BP1960 Posted July 16, 2021 Author Share Posted July 16, 2021 There is a place for this type of player in the engine room of a team. A recent example is Declan Rice who kept things ticking over for England by linking up play while protecting the defence. I'd certainy take young Saul and also Furman as his mentor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott2 Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 18 minutes ago, BP1960 said: There is a place for this type of player in the engine room of a team. A recent example is Declan Rice who kept things ticking over for England by linking up play while protecting the defence. I'd certainy take young Saul and also Furman as his mentor. Don't forget we only have room for another 3 new players in the squad. What will Milovanovic bring to the squad that Whelan doesn't...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 31 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott2 said: Don't forget we only have room for another 3 new players in the squad. What will Milovanovic bring to the squad that Whelan doesn't...? Milovanovic is more of a foil, plays deeper than whelan does/should/will. Not that Milovanovic is any less talented, he just thinks differently.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted July 16, 2021 Author Share Posted July 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Lee Sinnott2 said: Don't forget we only have room for another 3 new players in the squad. What will Milovanovic bring to the squad that Whelan doesn't...? I like Whelan, but Saul is far more composed and a better passer of the ball and one for the future as he could well go higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted July 16, 2021 Author Share Posted July 16, 2021 I thought our embargo only applied to loan players, hence none signed so far? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddyexile84 Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 16 minutes ago, BP1960 said: I thought our embargo only applied to loan players, hence none signed so far? We can't pay fees either - so in our case you are right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 I'd say we need at least one more striker and another centre mid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpo Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 2 hours ago, BP1960 said: I thought our embargo only applied to loan players, hence none signed so far? "Latics can make loan signings but only for half a season, and cannot pay fees to acquire loan players or pay additional wages on top of the salary the player receives at their parent club." Here is the original info from the announcement of the EFL rescue package in December: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted July 16, 2021 Author Share Posted July 16, 2021 19 minutes ago, Simpo said: "Latics can make loan signings but only for half a season, and cannot pay fees to acquire loan players or pay additional wages on top of the salary the player receives at their parent club." Here is the original info from the announcement of the EFL rescue package in December: Doesn't mention we are restricted in squad size though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 But we definitely are…22 I think or 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 50 minutes ago, oafc1955 said: But we definitely are…22 I think or 23 Keef in the boardroom like 'Look, we can only have 23 players due to no fault of mine as l wasnt even here, weve already got about 15 so lm making all the signings or lm not staying.' Mo just devoed we can't have another 47 man squad so starts taking pictures of Keef. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticMark Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 "Under the EFL's operational rules surrounding embargoes, clubs do have some means of strengthening their squads "to protect the integrity" of the competition. Clubs are permitted to 'staff up' so they have 23 players of professional standing, which is termed as players to have made at least one appearance for any club in any first-team competition. If they have less than 23 players they are allowed, within a transfer window, to sign free agents on a maximum of one-year deals or bring in players on loan for up to half a season. However, clubs cannot pay loan fees for players and cannot pay additional wages on top of the salary the player receives at their parent club." https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57760968 https://www.efl.com/-more/governance/embargoes/embargoes-faqs/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 41 minutes ago, LaticMark said: "Under the EFL's operational rules surrounding embargoes, clubs do have some means of strengthening their squads "to protect the integrity" of the competition. Clubs are permitted to 'staff up' so they have 23 players of professional standing, which is termed as players to have made at least one appearance for any club in any first-team competition. If they have less than 23 players they are allowed, within a transfer window, to sign free agents on a maximum of one-year deals or bring in players on loan for up to half a season. However, clubs cannot pay loan fees for players and cannot pay additional wages on top of the salary the player receives at their parent club." https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57760968 https://www.efl.com/-more/governance/embargoes/embargoes-faqs/ So we can only have 23 including loans. That doesn't leave much room for loans at all. How come every team in the league, apart from two basket cases in Swindon and Southend and us (which I don't regard as a basket case), have managed without a grant? It was probably interest free, so AL decided to use someone else's money rather than his own. I expect he will pay it back and the embargo will be lifted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, al_bro said: So we can only have 23 including loans. That doesn't leave much room for loans at all. How come every team in the league, apart from two basket cases in Swindon and Southend and us (which I don't regard as a basket case), have managed without a grant? It was probably interest free, so AL decided to use someone else's money rather than his own. I expect he will pay it back and the embargo will be lifted. Aye, the fee from Dylan or the solidarity payments, whichever comes first, what a club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpo Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, al_bro said: So we can only have 23 including loans. That doesn't leave much room for loans at all. How come every team in the league, apart from two basket cases in Swindon and Southend and us (which I don't regard as a basket case), have managed without a grant? It was probably interest free, so AL decided to use someone else's money rather than his own. I expect he will pay it back and the embargo will be lifted. Receive free money, and also run the playing staff on the cheap. Win-win for Abdallah Lemsagam... If I'm honest I'm a little surprised there wasn't more take-up of the monitored grant/"loan". Maybe you have to prove your finances are really precarious to be eligible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted July 16, 2021 Author Share Posted July 16, 2021 51 minutes ago, al_bro said: So we can only have 23 including loans. That doesn't leave much room for loans at all. How come every team in the league, apart from two basket cases in Swindon and Southend and us (which I don't regard as a basket case), have managed without a grant? It was probably interest free, so AL decided to use someone else's money rather than his own. I expect he will pay it back and the embargo will be lifted. How long can AL realistically continue if he doesnt pay loans back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Simpo said: Receive free money, and also run the playing staff on the cheap. Win-win for Abdallah Lemsagam... If I'm honest I'm a little surprised there wasn't more take-up of the monitored grant/"loan". Maybe you have to prove your finances are really precarious to be eligible. There may have been more take up but others have paid it back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpo Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 23 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: There may have been more take up but others have paid it back Gotcha, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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