underdog Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 14 minutes ago, HarryBosch said: Why don't you outbid Abdallah for Security Steve's services??? I did suggest that however I don't know if the Trust funds will stretched to my paid protection.....hmmmm Like I have said Harry, I am no wall flower, I survived the 80's footy days like we all did and have broken up many a fight at the college and challenged un-acceptable behaviours. Saturday was not acceptable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 5 hours ago, real said: News just out kevin achieves goal KTaF Had that 1994 shirt, until this morning... A quick look on Twitter and a few of the comments he’s made about Islam won’t go down very well with Abdallah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 5 hours ago, real said: News just out kevin achieves goal KTaF Real......Where have you been? I have missed you and wondered if you were okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Dave_Og said: But that's exactly my point. I have never, as far as I can remember, met any trust director (past or present) and therefore have no clue as to who they are other than names. Yeah you have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 52 minutes ago, oafcmetty said: Yeah you have Oh yeah... My memory isn't what it was! You know one of my colleagures I believe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 Ed C? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 19 minutes ago, oafcmetty said: Ed C? IJH? Or maybe that's your brother that knows him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 Haha yes, he's a good lad, in that Eton kind of way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 36 minutes ago, oafcmetty said: Haha yes, he's a good lad, in that Eton kind of way Takes all sorts...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseowl Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 7 hours ago, underdog said: And I get it.... we are never going to be eveyone's cup of tea. But we are here to safeguard the club. Owners and fans come and go, the club remains. Hi underdog - I`m not the Trust's number one fan.... but have given credit when it's due. I have never understood how/why the Trust thinks it is in a position to safeguard the club. It's a laudable aim but a pipe dream in my opinion. Another issue I have is that I expect the Trust to be able to maintain relationships with owners. Us mere fans can rant and rave all we want but, at the end of the day, I expect the Trust (with its treasured 3% shareholding) to adopt a mature approach in its dealings. We've now witnessed a complete breakdown in relationships with a) Simon Corney and b) Abdallah Lemsagam. If the Trust (with its right to a seat on the board etc.) cannot maintain relationships with the club's owners, what chance have they really got? I know both owners will have riled sections of fans in different ways but, as I say, it's pretty crucial that relationships are maintained between Trust and Owner. Perhaps the Trust needs a period of reflection and/or change of approach because something clearly isn't right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 18 minutes ago, wiseowl said: Hi underdog - I`m not the Trust's number one fan.... but have given credit when it's due. I have never understood how/why the Trust thinks it is in a position to safeguard the club. It's a laudable aim but a pipe dream in my opinion. Another issue I have is that I expect the Trust to be able to maintain relationships with owners. Us mere fans can rant and rave all we want but, at the end of the day, I expect the Trust (with its treasured 3% shareholding) to adopt a mature approach in its dealings. We've now witnessed a complete breakdown in relationships with a) Simon Corney and b) Abdallah Lemsagam. If the Trust (with its right to a seat on the board etc.) cannot maintain relationships with the club's owners, what chance have they really got? I know both owners will have riled sections of fans in different ways but, as I say, it's pretty crucial that relationships are maintained between Trust and Owner. Perhaps the Trust needs a period of reflection and/or change of approach because something clearly isn't right. Disagree. ‘Something clearly isnt right’ and the trust trying to dig has upset those at fault. What they supposed to do? Kiss arse to maintain relations? Nah, fuck that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 25 minutes ago, wiseowl said: Hi underdog - I`m not the Trust's number one fan.... but have given credit when it's due. I have never understood how/why the Trust thinks it is in a position to safeguard the club. It's a laudable aim but a pipe dream in my opinion. Another issue I have is that I expect the Trust to be able to maintain relationships with owners. Us mere fans can rant and rave all we want but, at the end of the day, I expect the Trust (with its treasured 3% shareholding) to adopt a mature approach in its dealings. We've now witnessed a complete breakdown in relationships with a) Simon Corney and b) Abdallah Lemsagam. If the Trust (with its right to a seat on the board etc.) cannot maintain relationships with the club's owners, what chance have they really got? I know both owners will have riled sections of fans in different ways but, as I say, it's pretty crucial that relationships are maintained between Trust and Owner. Perhaps the Trust needs a period of reflection and/or change of approach because something clearly isn't right. All a bit Barry Owen is this pile of shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 8 hours ago, yarddog73 said: All a bit Barry Owen is this pile of shite. Olololololololololooool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy b Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 8 hours ago, wiseowl said: Hi underdog - I`m not the Trust's number one fan.... but have given credit when it's due. I have never understood how/why the Trust thinks it is in a position to safeguard the club. It's a laudable aim but a pipe dream in my opinion. Another issue I have is that I expect the Trust to be able to maintain relationships with owners. Us mere fans can rant and rave all we want but, at the end of the day, I expect the Trust (with its treasured 3% shareholding) to adopt a mature approach in its dealings. We've now witnessed a complete breakdown in relationships with a) Simon Corney and b) Abdallah Lemsagam. If the Trust (with its right to a seat on the board etc.) cannot maintain relationships with the club's owners, what chance have they really got? I know both owners will have riled sections of fans in different ways but, as I say, it's pretty crucial that relationships are maintained between Trust and Owner. Perhaps the Trust needs a period of reflection and/or change of approach because something clearly isn't right. The key point is that owners of football clubs typically don’t want supporters trusts hanging around, asking questions and interfering. We start from that position meaning that achieving a positive relationship which works for both parties is always going to be challenging. I wouldn’t agree that relationships with the current owner have broken down rather they have been amicable but simply we haven’t been getting out of the relationship we need (see point one). We have been kept at arms length. You will be aware that few people have been brought into AL’s circle of trust. What that means is that we have to muddle through and use what we have in our armoury to achieve some sort of influence. That includes our legal rights and hopefully being able credibly say that we speak on behalf of thousands of fans. Making a nuisance of ourselves to good effect is probably the best a trust expect to can achieve. What is clear to me is that faith in the trust is tarnished by the past and particulary the corney years when, as an outsider, it appeared to do very little to effect any change within the club. The relationshop worked for SC and the trust didn’t push back enough. we are now taking a different approach with the current owner and after 11 months of his ownership (and largely giving him the benefit of the doubt) are asking the awkward questions, turning the screw a little and making our presence felt. That is fundamentally what our fans want and it’s the right thing to do in the circumstances. the trust has embarked on a mini project in that regard and I would ask that it is judged on that as a signal of its future long term intent (under the steer of new directors alongside existing ones with years of experience) rather than the past. i’d be interested in hearing your alternatives and the change you allude to. With all due respect its difficult to accept a suggestion that the trust needs to change without a suggestion of what that change needs to look like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 This is defo the bloke who went native when he looked into corneys eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Mikey Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Monty Burns said: This is defo the bloke who went native when he looked into corneys eyes. If it involved brain washing there wouldn't have been much detergent required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 No truly wise man would ever refer to himself as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Mikey Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 10 minutes ago, Monty Burns said: No truly wise man would ever refer to himself as such. That's owlist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjk2008 Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 46 minutes ago, Monty Burns said: This is defo the bloke who went native when he looked into corneys eyes. That's my train of thought too - what was his username at the time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevesidg Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Monty Burns said: This is defo the bloke who went native when he looked into corneys eyes. Was it nonaenever or something like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythemostimportantkick Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 27 minutes ago, stevesidg said: Was it nonaenever or something like that? It was. But it’s nonaenever no more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Excellent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 12 hours ago, wiseowl said: Hi underdog - I`m not the Trust's number one fan.... but have given credit when it's due. I have never understood how/why the Trust thinks it is in a position to safeguard the club. It's a laudable aim but a pipe dream in my opinion. Another issue I have is that I expect the Trust to be able to maintain relationships with owners. Us mere fans can rant and rave all we want but, at the end of the day, I expect the Trust (with its treasured 3% shareholding) to adopt a mature approach in its dealings. We've now witnessed a complete breakdown in relationships with a) Simon Corney and b) Abdallah Lemsagam. If the Trust (with its right to a seat on the board etc.) cannot maintain relationships with the club's owners, what chance have they really got? I know both owners will have riled sections of fans in different ways but, as I say, it's pretty crucial that relationships are maintained between Trust and Owner. Perhaps the Trust needs a period of reflection and/or change of approach because something clearly isn't right. Cool story. Perhaps you need a period of reflection to reflect on what you’ve just posted. Or just stop posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Or set up a new profile so we don’t know who you are for six months 🗑 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanuts Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 if anybody has the misfortune to run into the Birk tonight just whisper tik tok tik tok i think i may of got under his skin a little on his rant thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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