rudemedic Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Matt Chambers is now describing the medical as "thorough". http://www.oldham-chronicle.co.uk/news-features/10/oldham-athletic-news/86606/revolving-doors-at-boundary-park Ah is it wrong that I felt a small sense of satisfaction as a result of that. Awaits the inevitable Italian Suppository from one of the usual suspects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 I'd like to see him tried in an attacking midfield role - strong on the ball, can pass, can go past a man, can shoot....... ...Good in the air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slystallone Posted June 30, 2014 Share Posted June 30, 2014 Isn't LJ's style functional sly? It ain't exciting. Truly hope we're more positive this season, particulary at home. It was a season of halves wasn't it? 1st we saw some pretty decent football played, and whilst we weren't getting the results, I for one was entertained & enjoyed what i saw. 2nd half of the season, the players and tactics changed, and we played some pretty dull stuff. But it saw us get the results needed to stay up and climb the league. But i didnt enjoy it and wasnt at all entertained in the slightest. Home and away games were actually pretty :censored:e. But it served us as a means to an end and we stayed in L1. I hope he's learned, and can strike a balance between the dull but results driven 2nd half of the season added to the flair and entertainment of the 1st half. He's a young manager though is LJ, and i dobt think you can pin him down to a specific style just yet. Cotterill on the other hand is a seasoned manager, who i argue you can do that to. And he is a functional style of manager. Gets sides organised and solid, with rigid tactics and a core of players. As i say, functional... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_ktf Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 It was a season of halves wasn't it? 1st we saw some pretty decent football played, and whilst we weren't getting the results, I for one was entertained & enjoyed what i saw. 2nd half of the season, the players and tactics changed, and we played some pretty dull stuff. But it saw us get the results needed to stay up and climb the league. But i didnt enjoy it and wasnt at all entertained in the slightest. Home and away games were actually pretty :censored:e. But it served us as a means to an end and we stayed in L1. I hope he's learned, and can strike a balance between the dull but results driven 2nd half of the season added to the flair and entertainment of the 1st half. He's a young manager though is LJ, and i dobt think you can pin him down to a specific style just yet. Cotterill on the other hand is a seasoned manager, who i argue you can do that to. And he is a functional style of manager. Gets sides organised and solid, with rigid tactics and a core of players. As i say, functional... Id agree with a lot of that; but I'll wager it already has become his style. Similar to Cotterill. Which of the two halves of last season was more successful points wise? I could be wrong, but I don't think we've signed anyone under 6ft in pre season. To me, he wants to pick up where he left off. Solid, organised, look to bully teams. I'm sure LJ would say he wants to attack an be positive, but privately I think realises we were a soft touch at the start of last year. As you say it's a balancing act. Do we try an entertain an finish bottom 8. Or make us hard to beat ( an poor to watch) an finish top half? We haven't got the budget IMO for style an top half. Hope I'm wrong, an he can find that balance; but I see a lot of the last ten games being served up this year. ( which if we finish top 10, won't be bad a thing) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parigby Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Replicate the form of the last nine games over a season, and you get to 86 points ! If he does go down the hard to beat route, you can kind of see why - horrible to watch but effective results wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 It was a season of halves wasn't it? 1st we saw some pretty decent football played, and whilst we weren't getting the results, I for one was entertained & enjoyed what i saw. 2nd half of the season, the players and tactics changed, and we played some pretty dull stuff. But it saw us get the results needed to stay up and climb the league. But i didnt enjoy it and wasnt at all entertained in the slightest. Home and away games were actually pretty :censored:e. But it served us as a means to an end and we stayed in L1. I hope he's learned, and can strike a balance between the dull but results driven 2nd half of the season added to the flair and entertainment of the 1st half. He's a young manager though is LJ, and i dobt think you can pin him down to a specific style just yet. Cotterill on the other hand is a seasoned manager, who i argue you can do that to. And he is a functional style of manager. Gets sides organised and solid, with rigid tactics and a core of players. As i say, functional... A great post. I feel that most of the time the teams that are challenging for the promotion spots are the one's who spend the first chunk of the season trying to form a functional unit, slowly but surely adding players to the side who can offer more quality or play a more expansive style. Despite having a much greater budget than most, Wolves were the perfect example of this method last season. Whereas Sheffield United attempted the other method and were always playing catch up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Keeping us as solid as those last 10 games and hoping the forwards do better is very simplistic but something LJ would be mad not to attempt. There was a time I wouldn't have wanted to watch that but I'll happily ditch my ideals to see us flirting with promotion, even if it's only for a month or two of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Johnson will want to play more football next season. Hopefully moving on Wes and Smith will help this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simoncorneyisgod Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Had it confirmed today that we made 110k out of the Smith / Kelly deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handsy Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Had it confirmed today that we made 110k out of the Smith / Kelly dealreally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticMark Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Had it confirmed today that we made 110k out of the Smith / Kelly deal "The two deals are believed to leave Athletic more than £250,000 in pocket" according to Matt Chambers in The Chron. http://www.oldham-chronicle.co.uk/news-features/10/oldham-athletic-news/86606/revolving-doors-at-boundary-park Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Had it confirmed today that we made 110k out of the Smith / Kelly deal Who by Oldham's chairman? or Bristol City's chairman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slystallone Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Who by Oldham's chairman? or Bristol City's chairman? A "source"? #FACT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simoncorneyisgod Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 A "source"? #FACT Always a difficult one as if I name names no doubt that relationship will end and that is particularly difficult given that it is a business based one! Probably best in future that I keep the snippets of information to myself in future.........suppose the people on here that use 'sources' have tainted those that do get (albeit rare) information Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimsleftfoot Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 (edited) Always a difficult one as if I name names no doubt that relationship will end and that is particularly difficult given that it is a business based one! Probably best in future that I keep the snippets of information to myself in future.........suppose the people on here that use 'sources' have tainted those that do get (albeit rare) information I think such things are better received if you say 'don't know if it's true, but....'. I understand the predicament though. At the end of the day, credible sources still can get things wrong. Edited July 2, 2014 by jimsleftfoot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 (edited) Smith's fee is best left as undisclosed - or in other words £350,000. Edited July 2, 2014 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsChris Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 A great post. I feel that most of the time the teams that are challenging for the promotion spots are the one's who spend the first chunk of the season trying to form a functional unit, slowly but surely adding players to the side who can offer more quality or play a more expansive style. Despite having a much greater budget than most, Wolves were the perfect example of this method last season. Whereas Sheffield United attempted the other method and were always playing catch up. Exactly. I think to an extent you have to earn the right to play exciting football. When we played open football we were too easy to pick off on the counter. Then we tightened up and became harder to beat. If we remain hard to beat teams will have to commit more to scoring against us, hopefully leaving space our forwards can exploit. This results in goals and wins and unbeaten runs and promotions. Simple really. I'm no tactician mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super_blue Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Always a difficult one as if I name names no doubt that relationship will end and that is particularly difficult given that it is a business based one! Probably best in future that I keep the snippets of information to myself in future.........suppose the people on here that use 'sources' have tainted those that do get (albeit rare) information Or keep the relationship professional and keep what your told private if it's in the context of buisness! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simoncorneyisgod Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Or keep the relationship professional and keep what your told private if it's in the context of buisness! Wasn't told it was private & confidential just as I wasn't told to broadcast on open forums..........I personally thought I could enlighten people whilst keeping a degree of privacy - as my son would say.....My Bad! You live and learn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsPete Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Mike Yarwood today told the estimable MilnrowLatics that it was , as Matt Chambers thought, around £250k ....but certainly don't want to rubbish SCisgod . Maybe there's a reason for trying to suggest the figure is low - dampens expectations of what there is to spend Alternatively could be a reason for trying to inflate it - we are good negotiators positioning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simoncorneyisgod Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Mike Yarwood today told the estimable MilnrowLatics that it was , as Matt Chambers thought, around £250k ....but certainly don't want to rubbish SCisgod . Maybe there's a reason for trying to suggest the figure is low - dampens expectations of what there is to spend Alternatively could be a reason for trying to inflate it - we are good negotiators positioning Fair enough, all I can say is that he hasn't been wrong on anything so far and given that he is well versed in the in workings of football clubs and in particular Latics I have never had any reason to either doubt him or believe he has any ulterior motive. Playing devils advocate here wouldn't it be a good PR move to inflate the value of the deal to the local presser knowing it would appease fans.........suppose we will never know until the information comes into the public domain! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Playing devils advocate here wouldn't it be a good PR move to inflate the value of the deal to the local presser knowing it would appease fans.........suppose we will never know until the information comes into the public domain! I see what your saying but it's more to do with not letting agents knowing how much money we do or don't have. if we come out and say we are loaded we are showing our hand when it comes to negotiating with any new signings and an agent could potentially rinse us some things are best kept confidential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Playing devils advocate here wouldn't it be a good PR move to inflate the value of the deal to the local presser knowing it would appease fans.........suppose we will never know until the information comes into the public domain! I see what your saying but it's more to do with not letting agents knowing how much money we do or don't have. if we come out and say we are loaded we are showing our hand when it comes to negotiating with any new signings and an agent could potentially rinse us some things are best kept confidential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c.hill12 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Bristol press seem to think we made £150k profit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stagger Lee Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 define profit? - might seem obvious however...... transfer fee received minus transfer fee paid equals profit of 150,000 but transfer fee received minus transfer fee paid minus agents fees, player registration costs and signing bonuses and incidental costs equals smaller profit of 110,000 both your sources could be correct! next post will be how to solve the middle east peace negotiations in three easy steps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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