna join the English leagues. Why should a team that has earned its right to be here be punished because Rangers didn't handle their finances well and want to join English leagues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 They can feck off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 I don't want the Old Firm anywhere near English football. Wouldn't mind the rest of the Scots joining though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusoe Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 I like that idea. Everyone except the Old Firm can join. We'll just add a few divisions and mix it up. Then the Old Firm can have their exclusive TV deals and "big games" to their hearts' content and leave the rest of us alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_ragg1984 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Would you welcome them, personally I would welcome them with open arms, would be a welcome boost in the coffers. It wouldn't be that big a boost though would it? If they bring 4600 away fans (which isn't guaranteed) and they were all adults (which they wouldn't be) it would be 4600 x £20, which is £92,000 (minus a hefty police bill). If they got promoted at the first attempt, then it isn't a huge boost at all really. If they didn't get promoted at the first go, would they keep filling the away end? I don't think they would. So basically, no, I don't think English (league one) clubs should/would welcome them in for a season or two of slightly increased gate receipts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusoe Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Aye. There's been more than enough whoring of principles for money in football in the last twenty five years. It may be naive to hope it could be reversed, but at least let's not wish for more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsslatic Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Hearts, Aberdeen and Dundee United have all said they will vote against reinstatement. If another two of the seven left (assuming Rangers vote for reinstatement!) vote against then they'll be down to Division Three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Hearts, Aberdeen and Dundee United have all said they will vote against reinstatement. If another two of the seven left (assuming Rangers vote for reinstatement!) vote against then they'll be down to Division Three. I believe Motherwell are also likely to vote against. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 As George Formby would say, "It's turned out nice again." Aberdeen plan to vote against a Rangers 'newco' being admitted to the Scottish Premier League, bringing the number of clubs in opposition to three. Dundee United and Hearts went public with their views on Thursday. And the Dons have told BBC Scotland that maintaining the integrity of the competition is behind their decision. Charles Green's consortium, which bought Rangers' assets last week, needs the support of seven rival clubs when the SPL vote on the issue. Other clubs have yet to go public with their intentions. Should Green's group not get the required 8-4 vote in their favour for top flight football, they would have to apply to fill the vacancy that would be created by a team being promoted from the Scottish Football League. An Aberdeen spokesman told BBC Scotland: "The consequences of not voting no would be overwhelming from a supporters' perspective. "There is now an avalanche in terms of fans' feeling here." However, the Pittodrie club has not made an official announcement and chairman Stewart Milne said they had yet to reach a final decision. "This is a critical decision which will have major implications for all clubs and the future of Scottish football," said Milne. "The views of our fans and the issue of sporting integrity will clearly be a major influencing factor in our decision-making." Hearts owner Vladimir Romanov said "the football mafia represented by Rangers' former owners" should not gain entry. And United say they "cannot vote the newco into the SPL". Rangers: in or out? The company which had run Rangers until 14 June 2012 will shortly be liquidated A new company (newco) has bought Rangers' assets, including Ibrox Stadium The newco wants to replace the old company in the Scottish Premier League An 8-to-4 majority of SPL member clubs, including Rangers, is required for the newco to be admitted If 5 or more clubs vote no, Rangers will need to apply to be admitted to Scottish Football League Division Three Tannadice chairman Stephen Thompson met fans' representatives after being inundated with correspondence telling him supporters would not renew season tickets if he voted a Rangers newco into the top flight. Current sales have dropped by around 2,600 on the same period last year. Following the meeting, a United spokesman said: "The club's position on how we will vote was substantiated by the viewpoint of the various supporters groups. "The board of directors of Dundee United are unequivocal in the belief that a form of sporting punishment must form part of the reasoning behind any decision made and, therefore, cannot vote the newco into the SPL. "General sporting integrity and, more importantly, the integrity of Scottish football must also play a significant part in the decision making process. "It is our belief that any form of sporting punishment must be unambiguous in the message it displays. "The board of directors will act in the best interest of Dundee United and our supporters and Scottish football on this matter." Earlier, in a lengthy statement on the Hearts website, Romanov expressed "deepest condolences'" to Rangers supporters "who have been lied to for so many years". "It had to happen sooner or later," he said. "Victories were achieved not by sporting merits, but through slander, conspiracies amongst players and their poaching via third parties, unfair pressuring of referees, who in themselves are as valuable to the fabric of football as the football stars themselves. "All of this brought hollow victories and destroyed football. "There is a saying about digging a grave for someone: you get it for yourself. Romanov believes the relaunched Rangers must start again from the bottom of the leagues "Without these people football will become cleaner and stronger. "Supporters deserved a new beginning and have to accept the fact that their club has to start from the lower league, keeping order in the SPL and without creating unfair competition with other clubs." Motherwell will ballot supporters on how the Fir Park club should vote on Rangers' application, other clubs will also consult fans while Kilmarnock have expressed concern about the financial implications of an SPL without the Ibrox side. Rangers Football Club plc entered administration in February over unpaid tax. Revenue and Customs' vote against a company voluntary arrangement proposal prompted the transfer of assets to Green's group and their attempts to replace the old Rangers in the SPL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsPete Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 All quiet at Celtic Park! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsslatic Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 All quiet at Celtic Park! I reckon they'll vote for Rangers. Without them the league will become even less competitive, the coefficient will drop and they'll have to battle their way through a load of qualifying rounds to make the Champions League. I cannot see what benefit Celtic would get for Rangers to be relegated, apart from a bit of banter and three easy titles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Financially, all these sides will be worse off. Except for the one that gets the Chumps League slot instead of Rangers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsslatic Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 More so for Celtic than for the others. The rest will still be as competitive as they are with each other but with lesser quality football. Their fans/owners may take that as the price they pay for taking a stand and not letting them 'get away with it'. Celtic have by far the most to lose, even with an effective guarantee of Champions League (qualifying rounds) football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldhamSheridan Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 But the coefficient will drop anyway as they can't take part for three years. A gauranteed entry to the Chumpions League for the next three years, they'd have to be mentalists not to vote them down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 To save itself from any more ridicule, their leagues need to restructure and rebrand itself. I dunno, have a draft and start all over? Two leagues of 24? Anything must be better than the absolute joke it has become. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorrro Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Just end it completely. Won't be missed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 I reckon they'll vote for Rangers. Without them the league will become even less competitive, the coefficient will drop and they'll have to battle their way through a load of qualifying rounds to make the Champions League. I cannot see what benefit Celtic would get for Rangers to be relegated, apart from a bit of banter and three easy titles. But what price can you put on laughter? Lots, and lots, and lots of laughter. Lots of it. Laughter. Note that every other club feel the same way, this is not a sectarian issue, it's about Rangers being evil. Alex Thompson, C4's Chief Correspondent, has been trying to get some answers as to what had really gone on. Very good reading, link to his latest http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thomsons-view/bin-succulent-lamb-humble-pie-rangers/1975 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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