ChaddySmoker Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 16 minutes ago, kowenicki said: Worrying isn’t it. Not trying to get the sack... in which case he is getting it wrong despite trying to do his best. Tactics are badly wrong most weeks. Players to blame. 11 grown men have to take the responsibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 I was working last week during the game so didn't get to go. Funnily enough I was on a train which stopped at Shrewsbury which left around half 6 so asked some of their travelling fans about the match. They couldn't believe we'd been beaten or that we were bottom. We're not far off and there's a team there for the right manager. The instability at the club I believe is causing problems, probably the sort which account for good performances and defeats. It's very plausible to think that an influx of new signings has disrupted the squad and when players like Clarke are playing piss poor you've got to think there's a real issue. It will come together if Shez is given the chance, but I fear for us massively if we start what I expect to be a proper management carousel with lots of untried foreign lads arriving in tow. That said, I'd be interested to see how we get on with a tested manager... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Oh, and that keeper is dogshit. We'll probably do much better without a lad throwing them into the back of his own net... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 (edited) 39 minutes ago, kowenicki said: Worrying isn’t it. Not trying to get the sack... in which case he is getting it wrong despite trying to do his best. Tactics are badly wrong most weeks. If Edmundson doesn’t fuck up at Fleetwood the tactics are spot on If Ruddy isn’t shit and Doyle miss an open goal against Shrewsbury the tactics are spot on Rotherham attacked our biggest weakness (full back areas) yesterday. Shez should’ve changed to a back 4...but who plays LB? Who replaces the woeful Edmundson? All the correct answers are injured. Edited September 24, 2017 by boundaryblue80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 11 minutes ago, NewBlue said: The instability at the club I believe is causing problems, probably the sort which account for good performances and defeats. It's very plausible to think that an influx of new signings has disrupted the squad and when players like Clarke are playing piss poor you've got to think there's a real issue. Spot on this. Whatever happened to giving 10 games for a squad to gel? This squad wasn’t assembled until August 31st. As far as I’m concerned, that’s when the season started. And that’s before you add in the Corney circus going on in the background. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh_latics Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 12 minutes ago, NewBlue said: Oh, and that keeper is dogshit. We'll probably do much better without a lad throwing them into the back of his own net... This, from @wadge78 on Twitter, is an absolutely remarkable photo for the first goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejh45 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 25 minutes ago, ChaddySmoker said: Players to blame. 11 grown men have to take the responsibility. Just a direct question.......did you say the same when Kelly, Dunn or Robinson was in charge? Because if you play a crap formation and it doesn't work, you can't collectively blame the players!!! Forwards will say they don't get service, wide players say they don't get service, midfield players say they are over-run, full backs say they get no help from the wide men, centre-backs say they need a defensive midfield player, goalkeepers say they are left exposed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 30 minutes ago, josh_latics said: This, from @wadge78 on Twitter, is an absolutely remarkable photo for the first goal. Jack Ruddy aka 'crocodile dundee' cos he's always going walkabouts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 26 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: Jack Ruddy aka 'crocodile dundee' cos he's always going walkabouts. Well you can't say he sticks on his line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 1 hour ago, boundaryblue80 said: If Edmundson doesn’t fuck up at Fleetwood the tactics are spot on If Ruddy isn’t shit and Doyle miss an open goal against Shrewsbury the tactics are spot on Rotherham attacked our biggest weakness (full back areas) yesterday. Shez should’ve changed to a back 4...but who plays LB? Who replaces the woeful Edmundson? All the correct answers are injured. Thats a fair post, because it doesn’t just blame new players. The left wing back, getting slaughtered by some on here, played in both games and there is a very decent player in there. We def got it right at Fleetwood, I was there and thought we were the better team by far. Shrewsbury, we were unlucky. So why oh why did Shez set up that way yesterday and persist with it all afternoon?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 2 hours ago, josh_latics said: This, from @wadge78 on Twitter, is an absolutely remarkable photo for the first goal. Reminds me of this..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorvik_latic Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 1 hour ago, kowenicki said: Thats a fair post, because it doesn’t just blame new players. The left wing back, getting slaughtered by some on here, played in both games and there is a very decent player in there. We def got it right at Fleetwood, I was there and thought we were the better team by far. Shrewsbury, we were unlucky. So why oh why did Shez set up that way yesterday and persist with it all afternoon?? Like you said - we did well in the other matches, I think Shez wanted to stick with it. Rotherham were too good for us though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magister Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 7 minutes ago, jorvik_latic said: Like you said - we did well in the other matches, I think Shez wanted to stick with it. Rotherham were too good for us though. So getting 1 point out of 6 is now doing well ? ...well I suppose at 0.5 points a match it is at least better than our season average of 0.44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorvik_latic Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 18 minutes ago, Magister said: So getting 1 point out of 6 is now doing well ? ...well I suppose at 0.5 points a match it is at least better than our season average of 0.44 I didn't mean we did well results wise and you know that. We played better football and looked to be turning a corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 48 minutes ago, Magister said: So getting 1 point out of 6 is now doing well ? ...well I suppose at 0.5 points a match it is at least better than our season average of 0.44 Yeah. You’re right. That win at Bristol Rovers should be expunged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 3 hours ago, josh_latics said: This, from @wadge78 on Twitter, is an absolutely remarkable photo for the first goal. So many to blame for that goal but Bryans attempts to stop that goal summed up his whole game. Had his missus in the crowd and either was completely disinterested or when he did get it, tried a Hollywood ball rather than the right ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 3 hours ago, mikejh45 said: Just a direct question.......did you say the same when Kelly, Dunn or Robinson was in charge? Because if you play a crap formation and it doesn't work, you can't collectively blame the players!!! Completely different sets of circumstances. The players that they had werent good enough None of those 3 stood a chance from the start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magister Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, boundaryblue80 said: Yeah. You’re right. That win at Bristol Rovers should be expunged. Except that the original post referred directly to Fleetwood and Shrewsbury .......for your expunging of Bristol I raise you Oxford Blackpool, Walsall , Wigan Charlton. At the end of the Shrewsbury game which apparently showed us turning the corner our record was 1. 1. 6 . .....the game after us turning the corner finished 1-5 you're right we should concentrate on the Bristol result Edited September 24, 2017 by Magister Omitted word Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 5 hours ago, josh_latics said: This, from @wadge78 on Twitter, is an absolutely remarkable photo for the first goal. This whole 'he's a kid' point can do one too. We're losing games partly because he's not good enough. He's not one of ours anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 59 minutes ago, Magister said: Except that the original post referred directly to Fleetwood and Shrewsbury .......for your expunging of Bristol I raise you Oxford Blackpool, Walsall , Wigan Charlton. At the end of the Shrewsbury game which apparently showed us turning the corner our record was 1. 1. 6 . .....the game after us turning the corner finished 1-5 you're right we should concentrate on the Bristol result Im concentrating on the improving of the squad on Deadline day and the improvement in the side since. The fact you ignore that Shez was hand tied on signings until that day says a lot about your agenda against the man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magister Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 12 minutes ago, boundaryblue80 said: Im concentrating on the improving of the squad on Deadline day and the improvement in the side since. The fact you ignore that Shez was hand tied on signings until that day says a lot about your agenda against the man. Since Deadline day we have played 5 games...lost 3 ....conceded 15 ( FIFTEEN) and are bottom of the table....and that is an improvement? Says a lot about your denial of real events? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 2 hours ago, Magister said: Since Deadline day we have played 5 games...lost 3 ....conceded 15 ( FIFTEEN) and are bottom of the table....and that is an improvement? Says a lot about your denial of real events? The only problem in conceding 3 goals a game is that we are not yet scoring 4 every game. Cue Tuesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickjagger Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Second highest scorers in the division Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 6 hours ago, mickjagger said: Second highest scorers in the division And the worst defence in the country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejh45 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 14 hours ago, ChaddySmoker said: Completely different sets of circumstances. The players that they had werent good enough None of those 3 stood a chance from the start. Are you now saying that these players are good enough? Just for the record, I believe we have a good enough 10 players for the 1st eleven (goalkeeping excepted) when all are fit, but the formation and tactics are wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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