bigfatjoe1 Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 I've already started to back track. You just get really pissed off at times, especially this year. I'll be back in a couple of weeks. It's in the DNA...mind, i've just watched the news and there's a new break through in fixing broken genes. :censored:, we'll all be supporting the Beijing Arabs.....(when did they get to be valued at £2 billion ffs?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snookmeister Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Fantastic post. It's almost a mirror of myself and how I feel about my once beloved club. I've lost SO much affection over the years, due to the way we've struggled along, and the changing face of football as a whole. I couldn't even tell you who we've got next, such is my apathy. I'll never support anyone else, but I can't even begin to think when my next game will be. Truly sad times... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 Think of the money you'll save, lads... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeroyboy Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 An excellent original post. Along with other posts many traditional reasons are covered as to how we started supporting the club and how it’s all changed. For me it started in 1954 when going to the cinema in Oldham with some mates. We noticed a line of ‘football special’ buses waiting down the side of the Paragon Garage in King Street. I was 8yrs old and this scenario would not be repeated today. After a quick debate we hopped on one. I was hooked. A couple of years ago I wondered how much an adult ticket should cost today allowing a generous inflation figure. I started with a mid-sixties date, added a 10% per annum inflation and an educated guess of 6 shillings/30p entry. If memory serves right it came to £11. Over the last 10 to 15 years I have introduced 6 grandsons to Latics. 3 are now adults and rarely go except for big games. I have been to a game with all six only twice. The youngest, now 9, was first introduced to a live game two years ago at a pre-season friendly at Ashton. He was hooked and became a season ticket holder and he still absolutely loves the games. In the car on the way home from the 5-2 defeat against Southend I was silent. ‘You know granddad, it’s not too bad you know. I thought it was quite a good game – we saw 7goals’. Oh, for the perception of a kid. When he first started going his City and United school chums were taking the micky out of him. I told him to find out how many have seen 'their team' play live. None was the reply. He started to take his programmes into school which went down well and they loved the photos of him leading the team out as mascot. Sadly, these lads don’t have anyone to take them. 9yr olds can’t hop on a bus anymore. The options now for things to do on Saturday are numerous. And no matter how much money each club pumps into the club to gain success it is impossible to avoid disappointment for the majority. There does need to be a realignment of our hopes and expectations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolatic Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 We noticed a line of ‘football special’ buses waiting down the side of the Paragon Garage in King Street. I was 8yrs old and this scenario would not be repeated today. Whey hey, those were the days. At 8 years old, you wouldn't dare venture too far from your own front door nowadays. Especially if it was dark. Oh, to be back in the early 50s again as a snotty nosed, short trousered football fanatic repeatedly hoofing a ball with my mates up against Mr Whittaker's end wall. Did he mind? Did he buggery. He even chalked out some goalposts for us. Football, values and the world has changed beyond recognition, my friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 (edited) Just got back from taking my grandson to watch Burton Albion go top of the league. Oldham 'til i die! Edited December 1, 2015 by Diego_Sideburns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Top and a crowd of 2,888....Just shows that it's possible to put a team together without money! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Whilst it's great to see small teams bucking the trend, Oh my days Burton Albion flying high above Latics!!. How have we fell so behind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Top and a crowd of 2,888....Just shows that it's possible to put a team together without money! And that included a decent following from Millwall! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Bristolatic sums it up for me with this paragraph: "Something is wrong at the club. Blame is aimed at everyone from SC down to the tea lady but, in all fairness, it's down to the players once they're on the pitch. DD, or any manager for that matter, can jump up and down, scream and shout, or just stand still Dave Penney style, but the players are the ones with the final product. Someone has to get the best out of them, because they're a reasonably talented bunch. Only time will tell if DD is that man. Changing manager for the second time in the first 3 to 4 months of the season will just create more instability. He has to be given more time, but the question is, how long? We all have differing views on that one." Isn't it time that the players took some responsibility? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Whilst it's great to see small teams bucking the trend, Oh my days Burton Albion flying high above Latics!!. How have we fell so behind? If only Latics had received 45% of a big attendance at Old Trafford, to enable completion of the North Stand income-producing facilities, and had a knack of appointing good managers who could get the best out of players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 We are only 22 points behind them after 20 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfatjoe1 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 If only Latics had received 45% of a big attendance at Old Trafford, to enable completion of the North Stand income-producing facilities, and had a knack of appointing good managers who could get the best out of players. i know. That would be great. Where did the money from the Liverpool and Everton games go? Down a big hole? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 We are only 22 points behind them after 20 games. They could be safe from relegation by the end of this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 As :censored: as Latics are, and as good as City are, and it may mean nothing to some, when you look at the way they're now a franchise (yes, they genuinely are to the definition of the word) and are 'trying to exploit the Chinese market', I'm sometimes glad I follow a club in a lower league. That kind of commercialism would truly make me lose any sort of faith. Far more than poor players and a bad managerial policy ever could... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Top and a crowd of 2,888....Just shows that it's possible to put a team together without money! This is just a blatant affront to all those who say we shouldn't have the temerity to want to finish higher than 16th. Something must be done about Burton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Bristolatic sums it up for me with this paragraph: "Something is wrong at the club. Blame is aimed at everyone from SC down to the tea lady but, in all fairness, it's down to the players once they're on the pitch. DD, or any manager for that matter, can jump up and down, scream and shout, or just stand still Dave Penney style, but the players are the ones with the final product. Someone has to get the best out of them, because they're a reasonably talented bunch. Only time will tell if DD is that man. Changing manager for the second time in the first 3 to 4 months of the season will just create more instability. He has to be given more time, but the question is, how long? We all have differing views on that one." Isn't it time that the players took some responsibility? That being these same players who haven't been paid properly for the last 3 months? Nope, I can't blame them for not being arsed. If others in the club can't be, why should they be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeroyboy Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Top and a crowd of 2,888....Just shows that it's possible to put a team together without money! You can also fall from a three story building and survive. You could have made your statement more plausible with figures to back it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 This is just a blatant affront to all those who say we shouldn't have the temerity to want to finish higher than 16th. Something must be done about Burton. You can also fall from a three story building and survive. You could have made your statement more plausible with figures to back it up. See? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeroyboy Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 Whilst it's great to see small teams bucking the trend, Oh my days Burton Albion flying high above Latics!!. How have we fell so behind? For clubs like ours promotion to the Premiership usually does the trick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 That being these same players who haven't been paid properly for the last 3 months? Nope, I can't blame them for not being arsed. If others in the club can't be, why should they be? So... are you suggesting that: Being paid late is the reason why so many have failed to perform? If this is the case, then are you saying this is acceptable? Just asking like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 So... are you suggesting that: Being paid late is the reason why so many have failed to perform? If this is the case, then are you saying this is acceptable? Just asking like. I would say that just like booing them is extremely counter-productive...so is not paying them. Waking up on a Saturday morning, some of them knowing their bills haven't been paid because their direct debits have bounced, maybe even unable to go to a cash machine and withdraw some cash because sadly, some people live for their payday and lo and behold, expect to get paid. I can't imagine that puts their mood in a sunny disposition. I can't imagine it helps their focus. Most probably affects concentration levels. Throws preparation out of the window. This is the real world...not the world where folk forget that they are actually normal people with real lives, children and probably at our level, money worries too. Not paying them is what is unacceptable. The consequences from it should be at the least, understandable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertie_Dugger Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 I would say that just like booing them is extremely counter-productive...so is not paying them. Waking up on a Saturday morning, some of them knowing their bills haven't been paid because their direct debits have bounced, maybe even unable to go to a cash machine and withdraw some cash because sadly, some people live for their payday and lo and behold, expect to get paid. I can't imagine that puts their mood in a sunny disposition. I can't imagine it helps their focus. Most probably affects concentration levels. Throws preparation out of the window. This is the real world...not the world where folk forget that they are actually normal people with real lives, children and probably at our level, money worries too. Not paying them is what is unacceptable. The consequences from it should be at the least, understandable. Couldn't agree more with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 You can also fall from a three story building and survive. You could have made your statement more plausible with figures to back it up. By the same token you can fall into a puddle of water and not survive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted December 2, 2015 Share Posted December 2, 2015 I can relate a lot with what you said in this post. Good luck fella. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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