Stagger Lee Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Not many to choose from assuming Shez does finally change tactics. With Ryan McLaughlin out for a while and Edmundson needing to go back to the reserves, at fault or culpable for 3 goals today alone - he has been truly awful this bast 5 games or so - who does that leave us Gerrard was actually not bad today, not as bad as some boo boys make out and assuming Clarke will always be picked they will probably stay as the starting CB's but we don't seem to have much in the way of CB options. And more importantly who will be the full backs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvlatic Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Rb: hunt Clarke and Gerrard Lb: stott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stagger Lee Posted September 23, 2017 Author Share Posted September 23, 2017 Just now, rvlatic said: Rb: hunt Clarke and Gerrard Lb: stott I think Hunt is more left back and IIRC Stott is a RB ..... but I could be wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvlatic Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 1 minute ago, Stagger Lee said: I think Hunt is more left back and IIRC Stott is a RB ..... but I could be wrong Hunt is right footed and stott is left footed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Unless Dummigan is awful I'd have him at right back and Hunt at left back. Changing to a back 4 will go some way to help us. At centre back I'd go for one of Clarke or Gerrard to play alongside one of Stott or Edmundson. Wilson can fill in anywhere when fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stagger Lee Posted September 23, 2017 Author Share Posted September 23, 2017 1 minute ago, the_mighty_bosh said: Unless Dummigan is awful I'd have him at right back and Hunt at left back. Changing to a back 4 will go some way to help us. At centre back I'd go for one of Clarke or Gerrard to play alongside one of Stott or Edmundson. Wilson can fill in anywhere when fit. Watch the goals again - if you can - and then tell me Edmundson should even be in the squad - unless he was injured he should have his wages docked for the piss poor effort today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 10 minutes ago, Stagger Lee said: Watch the goals again - if you can - and then tell me Edmundson should even be in the squad - unless he was injured he should have his wages docked for the piss poor effort today Yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler13 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Wilson, Clarke, Stott, and Hunt should be the back four Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 (edited) Go back to basics with Dummigan Clarke Gerrard and Hunt. If Clarke and Gerrard have 2 mobile full backs next to them it should stop them getting caught out down the channels plus a defensive midfielder infront of them as a shield they should be ok to stand in the centre get clearness in and bark out the orders from the back. I'd then go with a diamond infront of them it didnt work at the start of the season but with the personnell we have got now it could well work with either Gardner Omrani or even Banks (yes Banks) at the base of it with Bryan on the left of a diamond and Mclaughlin on the right. Then Byrne at the head of the diamond with Doyle and Davies up top we need to keep these 3 together as it's the part of the team that's working right now. It's easy this being a message board manager lark..... Edited September 23, 2017 by GlossopLatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smiler13 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Agree with most of that but Clarke and Gerrard are that slow now that any through ball cuts them into pieces. Dummigan is true to his name. Gets drawn out of position too often and makes dumb decisions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 3 hours ago, Stagger Lee said: I think Hunt is more left back and IIRC Stott is a RB ..... but I could be wrong You are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 3 hours ago, Stagger Lee said: Not many to choose from assuming Shez does finally change tactics. With Ryan McLaughlin out for a while and Edmundson needing to go back to the reserves, at fault or culpable for 3 goals today alone - he has been truly awful this bast 5 games or so - who does that leave us Gerrard was actually not bad today, not as bad as some boo boys make out and assuming Clarke will always be picked they will probably stay as the starting CB's but we don't seem to have much in the way of CB options. And more importantly who will be the full backs? I’ve thought Gerrard has been poor at times this season but agree that he did alright today. It was our fullback positions being attacked at will that caused the problem. As for who should be in the back 4, Wilson has been solid in our defence. Dunno if he’s injured or what but he needs to be in it as soon as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 (edited) How about playing full backs who can actually defend?..struggling to find any now I ask. Edited September 23, 2017 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 I'd stick Edmundson at RB on Tuesday. Might aswell leave him in and see if he can develop.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardie Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 To say we have a 'bloated' squad for this division, we are struggling to put together a decent back four. Too many mid-fielders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, Wardie said: To say we have a 'bloated' squad for this division, we are struggling to put together a decent back four. Too many mid-fielders? All these Dutchish/Frenchish lads and not a Timmy Dieng or a Stefam Stam among them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laticfanatic1 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 3 hours ago, Smiler13 said: Wilson, Clarke, Stott, and Hunt should be the back four Couldn't agree more. Take Gerrard out until he's lost another two stone. Mouthy scouse bastard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dec666 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 5 hours ago, Stagger Lee said: Watch the goals again - if you can - and then tell me Edmundson should even be in the squad - unless he was injured he should have his wages docked for the piss poor effort today Get a grip of yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyinthesnow Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 how long ago did Holloway convert from a defender to a striker? Could he convert back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, boyinthesnow said: how long ago did Holloway convert from a defender to a striker? Could he convert back? As a teenager, when he was also playing Outside-half for a decent Rugby side. Bryan is predominantly a centre-half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 12 minutes ago, rudemedic said: Bryan is predominantly a centre-half. Could play left of a back 3, Gerrard or Clarke to drop to the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stagger Lee Posted September 24, 2017 Author Share Posted September 24, 2017 6 hours ago, GlossopLatic said: Go back to basics with Dummigan Clarke Gerrard and Hunt. If Clarke and Gerrard have 2 mobile full backs next to them it should stop them getting caught out down the channels plus a defensive midfielder in front of them as a shield they should be ok to stand in the centre get clearness in and bark out the orders from the back. I'd then go with a diamond in front of them it didn't work at the start of the season but with the personnel we have got now it could well work with either Gardner Omrani or even Banks (yes Banks) at the base of it with Bryan on the left of a diamond and Mclaughlin on the right. Then Byrne at the head of the diamond with Doyle and Davies up top we need to keep these 3 together as it's the part of the team that's working right now. 2 I agree mostly with all you said apart from the Banks bit. Though Bryan creativity deserves to be further forward I would have him in sat just in front of our CB. His timing and tackling is really classy and has a good pass on him to get the ball moving forward again. Gardener started the season well in front of our CB but that was comparing him to other midfielders like Banks and Green but the last two games he has struggled and seems to be slipping and sliding all over then being forced into poor passes. No one is arguing that we need to go to a 4 man defence I see. Shez eat your pride and change your tactics, please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 The way its going he may have to shove Holloway and Fane to centre back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejh45 Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 13 hours ago, GlossopLatic said: Go back to basics with Dummigan Clarke Gerrard and Hunt. If Clarke and Gerrard have 2 mobile full backs next to them it should stop them getting caught out down the channels plus a defensive midfielder infront of them as a shield they should be ok to stand in the centre get clearness in and bark out the orders from the back. I'd then go with a diamond infront of them it didnt work at the start of the season but with the personnell we have got now it could well work with either Gardner Omrani or even Banks (yes Banks) at the base of it with Bryan on the left of a diamond and Mclaughlin on the right. Then Byrne at the head of the diamond with Doyle and Davies up top we need to keep these 3 together as it's the part of the team that's working right now. It's easy this being a message board manager lark..... Excellent tactics...........but I have seen a problem.......a flaw...... You've put down: 4 defenders - Dummigan, Clarke, Gerrard and Hunt. 1 defensive midfield player 4 midfield players in a diamond 2 forwards Now I know that Wilson and Ruddy have been crap but I still see the need for a goalkeeper......call me old-fashioned, a dinosaur or a Luddite but most progressive coaches still feel the need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stagger Lee Posted September 24, 2017 Author Share Posted September 24, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, mikejh45 said: Excellent tactics...........but I have seen a problem.......a flaw...... You've put down: 4 defenders - Dummigan, Clarke, Gerrard and Hunt. 1 defensive midfield player 4 midfield players in a diamond 2 forwards Now I know that Wilson and Ruddy have been crap but I still see the need for a goalkeeper......call me old-fashioned, a dinosaur or a Luddite but most progressive coaches still feel the need. Ah Ah ! .... some may argue we do not have a goalkeeper at all so playing 11 outfield is the way to go Can we enable the emergency goalkeeper clause to get someone in? a bad case of dropormissallcrosses has affected our squad. Edited September 24, 2017 by Stagger Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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