NewBlue Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 (edited) I thought Philiskirk played very well today. He did. Showed his football brain. Only thing I thought held him back perhaps was that he backed out of a few tackles which Kelly and Jones would have taken the man and ball. Needs to add that something into his game if he's going to be a sitting, passing midfielder. Nevertheless, both him and Dieng played well. Looked well balanced as a side and with those chances put away it would have been a routine victory. Mayor for Bury looked a player. What's the 'We Love You' chant you're on about, Anthony? Edited August 29, 2015 by NewBlue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC0AFC Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Agree on philiskirk, played very well today. Completed the Kelly role perfectly, imagine Forte our wide running onto the through balls that David Dunn has been supplying?? Perfection, get it sorted Daz! Dieng again showing his ability, did Brown play that well? Could have given a penalty away - was his usual decent performance but no special mention today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageTheBeast Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Thought atmosphere today was better than Rochdale last season. Bury didn't really make much of one, they just had a massive drum. As for the game thought it was very even both teams had chances but it thought we should have been out of sight before they scored their goal. Jones had time to compose himself and Wilson should have scored but he's a defender. Also thought croft should have hit it instead of passing to simonas. All in all a draw was a fair result even though I was disappointed by it. We are looking like we did under Ronnie Moore hard to beat but playing unattractive football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 He did. Showed his football brain. Only thing I thought held him back perhaps was that he backed out of a few tackles which Kelly and Jones would have taken the man and ball. Needs to add that something into his game if he's going to be a sitting, passing midfielder. Good old Daniel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyPimp Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 We should have won - no 2 ways about it. James Wilson was excellent but it does concern me that he was the only one brave enough to go beyond Forte on that counter attack. That looked to me like a training ground ploy. If I see more of James Wilson in a one on one with the opposition 'keeper, I'll die a happy man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 James Dayton-esque... Harsh. From the tiny bit we saw, thought Yeates had much more about him than Dayton...but then most players do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayItLivo Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 (edited) Our central midfield was none existent. We couldn't get a foothold in the middle of the park at all which led to Bury being able to mount a fair bit of pressure on us, especially in the second half. We were brilliant out wide and managed to get enough crosses in, we just didn't have enough bodies in the box to cause them any problems and no out and out striker to challenge their keeper enough. Can't really grumble too much at the draw even though we should have took more of our chances. They were generally in top for the last 30 mins and we relied on counter attacking football which we weren't bad at. I just don't see why Kelly didn't bring on Poleon for his pace when it was apparent that we were going to have to counter it seemed quite an obvious sub really. Let's face it, if Crofty was still able to beat his man after 80 mins surely Poleon would have breezed by them. It was a good match though. Edited August 30, 2015 by PlayItLivo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aarondo Westy Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 really good performane still unbeated could and should of won. I dont know about anyone else tho but i never feel like we are going to score from a corner routine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayvan Cowboy Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 We've got to play two up front. Playing one up top may work when you've got Diego Costa up there, but it doesn't and never will work in the third tier. Especially if your lone striker is a winger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lags Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 (edited) Nah. Brown all day.. Dieng by a country mile. It's all about taking chances. Had we done so we would have walked away with a 4-2 victory. Edited August 30, 2015 by Lags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageTheBeast Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Just listened to Kelly's interview in BBC Manchester he's starting to sound better. Checked the attendance and what a poor one only 5400 there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hands on Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 An enjoyable day when the aims of our manager were met by the team with the exception of finishing. Forte is not a number nine but Stan could be. Stan was so obviously delighted to be on that he ran too far and wide - pity he missed the tap in. I don't know what the lad did but the decision to dive into the crowd and extract him was not a good one. The stewards and police were no doubt up for it and the pushing and shoving when other fans joined in gave them great pleasure with the opportunity to hit some more people. If that was model policing then they have the wrong model. Connor is still a problem in that he goes from very poor to very good and still can't do anything well when he has time to think which leads to the pass back or lump forward. For example Croft teed him up for a cross and he just passed the ball back to Croft who had two men round him with Stan in the middle thinking why no cross. The weakness of our team remains the full backs because of their size and inconsistency. Ding looks a better centre back than Burn but also played well in the holding role. It will be difficult for teams to stop us because the formation allows us to attack across the width of the pitch. Fun times ahead! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 (edited) The shape of the team at the final whistle was much better. Two proper wingers Jones back inside where he belongs and in his post match interview Kelly suggested he wants forte playing off the big lad. It'll be interesting to see how he sets up in the two forthcoming home games. Overall I'm disappointed we haven't won the game but the performance was the best since Walsall. However rather like Colchester we've not been clinical enough a good start should be an excellent one with his having four more points. A more clinical side would have won 3 or 4-1 yesterday so it is the same old failings letting us down. There are s lot of similarities to our start in Shez's first season - a shortage of goals and lots of good football. Let's hope sooner or later one of our strikers 'clicks' ala porter. It'll be interesting to see what plays out in the market this week.... Edited August 30, 2015 by oafcprozac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 And I agree Dieng was superb again - a rolls Royce of a footballer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 And I agree Dieng was superb again - a rolls Royce of a footballer... I've always been amazed that Dieng hasn't featured more regularly in his time here. As for next week, the loanee has tweeted he's off to join Lithuania U21's. Is he unavailable next week...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 And I agree Dieng was superb again - a rolls Royce of a footballer... If he keeps this up Corney might splash out on a second shirt with his name on.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShireBlue Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 (edited) A fun day out. Thought overall we defended well, Burn continues to impress at centre half and Special Mention deserves a special mention. Although it was disappointing to concede when we did. As has been said, Dieng was very impressive and DP worked hard in an unfamiliar role. I'm not keen on the 4-2-3-1 and we need to go 2 up front, but the midfield 3 did their best getting forward, however they were too often squeezed into the corners. Police are :censored:ing daft and it's no wonder it kicked off. Edited August 30, 2015 by ShireBlue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dec666 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 A fun day out. Thought overall we defended well, Burn continues to impress at centre half and Special Mention deserves a special mention. Although it was disappointing to concede when we did. As has been said, Dieng was very impressive and DP worked hard in an unfamiliar role. I'm not keen on the 4-2-3-1 and we need to go 2 up front, but the midfield 3 did their best getting forward, however they were too often squeezed into the corners. Police are :censored:ing daft and it's no wonder it kicked off. 1 up front away from home is fine for me, we created plenty of opportunities yesterday and looked solid across the team. It's at home where we need to see some improvement, I'd prefer two, but if it's still one we need to play with much more intensity than we did against Shrewsbury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melia Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 One negative for me was Forte and Phili both backed out of 50/50's on a few occasions. Not something I want to see in a derby. Anyone else know why Philli didn't shoot too in the box and like a hot potato he threw it right badly to whoever passed to him?! Ps what the :censored: was that wall about in first half? Wilson and burn marking no one and all our smallest players making up the wall!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Connor is still a problem in that he goes from very poor to very good and still can't do anything well when he has time to think which leads to the pass back or lump forward. For example Croft teed him up for a cross and he just passed the ball back to Croft who had two men round him with Stan in the middle thinking why no cross. The weakness of our team remains the full backs because of their size and inconsistency. Not sure why you've picked out Brown. Put in some very good crosses that Cassidy may well have converted. We all know he's limited but he had a 6/7 out of 10 game once again, and doesn't try to do things that he can't. We've conceded the second fewest and have scored the second fewest, so I would suggest our first priority isn't the full backs, both were decent yesterday against the second top scorers, whose goal was poor from the two centre halves, if anything, and that aside hardly even got into our area. If we could upgrade on Brown for cheap then of course you would, but I don't think it's anywhere near urgent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fruitygoo Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 The shooting thing has always been a problem with philliskirk and its crept in with others to...sometimes we delay a shot too long and then shoot when a man has closed them down. Im not saying shoot at every opportunity but occasionally, fire one in! In a post i made yesterday about forte, i wasnt criticising, he worked relatively hard but he did back out of a couple challanges and i genuinlly think hes lacking pace. Saying 'uninterested' was only a suggestion as to why this may be the case. As a striker he cant be on his own for me. He'd be much better as the left winger pushing on. I have no issues with him up there as a two. He lacks the 'killer' instict for me to be our sole striker. I though whoever said SS didnt really get in the game was a bit harsh. Should have scored but showed glimpses of decent movement and touch considering he only met the squad friday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageTheBeast Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Worse song of the day goes to us singing we hate Rochdale more than you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Philliskirk is a product of over coaching like so many ex premier league kids. Watch any game and they all take way too many touches the breed of instant finisher is dying a death slowly - number one aim now is ball retention and game management whatever the hell that means but players are terrified of giving away possession and always take the easy option. Sadly this philosophy is creeping down the leagues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 BUT I still think Philli is our most natural finisher at the club and is wasted on CM... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Worse song of the day goes to us singing we hate Rochdale more than you... Can't believe that we never once took the piss out of the fact we sent them down last time we played them at Gigg Lane and Matt Smith scored that header Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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