BP1960 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 So how do you know that money has been needed to be spent on the drainage? It's always seemed pretty good to me. Obviously its gone to pot now, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueatheart Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Can't remember when we last played football on it! Unfortunately The FA youth cup etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickjagger Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 (edited) The FA youth cup etc. Think his comments where tongue in cheek Edited February 6, 2016 by mickjagger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laticsmarra Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 The drainage has gone and if the Groundsman can't authorise the purchase of a bag of fertiliser there is no chance of the drainage being fixed. The drainage was a legacy of Chris Moore,paid for with with money we didn't have. The subsequent years of under investment have taken their toll on the pitch. We now have a pitch that isn't fit for league Football.ironically we have a stand that is,but the fans that sit in it have nothing to watch when we get heavy rain. Even worse we have more pies and caviar to throw away,causing increased losses to OAFC every time there is a cancellation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senor_Coconut Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 The drainage has gone and if the Groundsman can't authorise the purchase of a bag of fertiliser there is no chance of the drainage being fixed. The drainage was a legacy of Chris Moore,paid for with with money we didn't have. The subsequent years of under investment have taken their toll on the pitch. We now have a pitch that isn't fit for league Football.ironically we have a stand that is,but the fans that sit in it have nothing to watch when we get heavy rain. Even worse we have more pies and caviar to throw away,causing increased losses to OAFC every time there is a cancellation. So it's nothing to do with the wettest winter on record? Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laticsmarra Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 So it's nothing to do with the wettest winter on record? Interesting. When the drainage was fully functional it could cope with whatever rain was thrown at it.it has deteriorated and is now non functional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 So it's nothing to do with the wettest winter on record? Interesting. This sort of weather may be a feature every winter, there's sometning about this global warming which is shiftng weather patterns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uppermill Latics Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 We have the 2nd highest pitch in the country and get much harsher weather than most. We are after all on the edge of the pennines. Third - West Brom and Port Vale. I saw the Carlisle pitch on the TV last Sunday in the FA Cup tie with Everton. If you recall that was under water nearly up to the crossbars - and it looked bloody good to me. This club is scrimping in all areas and the results are there for all to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 We were talking about this yesterday. The 'Deso' pitch was purchased 15 years ago by OMBC at a cost of £500,000 - Corney and co. refunded this as part of their purchase of the club, ground and surrounding land in early 2004. The problem we have is that the pitch is now beyond its shelf life. The pitch needs a certain amount of sand to help it drain but the sand there now has broken down to a very fine level. This means it clumps and the pitch doesn't drain - it is now the wrong type of sand if you will. As coarser sand drink better.(You couldn't make it up!) But that's the reality. The pitch needs completely relaying and the top inches or so scraping right down. A new pitch would cost us in the region of £800K - £1.2M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueatheart Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Third - West Brom and Port Vale. I saw the Carlisle pitch on the TV last Sunday in the FA Cup tie with Everton. If you recall that was under water nearly up to the crossbars - and it looked bloody good to me. This club is scrimping in all areas and the results are there for all to see. They totally relaid it from grass grown elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Third - West Brom and Port Vale. I saw the Carlisle pitch on the TV last Sunday in the FA Cup tie with Everton. If you recall that was under water nearly up to the crossbars - and it looked bloody good to me. This club is scrimping in all areas and the results are there for all to see. I thought Port Vale was highest, but this link says we are still 2nd. if it's correct. http://www.midfielddynamo.com/stadia/england_highest.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Third - West Brom and Port Vale. I saw the Carlisle pitch on the TV last Sunday in the FA Cup tie with Everton. If you recall that was under water nearly up to the crossbars - and it looked bloody good to me. This club is scrimping in all areas and the results are there for all to see. After the 2005 flood, Carlisle built a completely new drainage system and completely new pitch. A local company used to supply turf to Wimbledon and I believe substantially contributed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsPete Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Third - West Brom and Port Vale. I saw the Carlisle pitch on the TV last Sunday in the FA Cup tie with Everton. If you recall that was under water nearly up to the crossbars - and it looked bloody good to me. This club is scrimping in all areas and the results are there for all to see. As Blueatheart said, it was a new pitch after the flood - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3396156/Carlisle-United-150-000-new-pitch-laid-floods-left-Brunton-Park-underwater.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 I thought Port Vale was highest, but this link says we are still 2nd. if it's correct. http://www.midfielddynamo.com/stadia/england_highest.htm Get more sand on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 Considering the rain prior, the pitch looked pretty good at the beginning of January, even after all that rain in December including floods on Boxing day https://youtu.be/I9YDzkvxdL4 So I think it a bit harsh to suddenly call it. Especially given the volume of rain since. Some on Twitter are saying a drain had collapsed too, not helping the situation. You can't suddenly dig the pitch up mid winter, the turf will hardly grow back in a week or too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted February 7, 2016 Share Posted February 7, 2016 I certainly wondered if something underground had caused the strip down the middle, I've never seen anything quite like that before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 We have played four first team games at home since the 24th November, regardless of the weather we've had the pitch really should be in better condition. Many amateur games went ahead in the Borough over the weekend, even if you have a walk on Clayton all of those pitches which have seen two or three games a weekend over the past couple of months are in better condition, in fact the pitches on Crossley put ours to shame, what is the real reason for this because there is no doubt it could be another factor in us being relegated, for a professional club its another embarrassment, everything about the club is non-league at the minute its being run into the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super_blue Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 We have played four first team games at home since the 24th November, regardless of the weather we've had the pitch really should be in better condition. Many amateur games went ahead in the Borough over the weekend, even if you have a walk on Clayton all of those pitches which have seen two or three games a weekend over the past couple of months are in better condition, in fact the pitches on Crossley put ours to shame, what is the real reason for this because there is no doubt it could be another factor in us being relegated, for a professional club its another embarrassment, everything about the club is non-league at the minute its being run into the ground. Haven't the youth/kids played a few cup games on there as well and they went into extra time. Remember them playing during heavy rain as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsPete Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Youth team games don't count ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 If the pitch is so poor why are the youth team playing on the pitch? surely they could play their games at a local non league venue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 If the pitch is so poor why are the youth team playing on the pitch? surely they could play their games at a local non league venue. FA Rules; VENUE FOR MATCHES (a) Venue (i) The venue of each match will be that of the first drawn Club unless the consent of the Council has been obtained to any change of venue up to and including the Fifth Round Proper. (ii) No monetary or other consideration shall be asked for, offered or paid in connection with negotiations for a change of venue. (iii) A match shall not be played on a neutral ground without the consent of the Council. (iv) In any event, the Council shall have the power to order that any match be played on an alternative ground or date, if it is considered appropriate and necessary. For ties switched from the ground of the Club first drawn, the Council shall determine the financial conditions in which the tie shall be played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Crowdfunding should have gone towards a 4G pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 (edited) Crowdfunding should have gone towards a 4G pitch. Good recent article on the subject; http://the72.co.uk/44911/can-artificial-playing-surfaces-future-football-league/ Edited February 8, 2016 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 Good recent article on the subject; http://the72.co.uk/44911/can-artificial-playing-surfaces-future-football-league/ It will happen in the next year or two and once one club gets one others will follow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 8, 2016 Share Posted February 8, 2016 It will happen in the next year or two and once one club gets one others will follow. I'm sure you are right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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