HarryBosch Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 I'll be amazed if Dummigan starts this game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 1 hour ago, BP1960 said: Plenty about, Shez will already be making moves to bring him in. I certainly hope he is However I just feel that with a midfield 4 you are better off having 2 lads who can be defensive minded and win the ball for the other 2 to go and play it gives you more balance in the centre of the park. So I'd go with Mclaughlin Fane Enforcer Odabayi With Gardener and Keyemeh from the bench to begin with. Get Fane and the enforcer to get hold of the ball and tell Mclaughlin and Tope that the shackles are off go and play create some chances score some goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, boundaryblue80 said: Oh for a Mark Allott now ? Never thought I’d be saying that! Good shout. That's exactly the type of player we need Mark Allott circa 2007 won the ball back and passed the ball simply and effectively. Ironically we've usually done well for signing defensive midfielders it's the one type of player we usually have that we need most right now. Edited August 13, 2017 by GlossopLatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 39 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: He's a tidy little player. And another that many on OWTB seem to want to be something he's not. It's a bit of a theme on here of late - ball playing midfielder Banks must become a tough tackling enforcer, tough tackling Fane must become Shez in his prime, winger Kyeremeh who's played 18 games in his career MUST start and will be our saviour but should be played behind the front two not as the winger he is.... I think it's because our players are so extremely one-dimensional - Fane can run but is a fraud of a footballer, Banks has talent but he's diabolical at everything other than Hollywood passes. This is why our midfield is so poor and it's why we need to put three in there. With Flynn it's not about tackling it's just about wanting the ball and not vanishing for five games at a time. Have said it a thousand times but on the few occasions when we looked like a professional football team it was because Flynn was on form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 13, 2017 Author Share Posted August 13, 2017 (edited) In situations like this you need players who aren't afraid to attack and are a breath of fresh air from the staleness we have seen so far. This is why the Belgian has to start along with Gardner IMO. An old head who can pass a ball in addition as cover behind them would be a welcome addition. Edited August 13, 2017 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 2 hours ago, HarryBosch said: He's a tidy little player. And another that many on OWTB seem to want to be something he's not. It's a bit of a theme on here of late - ball playing midfielder Banks must become a tough tackling enforcer, tough tackling Fane must become Shez in his prime, winger Kyeremeh who's played 18 games in his career MUST start and will be our saviour but should be played behind the front two not as the winger he is.... Fuck sake, you'd think I suggested we played him in net! I'm sure the commentary and reports suggested he played more centrally against girona? Besides, until we sign a new central midfielder there's no way we can play with 2 out and out wingers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 1 hour ago, NewBlue said: I think it's because our players are so extremely one-dimensional - Fane can run but is a fraud of a footballer, Banks has talent but he's diabolical at everything other than Hollywood passes. This is why our midfield is so poor and it's why we need to put three in there. With Flynn it's not about tackling it's just about wanting the ball and not vanishing for five games at a time. Have said it a thousand times but on the few occasions when we looked like a professional football team it was because Flynn was on form. I said last season at the start...we will be one of them teams that when Flynn plays well, we will play well. Hence why we had a shit season. He doesn’t play well much. Happy to be called a pro footballer and that’s about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 1 hour ago, HarryBosch said: I'll be amazed if Dummigan starts this game I actually thought he did alright yesterday. He was stitched up by having Davies in front of him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Currently Wigan 3 Bury 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dec666 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 God only knows what Nick Powell is going to do to our midfield next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 13, 2017 Author Share Posted August 13, 2017 2 hours ago, nzlatic said: Fuck sake, you'd think I suggested we played him in net! I'm sure the commentary and reports suggested he played more centrally against girona? Besides, until we sign a new central midfielder there's no way we can play with 2 out and out wingers. He's not an out and out winger from what I've seen, he ran at Girona from all angles and could play as a central attacking midfieder IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 28 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: Currently Wigan 3 Bury 1 Wellens commenting on the game for bbc Manc, seems knowledgable hopefully he's seen some weaknesses we can exploit or at least some tactics that get us a point as I'm not confident on a win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 13, 2017 Author Share Posted August 13, 2017 The last 3 matches have been dominated by little midfielders having the freedom of the park, hopefully the coaching team won't keep allowing this to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 1 minute ago, BP1960 said: The last 3 matches have been dominated by little midfielders having the freedom of the park, hopefully the coaching team won't keep allowing this to happen. How do you suggest they stop them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, deyres42 said: How do you suggest they stop them? Kicking them up in the air early on would be worth a try.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 We'll beat these by the way...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 13, 2017 Author Share Posted August 13, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, deyres42 said: How do you suggest they stop them? Close them down, they have all had 20 yards of space against us. Give Nick Powell room to play on Saturday and he will destroy us. Edited August 13, 2017 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 1 hour ago, deyres42 said: How do you suggest they stop them? Snipers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 10 minutes ago, BP1960 said: Close them down, they have all had 20 yards of space against us. Give Nick Powell room to play on Saturday and he will destroy us. A radical idea. Fire off one of your famous emails and let them know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: Snipers? Our snipers would probably miss the target. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 13, 2017 Author Share Posted August 13, 2017 15 minutes ago, deyres42 said: A radical idea. Fire off one of your famous emails and let them know. Ask a question you get an answer, what more do you want apart from enjoying being cynical ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 23 minutes ago, deyres42 said: A radical idea. Fire off one of your famous emails and let them know. Come on Eyresy, lay off him. You're better than that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 30 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Our snipers would probably miss the target. we need 5 or 6 new snipers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 10 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: Come on Eyresy, lay off him. You're better than that... I know, I'm only messing, he just leaves the goal wide open sometimes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 13, 2017 Author Share Posted August 13, 2017 (edited) 26 minutes ago, deyres42 said: I know, I'm only messing, he just leaves the goal wide open sometimes... I give an opinion and welcome other viewpoints. I can tell you I've worked with many professional managers and coaches and some have so little knowledge of the game you would be amazed. We have all met bosses at work who bluff their way through haven't we? Edited August 13, 2017 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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