NewBlue Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 BUT I still think Philli is our most natural finisher at the club and is wasted on CM... Forte must be our best finisher... Philly is erratic I think. Shoots a lot but doesn't score a lot. Liable to missing good chances at times, looks very natural at other times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusunga_Is_God Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Dieng was class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Coleman - did the job required Brown - I thought he was disappointing, especially on their goal. Mills - much better Burn - decent Wilson - decent but really should have wrapped up the points Dieng - excellent Jones - disappointing despite good work rate Dunn - a treat to watch Croft - excellent and creative Philliskirk - surely he's the one who should be making the penalty area? Agree with Prozac's assessment. Forte - did well overall. Should have had a goal. Needs more support. Under hit the ball to put Wilson away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aarondo Westy Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Can't believe that we never once took the piss out of the fact we sent them down last time we played them at Gigg Lane and Matt Smith scored that header There was a breif smithy sent you down sent you down, smithy sent you down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melia Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 The most natural finisher? 'Maybe? But I'm sure a natural finisher wouldn't watch a ball roll across the line not throw the ball like a hot potato in the box. Maybe that's a goal poacher? I dunno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshgaz Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 (edited) He just doesn't have enough pace to be effective up front at this level. Mould him into a holding midfielder I'd say. Edited August 30, 2015 by welshgaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveoafc Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Dunn a class above. Croft so much more positive today. Could and should have been more - had so many more chances than them, and it felt like the goal was their only meaningful shot. Does Pope always score against us? Feels that way. Jones isn't a winger, don't play him there. Yeates and Stan didn't particularly impress when they came on - too many loose passes. Best we've played since Walsall, but you have to be getting 3 points when you dominate. I thought Stan did quite well for a first game, he should have buried his chance though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latics_Fanatic Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Did Burn go off injured yesterday or was it purely tactical? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I thought Stanky was impressive of debut, played very much like a classical English No 9.He was always looking to get a run in for high crosses. If he can put the ball in he'll be a very useful player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsPete Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Philiskirk a natural striker/finisher? Sorry but no way - if he was he'd be hungry for goals not someone who never bombs on to get on the end of a possible cross, someone who is hesitant about getting shots in, and someone is obviously not greedy to get to the ball before defenders. Coached out of him? Impossible to say but there are many players of his age who are more goal hungry. Maybe he's just too nice a bloke and doesn't have the edge to him that's required . For me , wherever he plays, he has to improve the percentage of headers he wins, and be more confident and adventurous in his passing. Currently he's the master of the 5/10 yard ball - but I'm sure he can do more and look for the pass that switches direction, wrong footing the other team and spreads the play 25, 35, 40 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyOAFC Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Just listened to Kelly's interview in BBC Manchester he's starting to sound better. Checked the attendance and what a poor one only 5400 there Had a look at Bury's forum last night and they said the attendance was a positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 He just doesn't have enough pace to be effective up front at this level. If that point was made about Philly it is actually very accurate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 (edited) He just doesn't have enough pace to be effective up front at this level. Mould him into a holding midfielder I'd say. If that point was made about Philly it is actually very accurate Pace is over rated at this level. Nouse & finishing are of far more value - surely we've learnt that over all these years of having so many pacy forwards with single figure goalscoring records.....? Even Forte's pace wasn't that great a factor in his 15 goals last season.... Nouse, positioning, finishing was... Edited August 30, 2015 by HarryBosch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Pace is over rated at this level. Nouse & finishing are of far more value - surely we've learnt that over all these years of having so many pacy forwards with single figure goalscoring records.....? Even Forte's pace wasn't that great a factor in his 15 goals last season.... Nouse, positioning, finishing was... Pawel's Law too. Beckett and Hughes weren't blessed with pace and neither was Porter, pace is useful but certainly not as useful as nouse, positioning and finishing are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddot_m Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Pawel's Law too. Beckett and Hughes weren't blessed with pace and neither was Porter, pace is useful but certainly not as useful as nouse, positioning and finishing are. Correct. We could do with a Like Beckett to do nothing for 90 minutes but score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Correct. We could do with a Like Beckett to do nothing for 90 minutes but score. Exactly. And another one to come off the bench if needed would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Correct. We could do with a Like Beckett to do nothing for 90 minutes but score.That's like wanting a big centre back who is :censored: at everything except heading the ball. Chris Porter was as good at scoring as Beckett and other people also scored more goals when he played Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Not sure why you've picked out Brown. Put in some very good crosses that Cassidy may well have converted. Why wasn't Cassidy playing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Why wasn't Cassidy playing? Playing Lithuania u-21's I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeylandLatic Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Pawel's Law too. Beckett and Hughes weren't blessed with pace and neither was Porter, pace is useful but certainly not as useful as nouse, positioning and finishing are. Is 'nouse, positioning and finishing' a new owtb meme or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsChris Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 If Connor Brown is a poor player because he keeps nearly giving away penalties is a centre forward excellent if he keeps nearly scoring goals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 If Connor Brown is a poor player because he keeps nearly giving away penalties is a centre forward excellent if he keeps nearly scoring goals? Or is the centre forward :censored: if he keeps nearly missing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngen Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Brown was average, but at fault for the build up to the goal. However if Burn steps out then their lad is offside, so a few people switched off for it. Dieng was fantastic, as was Croft even though I havent been impressed with his return, he showed more than just running around a lot on Saturday. James Wilson and Jon Burn could prove to be the difference between bottom and top half, they look really comfortable together. Wilson is a class above. David Dunn provided comedy in the first half, and then was an absolute joy in the 20 minutes of the second half where he just ran the game, excellent to watch. Philiskirk will give you 7 out of ten in any position, and I though he looked the part in holding mid again Saturday, but would still like to accomodate Jones in Centre mid where he belongs, as he is imo our most effective central midfielder and wasted out wide. Forte looked a touch better, and grabbed an assist, but he is still too much of a soft arse for me who doesnt look interested in any sort of confrontation, thought he should have hit first time when he went through (think it was the chance where Philli eventually shat himself in front of goal). Maybe Forte lacks a bit of confidence at the minute with his injury, but he needs to shape up a bit if he is going to continue up top. Still wondering how we didnt win that game, and how we actually lost that second half! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Pace is over rated at this level. Nouse & finishing are of far more value - surely we've learnt that over all these years of having so many pacy forwards with single figure goalscoring records.....? Even Forte's pace wasn't that great a factor in his 15 goals last season.... Nouse, positioning, finishing was... I was assuming that Welsh gaz was talking about pace over the first 3 or 4 yards which is everything at any level. Pace over 30/40 yards =Poleon=:censored:e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshgaz Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 An inspector from GMP is coming to my dad's house to follow up on my dads complaint tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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