basilrobbie Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 .... I will mostly be sulking, and throwing missiles at the postman if he dares come anywhere near me. Bollocks....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 see you in 2025 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 27 minutes ago, basilrobbie said: .... I will mostly be sulking, and throwing missiles at the postmanu if he dares come anywhere near me. Bollocks....... Watched the game last night… Blackpool have some very talented individuals but were lacking structure and team discipline at the crucial moments. Good support until the third Millwall goal went in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worcester Owl Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 3 hours ago, basilrobbie said: .... I will mostly be sulking, and throwing missiles at the postman if he dares come anywhere near me. Bollocks....... Commiserations. Mind you, what would we give to be kicking off in L1 next season......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 4 hours ago, basilrobbie said: .... I will mostly be sulking, and throwing missiles at the postman if he dares come anywhere near me. Bollocks....... Commiserations bud. I don't follow your teams fortunes anywhere near the way you follow ours but what went wrong? is it just bridging the gap between Championship and L1 or have other more preventable things go on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 4 hours ago, TheBigDog said: Watched the game last night… Blackpool have some very talented individuals but were lacking structure and team discipline at the crucial moments. Good support until the third Millwall goal went in. I see young Rob Apter has signed a new contract at Blackpool, get him in on loan next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basilrobbie Posted April 29, 2023 Author Share Posted April 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, GlossopLatic said: Commiserations bud. I don't follow your teams fortunes anywhere near the way you follow ours but what went wrong? is it just bridging the gap between Championship and L1 or have other more preventable things go on? The main thing was losing Critchley so unexpectedly. He'd not long since signed a lengthy contract, but decided he wanted to be Gerrard's No. 2 at the Villa. We all know how that turned out, and he has subsequently been sacked at QPR too (more a reflection on them than him, I think). The club freely admit they had no contingency plan for his departure. They might have been able to get Duff, or even Rosenior, but appointed Appleton. A lot of fans took against him immediately because of his PNE links and when they sacked him they chose the wrong dinosaur in McCarthy - Huddersfield have had a lot more value from Warnock. Add in a terrible injury list and a very poor disciplinary record, and here we are. It's a very tough Division for a club of our size. Kieran Maguire published a list of average weekly wages for players by club in the 2021/22 season a few days ago. We were bottom, paying £3.5k per week ; Fulham were paying £44k. And we still LOST £75k per week that season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, basilrobbie said: The main thing was losing Critchley so unexpectedly. He'd not long since signed a lengthy contract, but decided he wanted to be Gerrard's No. 2 at the Villa. We all know how that turned out, and he has subsequently been sacked at QPR too (more a reflection on them than him, I think). The club freely admit they had no contingency plan for his departure. They might have been able to get Duff, or even Rosenior, but appointed Appleton. A lot of fans took against him immediately because of his PNE links and when they sacked him they chose the wrong dinosaur in McCarthy - Huddersfield have had a lot more value from Warnock. Add in a terrible injury list and a very poor disciplinary record, and here we are. It's a very tough Division for a club of our size. Kieran Maguire published a list of average weekly wages for players by club in the 2021/22 season a few days ago. We were bottom, paying £3.5k per week ; Fulham were paying £44k. And we still LOST £75k per week that season. The championship really is the biggest basket case when it comes to the disparity between teams in the league. From The teams coming up from League 1 to the teams coming down from the PL with parachute payments whats that these days £70mill a season? Plus Some owners are gambling what £50mill loss a season in the attempt to get into the PL. Also I think L1 is more competitive than since we left in 2018 looking at the big clubs at the top of L1 it won't be easy for you getting back up but if you are prepared you should be pretty competitive right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 30 minutes ago, basilrobbie said: The main thing was losing Critchley so unexpectedly. He'd not long since signed a lengthy contract, but decided he wanted to be Gerrard's No. 2 at the Villa. We all know how that turned out, and he has subsequently been sacked at QPR too (more a reflection on them than him, I think). The club freely admit they had no contingency plan for his departure. They might have been able to get Duff, or even Rosenior, but appointed Appleton. A lot of fans took against him immediately because of his PNE links and when they sacked him they chose the wrong dinosaur in McCarthy - Huddersfield have had a lot more value from Warnock. Add in a terrible injury list and a very poor disciplinary record, and here we are. It's a very tough Division for a club of our size. Kieran Maguire published a list of average weekly wages for players by club in the 2021/22 season a few days ago. We were bottom, paying £3.5k per week ; Fulham were paying £44k. And we still LOST £75k per week that season. yeah thats far from enough. scary really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts2 Posted April 29, 2023 Share Posted April 29, 2023 2 hours ago, GlossopLatic said: The championship really is the biggest basket case when it comes to the disparity between teams in the league. From The teams coming up from League 1 to the teams coming down from the PL with parachute payments whats that these days £70mill a season? Plus Some owners are gambling what £50mill loss a season in the attempt to get into the PL. Also I think L1 is more competitive than since we left in 2018 looking at the big clubs at the top of L1 it won't be easy for you getting back up but if you are prepared you should be pretty competitive right? iirc Burnley received £100 million in parachute payments or have spent that much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basilrobbie Posted April 29, 2023 Author Share Posted April 29, 2023 2 hours ago, GlossopLatic said: . Also I think L1 is more competitive than since we left in 2018 looking at the big clubs at the top of L1 it won't be easy for you getting back up but if you are prepared you should be pretty competitive right? I hope so. We need to appoint a new manage quickly, and we need some new capacity on the Board. It won't be easy as at least three of Wednesday, Bolton, Derby and Barnsley will still be there, plus Posh and Pompey. But I hope we will be OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 https://planetradio.co.uk/rock-fm/local/news/andy-pilley-football-fleetwood-town-jailed-fraud-waterford-preston-court/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 13 years is a fair old sentence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted July 4, 2023 Share Posted July 4, 2023 5 hours ago, BP1960 said: https://planetradio.co.uk/rock-fm/local/news/andy-pilley-football-fleetwood-town-jailed-fraud-waterford-preston-court/ Saw something on twitter that said he'd done 6 months for conspiracy to steal prior to getting involved with Fleetwood. Might explain the sentence a bit too. While Fleetwood were non-league when he took over, and the length of sentence means Pilley didn't have to declare it. It is a bit worrying that he passed the fit & proper persons test with a conviction like that on his record. I'd imagine he'd now be barred for life from holding a company director post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basilrobbie Posted July 5, 2023 Author Share Posted July 5, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, rudemedic said: Saw something on twitter that said he'd done 6 months for conspiracy to steal prior to getting involved with Fleetwood. Might explain the sentence a bit too. While Fleetwood were non-league when he took over, and the length of sentence means Pilley didn't have to declare it. It is a bit worrying that he passed the fit & proper persons test with a conviction like that on his record. I'd imagine he'd now be barred for life from holding a company director post. He's banned for thirteen years as a company director generally. And with the recent changes to the O&DT he will never be able to be involved with a football club again. And you were right about his earlier conviction - (conspiracy to steal from the Post Office, I believe) - it is "spent" because it was less than six months. I think he may have slipped through the EFL radar because the O&DT wasn't well established then, but they have had plenty of time to watch him create a completely unsustainable entity that must be at real risk now. What happens now is anyone's guess. The club has around £24m of debt (almost all owed to AP), and loses over £50k per week. It doesn't own either the ground or the training ground. His money is now turned off and his assets may be subject to a Proceeds of Crime Order. Bizarrely, the club is maintaining a position that they carry on business as normal. Even more bizarrely, a lot of their fans seem to believe it. It's a mess, and given I grew up there and watched them more times than I care to remember when I was a kid, it's really sad too. Edited July 5, 2023 by basilrobbie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 21 minutes ago, basilrobbie said: He's banned for thirteen years as a company director generally. And with the recent changes to the O&DT he will never be able to be involved with a football club again. And you were right about his earlier conviction - (conspiracy to steal from the Post Office, I believe) - it is "spent" because it was less than six months. I think he may have slipped through the EFL radar because the O&DT wasn't well established then, but they have had plenty of time to watch him create a completely unsustainable entity that must be at real risk now. What happens now is anyone's guess. The club has around £24m of debt (almost all owed to AP), and loses over £50k per week. It doesn't own either the ground or the training ground. His money is now turned off and his assets may be subject to a Proceeds of Crime Order. Bizarrely, the club is maintaining a position that they carry on business as normal. Even more bizarrely, a lot of their fans seem to believe it. It's a mess, and given I grew up there and watched them more times than I care to remember when I was a kid, it's really sad too. How are Blackpool doing Baz? You signed anyone decent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basilrobbie Posted July 5, 2023 Author Share Posted July 5, 2023 We've signed Norburn from Posh. That is a noteworthy signing. Pennington, who was Player of the Year at Shrewsbury. A reserve goalie, a young lad who I don't know much about, a young kid from Ireland for the Development Squad. OK so far, but quite. lot more to come I feel, as a lot have been allowed to leave. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Tic Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 6 minutes ago, basilrobbie said: We've signed Norburn from Posh. That is a noteworthy signing. Pennington, who was Player of the Year at Shrewsbury. A reserve goalie, a young lad who I don't know much about, a young kid from Ireland for the Development Squad. OK so far, but quite. lot more to come I feel, as a lot have been allowed to leave. You’ve not seen a lad called Andrew Dallas around and about have you ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 21 minutes ago, True Tic said: You’ve not seen a lad called Andrew Dallas around and about have you ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basilrobbie Posted July 5, 2023 Author Share Posted July 5, 2023 9 minutes ago, League one forever said: Ha ha. Not me, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted July 5, 2023 Share Posted July 5, 2023 3 hours ago, basilrobbie said: He's banned for thirteen years as a company director generally. And with the recent changes to the O&DT he will never be able to be involved with a football club again. And you were right about his earlier conviction - (conspiracy to steal from the Post Office, I believe) - it is "spent" because it was less than six months. I think he may have slipped through the EFL radar because the O&DT wasn't well established then, but they have had plenty of time to watch him create a completely unsustainable entity that must be at real risk now. What happens now is anyone's guess. The club has around £24m of debt (almost all owed to AP), and loses over £50k per week. It doesn't own either the ground or the training ground. His money is now turned off and his assets may be subject to a Proceeds of Crime Order. Bizarrely, the club is maintaining a position that they carry on business as normal. Even more bizarrely, a lot of their fans seem to believe it. It's a mess, and given I grew up there and watched them more times than I care to remember when I was a kid, it's really sad too. How have the EFL allowed it to get to that, don't they check clubs finances annually? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basilrobbie Posted July 5, 2023 Author Share Posted July 5, 2023 7 hours ago, BP1960 said: How have the EFL allowed it to get to that, don't they check clubs finances annually? I can only surmise, but they have stayed within P&S rules since they came Into the league, just about. And he has made a lot of loans / gifts to keep them as competitive as possible. As long as those loans weren't called in**, the problem was theoretical rather than real. But now the chickens are going to come home to roost. ** there are plenty of other clubs like this. Brighton, for example, "owe" Tony Bloom around £400m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latics22 Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 Brian cox interviewed on sky asked about a consortium of him and Brad Pitt. Tongue in cheek tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Mikey Posted July 8, 2023 Share Posted July 8, 2023 29 minutes ago, latics22 said: Brian cox interviewed on sky asked about a consortium of him and Brad Pitt. Tongue in cheek tho He'd raise billions and billions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worcester Owl Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 On 7/8/2023 at 12:28 PM, latics22 said: Brian cox interviewed on sky asked about a consortium of him and Brad Pitt. Tongue in cheek tho Professor, or Logan Roy? The former maybe as an Oldham boy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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