Dave_Og Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 To his credit he went and spoke to the group of fans in question. and said what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusunga_Is_God Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 and said what? it's a secret shhh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 People have a right not to like Barry. People have a right to complain about his actions if they don't agree with them. But this is the second time in a couple of weeks his words or actions seem to have been deliberately taken out of context. I don't think that's playing fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laticsmarra Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 I would expect in most normal professional clubs the Chief Executive would be the main spokesperson and face of the club. There appears to be a void and for whatever reason Barry has stepped into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 I would expect in most normal professional clubs the Chief Executive would be the main spokesperson and face of the club. There appears to be a void and for whatever reason Barry has stepped into it. We have all stepped into it, not a nice experience having to clean your shoes after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 (edited) Does he pay for his ticket? Does he pay for his food and drink pre match and half time in the boardroom? Does he pay for his own travel to away games or catch a lift via the team bus or company funded travel? If he's unpaid and does a lot of valuable :censored:ty donkeywork behind the scenes for our club, for nothing, he shouldn't pay for any of that.. Ridiculous & very, very sad to suggest otherwise or moan about it... Why have we always had this cabal of fans who HATE someone elses freebie that makes :censored: all difference to them...?? Almost as bad as the "being :censored: is fine", lower your expectations brigade... Edited September 6, 2015 by HarryBosch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 People have a right not to like Barry. People have a right to complain about his actions if they don't agree with them. But this is the second time in a couple of weeks his words or actions seem to have been deliberately taken out of context. I don't think that's playing fair. You've got a point but he really has made a rod for his own back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midsblue Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 If he's unpaid and does a lot of valuable :censored:ty donkeywork behind the scenes for our club, for nothing, he shouldn't pay for any of that.. Ridiculous & very, very sad to suggest otherwise or moan about it... Why have we always had this cabal of fans who HATE someone elses freebie that makes :censored: all difference to them...?? Almost as bad as the "being :censored: is fine", lower your expectations brigade... My comments are in response to suggestion that Barry does the role for free. I have no issue that he gets to see games for free along with all the corporate hospitality as he's a director but he doesn't do the role for free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshawlatic Posted September 6, 2015 Author Share Posted September 6, 2015 To answer the original question. No such actions happened so let's not let rumours/allegations get in the way of the facts. I've spoken with Barry about it. He was clapping the team off at the end of the game and then indicated to the fans shouting at him that he'd pop straight down to speak to them. That is all. To his credit he went and spoke to the group of fans in question. Hi Barry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsslatic Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 (edited) Hi Barry I know that's a flippant comment but stuff like it isn't helpful. You've asked the Trust a question. The new fan's representative on the board has come on and explained what Bazza said happened which is more than Bazza would have done if he was still in situ. Edited September 6, 2015 by jsslatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Does he pay for his ticket? Does he pay for his food and drink pre match and half time in the boardroom? Does he pay for his own travel to away games or catch a lift via the team bus or company funded travel? He may not be paid as a director but he's retired and it seems to me the club funds the whole if his hobby of following and supporting his football club. I've witnessed him via the media and close up in person on match days; he's divisive, full of contempt, dour, destructive and arrogant - all great characteristics I'm guessing then to build bridges with the fans and moving the club forward. This post just massively stinks of the truth. Is SC using an arrogant idiot in BO and a clueless rabbit in DK, as his shields? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I know that's a flippant comment but stuff like it isn't helpful. You've asked the Trust a question. The new fan's representative on the board has come on and explained what Bazza said happened which is more than Bazza would have done if he was still in situ. I must admit I thought 'hi Barry' when I read the post. Knowing now that the poster is the new fans rep shines a different light on what he said. Maybe the fans rep should be more visible as the fans rep on here, rather than just appearing to be another regular user. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 To answer the original question. No such actions happened so let's not let rumours/allegations get in the way of the facts. I've spoken with Barry about it. He was clapping the team off at the end of the game and then indicated to the fans shouting at him that he'd pop straight down to speak to them. That is all. To his credit he went and spoke to the group of fans in question. All singing off the same hymn sheet then. Whats struck me about speaking to trust members is how Barry has them all in his pocket, the trust isnt the voice of the fans or a true representation of them. What exactly is its remit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC0AFC Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I know that's a flippant comment but stuff like it isn't helpful. You've asked the Trust a question. The new fan's representative on the board has come on and explained what Bazza said happened which is more than Bazza would have done if he was still in situ. Not sure he's actually the new voice on the board, more just a board member that's willing to engage with fans - I'm sure his new role is something to do with marketing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshawlatic Posted September 7, 2015 Author Share Posted September 7, 2015 I know that's a flippant comment but stuff like it isn't helpful. You've asked the Trust a question. The new fan's representative on the board has come on and explained what Bazza said happened which is more than Bazza would have done if he was still in situ. It was a light hearted joke - this place is so serious sometimes - no offence was intended and I appreciated the input Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshawlatic Posted September 7, 2015 Author Share Posted September 7, 2015 (edited) It was a light hearted joke - this place is so serious sometimes - no offence was intended and I appreciated the input Though in saying that, he says "let's not let rumours get in the way of facts" then puts forward Barry's version of events as if we are to accept that as "fact" because Barry says so? Edited September 7, 2015 by JWhite101 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookers87 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 No that's my version of events as I saw it all happen, and I have since had a conversation with Barry, so just reporting back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckshawlatic Posted September 7, 2015 Author Share Posted September 7, 2015 No that's my version of events as I saw it all happen, and I have since had a conversation with Barry, so just reporting back. Apologies I didn't realise you'd seen it first hand - it came across in your post as you'd simply had Barry tell you what happened Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookers87 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Apologies I didn't realise you'd seen it first hand - it came across in your post as you'd simply had Barry tell you what happened No problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 My comments are in response to suggestion that Barry does the role for free. I have no issue that he gets to see games for free along with all the corporate hospitality as he's a director but he doesn't do the role for free But he's working while he's seeing games "for free" & working while in corporate hospitality. Would you rather him be queuing for a pie than schmoozing with potential club sponsors/investors, building contacts....? (OK, with it being Barry, I'd rather he was queuing for a pie but, you know what I'm saying ). Is a player on £1000 not really on just £1000 a week as he gets into games free aswell?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hands on Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 For a club that tells us very little it is perhaps refreshing to have Baz telling us how it is. It is their club and they will do what they want and aim as low as they like. SC has done a great job for us but it does seem that we are now in the end game and hopefully then a new leaf can be turned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 (edited) All singing off the same hymn sheet then. Whats struck me about speaking to trust members is how Barry has them all in his pocket, the trust isnt the voice of the fans or a true representation of them. What exactly is its remit? I actually resent that remark...Barry has not been on the Trust board since Feb and I those who know me will tell you that I have no hesitation on speaking up for myself as well as the other trust members too. We are diverse in backgrounds and experience and we are all volunteers. There was an AGM in June and new board members were elected such as myself, Jorvik and Leeslover who frequent this board. Other elected members do not. Lookers87 was elect as the trust representative on the board. We have three aims protect the future of OAFC Being a key partner of the club Investing in the future of OAFC Since close season, we have arranged two meet the managers events, one being this week, two open fans forums with representatives from the club....third one will be announced soon. Also, helped the club get the message out with regards to the Summer clean up. Now, I don't think that's not too bad of a fresh start you could say since Barry resigned...did I mention we we all volunteers too. Thought I did And personally, I have not spoken to Barry since the players end of season do in May and I'm too big to get in his pocket thanks and red fleeces do not suit me either especially when I get angry, as I go all red and get Diedre Barlow veins coming up out of my neck. However at least I don't go green and rip my clothes off now.... So, yes I've spat my dummy out a bit of this post. some on the Trust board have diplomatic skills. I do not.....but I was told to grown a second skin however I don't have the bloody time too. Watch this space for the next fans forum and if you want come on down and meet the people on the trust board, or look out on how to login on line for live Q and A too. You can contact us anytime if you wish to find out more about the trust and how you can volunteer too, or meet some of the board that will be at this Thursday meet the manager. Maybe meeting us in person might help you to understand what challenges we have and maybe clarity over what we do to. Edited September 7, 2015 by underdog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I really do think it matters that if trust directors (who I admire for putting their heads over the parapet) come on here and say things in any form of official capacityth athey use their real names. I have no idea whatsoever who Jorvik and Leeslover are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 (edited) I really do think it matters that if trust directors (who I admire for putting their heads over the parapet) come on here and say things in any form of official capacityth athey use their real names. I have no idea whatsoever who Jorvik and Leeslover are. . I will abide by the rules of the OWTB board with regards to personal data posted. It would also be wrong to name people without their permission as they they might want a username protected too. The trust website is constantly being updated but recent meeting notes are on there as well as the June AGM and who has been elected to the trust board. If you are curious, please check the web page out. We are working on board member profiles too. I think some are on there www.trustoldham.co.uk There are also snippets of info on the pinned trust oldham page up top too Cheers Edited September 7, 2015 by underdog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostofcecere Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Might it be useful for the trust to have an official account in OWTB? (If one hasn't been created already) That way Lookers 87, Underdog, Jorvik, Leeslover etc. can maintain a profile as an average fan and express personal opinion or dare I say it, partake in banter and we get any official opinion or information through the official username. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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