deckyd Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, BP1960 said: Why did he start Benyu who has done nothing in 2 games. We score 4 goals in 45 minutes and the team is changed? He was a passanger today. Seems neat and tidy but whoever passed the ball to him got it straight back. He doesnt seem to put his foot on it or have a look, even run with it, maybe a confidence thing with him. Hopefully if he continues to play he improves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardie Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 11 minutes ago, BP1960 said: RW is talking a good game, needs to put words into league results. And if he doesn't...does the club look for a new manager...again? Would it have been any different had Scholes got the job? This team, bar a few changes, was winning. The goalscorer-in-chief went through a barren patch, got ill and then left. Doyle made a positive impact and without him, the opposite is apparent. I'm not sure what Wellens is going to do but whatever it is, the club should stick by the decision to employ him. If I was them, I would be pleading for Philiskirk to exert his influence and assist Wellens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deckyd Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, rigsby said: not helped by injuries and idiotic decisions by the players. This is true of todays game, some of the decision making is clearly lacking. Dummy is clean through in the Posh box on the right.... passes to the first man at the near post, terrible cross/pass, 3 in the middle fir a cut back. Pringle wouldnt shoot when through with right foot. And poor George, it was on the half way line. Edited January 20, 2018 by deckyd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Give Maouche a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rigsby Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Well looks like AL has a lot of work to do to get us out of the rut and away from danger. The problem is we have a very average squad and a manager who looks out of his depth to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveecky Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Having a nice footballing side is ok, but you need strong defensive players when the opposition are on top to get results. Reading a psychology book which talks about confirmation bias ie managers form an opinion about players and keep that opinion even when the evidence goes against it. Also many coaches like players who remind them of themselves as players. Good managers try to avoid those mental traits. So RW needs to consider whether he needs to go against his instincts in order to get better results and save the team from relegation. Tough CB and LB needed and a striker rather than 2 strikers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDHAM MUMPS Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 (edited) Better crosses into the box was what we needed most today though Edmondson without a older head like Clarke or Gerrard alongside him looks lost. Edited January 20, 2018 by OLDHAM MUMPS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardie Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, kowenicki said: Give Maouche a game. I think it's going to take more than that...but, I can see what you mean. 4 minutes ago, rigsby said: Well looks like AL has a lot of work to do to get us out of the rut and away from danger. The problem is we have a very average squad and a manager who looks out of his depth to me. It's not Lemsagam who has to do the work, it's Wellens who has to, before some rash decision is made and he loses his job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 RW's League form since becoming manager makes for grim reading. W3 D6 L7 PPG 0.93. PPSeason 43.Equivalent Posn last year. 22nd I believe in him, trouble is, quite a lot of it is his team now, and only limited room for maneuvre. A striker is a must, if Eoin Doyle is signed, if has a setback, we could be in trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Might be coming under the pump soon Wellens... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rigsby Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 8 minutes ago, Wardie said: I think it's going to take more than that...but, I can see what you mean. It's not Lemsagam who has to do the work, it's Wellens who has to, before some rash decision is made and he loses his job. Sorry, i meant AL has some big decisions to make- how can he persevere with a manager losing pretty much every week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rigsby Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Just now, deyres42 said: Might be coming under the pump soon Wellens... Well i dont want to say i told you so, but i did warn about RW a good 6 weeks ago- Is he still perserverring with gardner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 (edited) I know it didnt work with Paul Jewell but I think Wellens could do with an experienced number 2 in with him right now. I also think a couple of new signings will help but we need to change the emphasise onto quality over quantity. Our squad is easily big enough. The other concern is can Wellens go to or has he got a plan B? Plan A with Doyle scoring heavily was working can he change tactics to adapt to the run in which might require us to go to games like today defend hard and come away with a grubby but important 1 - 0? I think we are more than good enough to get out of it but we need to just change a few things. Edited January 20, 2018 by GlossopLatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Wardie said: And if he doesn't...does the club look for a new manager...again? Would it have been any different had Scholes got the job? This team, bar a few changes, was winning. The goalscorer-in-chief went through a barren patch, got ill and then left. Doyle made a positive impact and without him, the opposite is apparent. I'm not sure what Wellens is going to do but whatever it is, the club should stick by the decision to employ him. If I was them, I would be pleading for Philiskirk to exert his influence and assist Wellens. So you are saying we were a one man team who relied on Doyle? Managers live and die by results as you well know. Edited January 20, 2018 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardie Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, rigsby said: Sorry, i meant AL has some big decisions to make- how can he persevere with a manager losing pretty much every week? True. There will be no easy solution. How long does Wellens potentially have in terms of games remaining, as those games will soon come and go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardie Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 1 minute ago, BP1960 said: So you are saying we were a one man team re who relied on Doyle? Managers live and die by results as you well know. Not quite a one man team, BP, but more a team that seemingly played with confidence, possibly to do with the influence Doyle produced when playing up front alongside Davies. I do not believe sacking Wellens will resolve anything, unless there is a miracle worker lined-up...and I don't mean Sheridan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickjagger Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Conceding lots of goals not scoring goals, not win in 8 if all the talk of the takeover was not going on RW would of been questioned a lot earlier, calling players out in public, is he getting the most out of the current squad if the answer is no we have a serious problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, rigsby said: Well i dont want to say i told you so, but i did warn about RW a good 6 weeks ago- Is he still perserverring with gardner. You can't blame Gardner today surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Since the Blackburn game, we have won 2 league games out of 16 and sunk into the drop zone, with other teams around is picking up points and having games in hand. This is not a "Wellens Out" post by a long stretch, but questions need to be asked of him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Pringle missed a sitter at 0-0. Gardner hit the post at 0-1. Could have been a very different result. Silly red red and pushing forward meant it was 3-0. Not sure about that penalty. We desperately need a goal scorer (fit Doyle would be perfect) and PLEASE can we sign a left footed left back!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rigsby Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, BP1960 said: You can't blame Gardner today surely? Obv , but i am saying he is picking a player who is clearly not good enough, week in week out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 You just can’t dress it up anymore. Them early performances were some of best I can remember, but we concede far, far to many. We keep going a goal down. It’s hard to win matches when you always have to come from behind. It would be typical latics to get new investment- and then go down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardie Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 I'm going to have to stop looking at Twatter. Posh fans tweeting that Latics were the better team, best visiting team and stating the bleeding obvious about needing a goal scorer...then contrast that with the moronic tweets from some [not all] of the so-called 'Latics fans'. A sense of reason and some perspective is required for some folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 1 minute ago, rigsby said: Obv , but i am saying he is picking a player who is clearly not good enough, week in week out. He didn't pick him to start today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rigsby Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Just now, BP1960 said: He didn't pick him to start today. fair enough. Sounds like hes finally seen the light then.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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