deyres42 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 29 minutes ago, League one forever said: The cost of backing DU unfortunately. Looks like we’re shopping in the bargain bucket until the summer. Eight of the sixteen who featured in the second leg of the historic double over Hartlepool were Unsworth signings... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 11 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Eight of the sixteen who featured in the second leg of the historic double over Hartlepool were Unsworth signings... And? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 6 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Eight of the sixteen who featured in the second leg of the historic double over Hartlepool were Unsworth signings... . . . and the other eight aren’t wanted. One of which we paid a significant fee for. Several of which are on contracts until the end of time. Until we can offload some of them the quality of signing will reflect that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 4 minutes ago, oafc1955 said: And? Well it rather debunks the idea that the budget has been spunked... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 6 minutes ago, League one forever said: . . . and the other eight aren’t wanted. One of which we paid a significant fee for. Several of which are on contracts until the end of time. Until we can offload some of them the quality of signing will reflect that. Green and Reid were squad regulars under 5PM. There's only really Nuttall and Shelton from the longer contract crew who you could say hasn't worked out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Just now, deyres42 said: Green and Reid were squad regulars under 5PM. Until he realised they were shite… He wouldn’t be playing a few more if he had a choice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lee Sinnott said: Heard about the winger. Doesn't really excite me, been around a bit and thought we were beyond signing journeymen these days... You never know, but I remember him as left footed and nippy who loves to run at defenders so may be used as a central attacking midfielder these days. If he's better than what we've got that could be MMs criteria. Edited January 3 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Any names lads ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 6 minutes ago, oafc1955 said: Until he realised they were shite… He wouldn’t be playing a few more if he had a choice! I don't wish to be pedantic but isn't one of them injured and the other suspended? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) 25 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Green and Reid were squad regulars under 5PM. There's only really Nuttall and Shelton from the longer contract crew who you could say hasn't worked out. We wouldn’t be looking at wingers if he fancied Green. Dickenson and Kurt can’t get a game. Ward can’t stay fit. Freeman has only just been released Reid wants likes more than goals. Nuttall and Shelton won’t play for us again. None of the above were signed as development players or punts. They were signed to play in the first team, I’d wager their combined weekly wage is circa 10- 12k a week. Or for better context 500 to 600 grand of the yearly budget. That’s not insignificant and certainly not a ‘myth’ Edited January 3 by League one forever 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 (edited) 20 minutes ago, deyres42 said: I don't wish to be pedantic but isn't one of them injured and the other suspended? Reid was injured and now suspended, McGahey has been disciplined and is not being considered, I think Green is fit now but as far as I’m aware he’s still shite…….let’s have it right…they only played because of injuries and Nuttall being Nuttall! Let’s be honest…..with a few additions they wouldn’t be anywhere near!! Edited January 3 by oafc1955 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 8 minutes ago, League one forever said: We wouldn’t be looking at wingers if he fancied Green. Dickenson and Kurt can’t get a game. Ward can’t stay fit. Freeman has only just been released Reid wants likes more than goals. Nuttall and Shelton won’t play for us again. None of the above were signed as development players or punts. They were signed to play in the first team, I’d wager their combined weekly wage is circa 10- 12k a week. Or for better context 500 to 600 grand of the yearly budget. That’s not insignificant and certainly not a ‘myth’ New manager comes in and doesn't fancy every player signed by the previous one shocker. There weren't too many dissenting voices when they were brought in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 minute ago, deyres42 said: New manager comes in and doesn't fancy every player signed by the previous one shocker. There weren't too many dissenting voices when they were brought in. Perhaps that's because people were willing to give them a chance, there is a couple on LOF's list who I would stick with, certainly Ward who could be the catalyst for getting a bit more out of Lundstram. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 9 minutes ago, deyres42 said: There weren't too many dissenting voices when they were brought in. Because they appeared to be decent signings…..we now know different!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 11 minutes ago, deyres42 said: New manager comes in and doesn't fancy every player signed by the previous one shocker. There weren't too many dissenting voices when they were brought in. You’ve gone down one of your famous rabbit holes again. None of the above is relevant to what we are discussing. We’re talking about the budget as it is. You’re saying (I think) that the budget spend is a myth, and there should be plenty left. Im saying, it’s a simple fact that they’re multiple players on good money and long contacts that aren’t fancied for whatever reason. They are taking a very hefty chunk of the budget and it’s unrealistic to expect a big splash until we move some of them on. Probably in the summer. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 6 minutes ago, oafc1955 said: Because they appeared to be decent signings…..we now know different!! Excusing Ward given he's not had the chance to show anything yet there's only really Shelton and perhaps Willoughby who haven't contributed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100milesaway Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 Apart from Ward, I don't think that Willoughby has been fit enough to really show us what he can do yet. You can't score the goals he did at Chester without having something about him. Let's give him a proper chance to prove himself. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 minute ago, League one forever said: You’ve gone down one of your famous rabbit holes again. None of the above is relevant to what we are discussing. We’re talking about the budget as it is. You’re saying (I think) that the budget spend is a myth, and there should be plenty left. Im saying, it’s a simple fact that they’re multiple players on good money and long contacts that aren’t fancied for whatever reason. They are taking a very hefty chunk of the budget and it’s unrealistic to expect a big splash until we move some of them on. Probably in the summer. No, that isn't what I'm saying, I'm sure there isn't a bottomless pot of money. People are suggesting the money has been wasted when the truth is it has been spent on players who are playing and contributing, the odd one or two haven't worked out, it happens, bit of a stretch to suggest there are multiple players who aren't fancied though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 24 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Excusing Ward given he's not had the chance to show anything yet there's only really Shelton and perhaps Willoughby who haven't contributed. Ward and Willoughby have not had enough playing time to show what they can deliver and for us to properly judge… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 minute ago, TheBigDog said: Ward and Willoughby have not had enough playing time to show what they can deliver and for us to properly judge… Tell that to the budgets been spunked lads... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmb Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 1 hour ago, LightDN123 said: Any names lads ? People on twitter are saying Danny Lloyd and Kyron Gordon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 13 minutes ago, TheBigDog said: Ward and Willoughby have not had enough playing time to show what they can deliver and for us to properly judge… Probably not enough for us to judge as fans but from what Mellon has seen everyday in training for the last 2 months he hasn't considered either certainly not Willoughby who definitely hasn't been injured amd has only been on the fringes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 8 minutes ago, deyres42 said: No, that isn't what I'm saying, I'm sure there isn't a bottomless pot of money. People are suggesting the money has been wasted when the truth is it has been spent on players who are playing and contributing, the odd one or two haven't worked out, it happens, bit of a stretch to suggest there are multiple players who aren't fancied though. Ah ok, I’m with you. Right, in that case. Here’s the Unsworth signings I think Mellon would move on now if he could. (If he wants to move them on, then it doesn’t matter if they’ve contributed does it? Freeman contributed. . and was shipped out as soon as they could. Freeman already gone. Shelton Nuttall Reid Kurt Dickenson Green Possibly Ward. Here’s who will stay. Raglan Hobson Kitch Norwood Lundy Possibly Ward. Of the permanent signings- Hobson, Kitch and Norwood have been superb. Lundy and Raglan have been good signings- with more to come in time I think. Ward is still unknown. The rest have been in and out of the side, and some are being superseded by loans. They become dead wood if they aren’t fancied- which they aren’t. (Even if they looked ok/good signings at the time) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 25 minutes ago, TheBigDog said: Ward and Willoughby have not had enough playing time to show what they can deliver and for us to properly judge… I agree BD. But it’s moot. Kurt is having loan players come in ahead of him. That tells you he isn’t fancied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 'Norwood has been superb' is good to see elsewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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