mcfluff1985 Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 Just now, JoeP said: There's no denying that we've got better players and results have improved... So improved on the shit Sheridan brought in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 22 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: Unsworth is doing a bad job, it's all relative and if you can't see that there is little point having a debate. Couple of things that may surprise you though alongside the train of thought you have now with regards to Unsworth is this, we currently have the second highest wage bill in the division so this myth that Unsworth is working with a load of shite is frankly bollocks. We've took two of the divisions best strikers (allegedly) from other teams and have our biggest wage bill since Abdallah went stupid, we now have fans fawning over Unsworth (well the odd one like yourself) like he's the next Pep despite us being unable to string two passes together the majority of the time looking almost clueless and comprehensively outplayed by teams like Southend who haven't been paid for two months and have been under a transfer embargo for most of the season. Now I think this divisions that bad that Unsworth with 3 or 4 quality signings will get us out of it but for me that will be more to do with the position he's inherited and the backing he'll get, anything but top three next season will be failure for me because there will be literally no excuses. chucking budget 'myths' about when weve signed 40 players including lois maynard and that zane chap is a bit disengenuous do you not think? Lootbagger raking it in whilst pretending to be a keeper probably out earns half of the starting XI combined at a fair few clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said: So improved on the shit Sheridan brought in Give Sheridan Unsworth's budget and I doubt they would be as "shit"... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 1 minute ago, JoeP said: Give Sheridan Unsworth's budget and I doubt they would be as "shit"... ..and if not then we can blame Unsworth for it. win win, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlemoor Lad Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said: Some embarrassing positions being taken. New years day I was ready for him to go. I said it was time he was sacked. Since then I've changed my mind with the results we have got We shall see at the start of the new season I still maintain with Unsworth, we'll be having the exact same debate halfway through it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Littlemoor Lad said: We shall see at the start of the new season I still maintain with Unsworth, we'll be having the exact same debate halfway through it We won't because he'll not still be in charge if so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 11 minutes ago, JoeP said: Give Sheridan Unsworth's budget and I doubt they would be as "shit"... Good position to take for you. Can't be proven. We can see the results Unsworth IS getting though and they're good. Or do you disagree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, Littlemoor Lad said: We shall see at the start of the new season I still maintain with Unsworth, we'll be having the exact same debate halfway through it We will see. Hopefully we'll be up in the top 4 or 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 55 minutes ago, JoeP said: No point having the "strongest squad for years" if the Chairman's going to make you play the likes of Sonny Sefil. It's basically like starting games with ten men... But the chairman never made Wellens play Sohny Sefil... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said: Good position to take for you. Can't be proven. We can see the results Unsworth IS getting though and they're good. Or do you disagree Can't argue with the results, even if the games have been mind-numbingly dull. Give him a decent budget for the summer and I expect a bit of entertainment thrown in next season as well, which'll be new territory for him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 56 minutes ago, Monty Burns said: bump this in 11months.. Gladly will do it myself even if I am right or wrong. I honestly think he hasn't got the wherewithall to put together a season long winning team (I know there are some games that will be lost by the team that wins the division). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: But the chairman never made Wellens play Sohny Sefil... You don't think Abdallah told Wellens what players to play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 27 minutes ago, JoeP said: There's no denying that we've got better players and results have improved... The manager should take some of the credit too for the upturn in form. If the players are getting results then that shows the players are playing for him. We should all be prepared to acknowledge that. We can give credit to someone while still maintaining a healthy level of doubt about their ability. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OAFCLongsuffeting Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, JoeP said: You don't think Abdallah told Wellens what players to play? Think he meant more that Sefil signed in 2019 in League 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, OAFCLongsuffeting said: Think he meant more that Sefil signed in 2019 in League 2 Probably why he'd be a more deserving winner of LaticsMind! The point is Abdallah told Wellens what players to play which, in my opinion, absolves Wellens from blame.. Edited April 20, 2023 by JoeP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OAFCLongsuffeting Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 Just now, JoeP said: Probably why he'd be a more deserving winner of LaticsMind! The point is Abdallah told Wellens what players to play which, in my opinion, absolves him from blame.. I agree, I think that’s how we got treated to the worst 45 minutes from a footballer I have ever seen in Omrani - which was under Wellens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 15 minutes ago, JoeP said: You don't think Abdallah told Wellens what players to play? I know that he did. But a dog could have had that team that Wellens put out towards the end of that season and still picked up enough points to survive... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_R Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 30 minutes ago, JoeP said: Can't argue with the results, even if the games have been mind-numbingly dull. Give him a decent budget for the summer and I expect a bit of entertainment thrown in next season as well, which'll be new territory for him... I hope it’ll be a lot better to watch next year, but my belief in that we’ll be up there challenging is more to do with the poor standard we’ll be up against then much faith in the manager. I happy to give him the benefit of the doubt for now though 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south east latic Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 I was firmly in the Unsworth out camp until fairly recently and I sympathise with those who are still unimpressed - if you look at his tenure as a whole, it’s not been great. However he is potentially on the verge of having us finish the season in the top half and, results-wise, is finishing the season strongly which were both important criterion for me. I don’t think anyone can deny that it’s not dull, and that really will have to change to some degree but over the past few weeks I’ve seen a team really putting it in. We’ve looked more solid and though we’ve created a pitiful amount of chances, we’ve now got some quality in the side who can finish their dinner. I think he’s earned the right for a crack at it next season but we have to be in and around the top 3 from minute 1 next season. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlemoor Lad Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 57 minutes ago, deyres42 said: We won't because he'll not still be in charge if so. Ofcourse he will 3 year's is 3 year's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlemoor Lad Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 53 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said: We will see. Hopefully we'll be up in the top 4 or 5 Sorry to piss on your bonfire but you're off your head if you think that's happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100milesaway Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 One thing for sure, the players are pulling their tripe out for Rhino. So the players are pretty sure that something decent is about to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 3 hours ago, League one forever said: Yep. Fine with that. It wasn’t easy for any manager under AL But they don’t a complete free pass either. Woah. That's not what you said last season when that City tit Curle was here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 2 hours ago, JoeP said: Which would be wrong because? Because it's not true? Otherwise owning a football club would be easy - sign best players in league, hire any idiot as manager, get promoted. Salford would have been promoted from league 2 ages ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 35 minutes ago, Littlemoor Lad said: Sorry to piss on your bonfire but you're off your head if you think that's happening We shall see. Its the form we are currently showing not sure why you think it won't continue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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