Wardie Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 "League Two club, playing in League One..."Hmmm. http://www.oldham-chronicle.co.uk/news-features/10/oldham-athletic-news/85231/hands-tied-over-big-money-transfers-corney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageTheBeast Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 So what are the likes of crawley and Stevenage conference teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c.hill12 Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 He's not really wrong is he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 "League Two club, playing in League One..." Hmmm. http://www.oldham-chronicle.co.uk/news-features/10/oldham-athletic-news/85231/hands-tied-over-big-money-transfers-corney “If you look at our crowds, we have an amazing hard core there, but people have to wake up and realise that our support is at League Two level. We keep ourselves in League One artificially and it is a dangerous game to play.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjk2008 Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 So what are the likes of crawley and Stevenage conference teams I presume u missed the part when Corney stayed "it's not just us"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 (edited) How many fans would it take for us to be League 1 size? Or is your real size determined solely by the backer your club has? Basically, how do you measure the realistic level of a club? Edited March 27, 2014 by NewBlue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 It'll be interesting to see just how much a fully operational new stand would make us year-on-year. I'd imagine we'd still make a loss year-on-year but I wonder what chunk it would take out of the losses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 I do have sympathy for him but tarky was contracted to us and despite what his agent says or wants we held the cards, he went on the cheap (375k) and if buisness had to be done it shouldnt disrupt our season, there was interest in him from other clubs and more money may of been on the table this summer, its as if the first bid of any size has to be accepted. One more thing crowds will come back if the results improve, away days show the level of support we have and id say next season we need to give the manager a squad of 25 that is settled and isnt going to dismantled mid season even if we have a player others are sniffing around rotherham preston and the like havent sold there best players and in a division where the margins are small we have to try and keep a squad together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobOAFC Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 No coincidence that he's said this now considering we'll be announcing ST prices for next season soon as we know what division we'll be in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 How many fans would it take for us to be League 1 size? Or is your real size determined solely by the backer your club has? Basically, how do you measure the realistic level of a club? We got similar crowds when I started watching us in what it now the Championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 If Tarky stays and we go down his value drops, If Tarky Stays and we survive then he has less time on his contract and his value drops. Ask yourself this after being stung previously with Chris Porter and possibly Chris Taylor and the fact im sure he already turned down bids for Tarky......... If it was your money and your business would you have kept him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 He's not really wrong is he? I think he is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardie Posted March 27, 2014 Author Share Posted March 27, 2014 “If you look at our crowds, we have an amazing hard core there, but people have to wake up and realise that our support is at League Two level. We keep ourselves in League One artificially and it is a dangerous game to play.” I know, I read it and is he also saying that financially, Latics are a League Two club? "He also said the money-making FA Cup runs in recent years only served to reduce losses: “Realistically we’re a League Two club playing in League One,” added Corney." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 He's not a diplomat but he's right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 I think I prefer it when he doesn't say things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIKI1234 Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Re Baxter, he implied that the player and the agent held all the cards. thats not true. Baxter have 2 years to run on his contract. We choose to sell, I unerstand why we sell but to make out its all in the players and agents hands is simply not true. Same with Tarky but he had less time to run on his contact, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 I think I prefer it when he doesn't say things. I blame whoever commented on not having heard from him a couple of weeks ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancy lad Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Of course, a lot of what he says makes perfect sense. However my main frustration with Corney is that none of it is ever the fault of him or the other 2. Yes they bailed us out of the :censored: and make no bones, we would have folded......however knock down a stand and constantly promise the ground to be rebuilt and keep taking the promise away (not all in the hands of them, but other's have managed it... Brighton, Shrewsbury, Rotherham, Morecambe to name but a few). Then give us several years in a 3 sided :censored: hole, while selling the best talent for next to nowt??? Okay, I can except the loss of the likes of Baxter for such a paltry fee because of the circumstances. The sale of price for Tarky is just undefendable though? I mean Brentford for that price? Sorry Simon, I don't want you to sell us down the river but if you own a football team then you need to back it financially from time to time or the customers will get fed up. You continue to tell us you will walk away and give it to the fans but nobody wants that because it will fold. If you are serious about finding a buyer like you have always promised, then you need to start asking less for the land and the club and we can move on. Stop blaming the fans all the time and take some ownership for bad decisions you and your pals made and back us or sell us. I never thought I would see the day when little Rotherham were getting three times as many fans as us through the door. And before anyone has a go, I am still a season ticket holder who attends every home match (and several away) and pay what I can into Playershare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIZZO83 Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Piss poor management has got us here! Corney out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancy lad Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Piss poor management has got us here! Corney out I wouldn't go that far but they have made a number of very bad decisions, which he or they have never accepted. My frustration is that it is always the fans! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 (edited) Corney and his mates failure to deliver this and then the numerous failed development options b,c,d and then finally the current tuck shop offering is the reason our future is that of a League Two side. sigh Edited March 27, 2014 by oafc0000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 I wouldn't go that far but they have made a number of very bad decisions, which he or they have never accepted. My frustration is that it is always the fans! Out of curiosity what was our average crowds before they came in with the promise of better things ? If it was less than what we get now then fair do's if not then they have failed us, whichever way you look at it the clubs support or lack of it boils down to lack of investment and false promises, many wont have this because of the circumstances they took us over from but the reality is a lot of what they promised was all wind and piss with no real sign of improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 If we are still losing money who is giving us the money ? The banks ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 (edited) Out of curiosity what was our average crowds before they came in with the promise of better things ? If it was less than what we get now then fair do's if not then they have failed us, whichever way you look at it the clubs support or lack of it boils down to lack of investment and false promises, many wont have this because of the circumstances they took us over from but the reality is a lot of what they promised was all wind and piss with no real sign of improvement. http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn.htm Go here... Select England from the left hand side... and then league clubs from the top.... and then Oldham Athletic... The current average is the lowest in our history. EDIT: Oh 1969 was worse... 3,862 So the current is the second worse season in history... Edited March 27, 2014 by oafc0000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIZZO83 Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 I have had enough of this guy now. We haven't been a league 2 or bottom division club in how long?? Not in my life time so there is only 1 person to blame and that's you mr Corney! You blame everyone but yourself! Agents players managers but in the last 10 years there is 1 common thing....YOU Don't you dare tell me that I should be grateful for watching league 1 football when we should be in league 2 Just :censored: off! If we are going to be in league 2 fine just don't stick around to give me more :censored: that we should be in the conference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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