MATCH: Solihull Moors (H) 28/08/23

[mcfluff1985]

 

 

Where are those saying we created nowt. Plenty there should have been scored by us. At least 4

[yarddog73]

1 minute ago, mcfluff1985 said:

 

He never touched that lad. Was a blatant attempt to get him sent off

Well it worked eventually didn't it.

 

Regardless Fondop got himself sent off, brainless behaviour on his part sliding in from the side in the middle of the park, it was almost as if he did it on purpose. He can't be the brightest.

 

 

[GlossopLatic]

2 hours ago, frizzell54 said:

Just that a lot of talk about blocking, so I wondered how it’s done on the site, do you just shut your eyes when you see a post from the offensive person.

 

Click on the 3 bars in the top right hand corner. Then select account go to ignored users then simply type the name of the person you want to ignore.

 

I do use it but use it sparingly I won't do it to everyone who disagrees with me that's just daft it's important that you have people in your life who challenge your point of view but just the ones who do it intelligently. I stick someone on ignore if I think they are abit of a twat. Just because everyone is entitled to an opinion it doesn't mean I have to listen to them. People can ignore mine if they want it's only a message board and I don't know any of you. I just post my thoughts sometimes I put more thought into some posts than others like that one I did further up, those ones seem to get a better reaction.

Edited August 29, 2023 by GlossopLatic

[Le miserable1]

2 minutes ago, yarddog73 said:

Well it worked eventually didn't it.

 

Regardless Fondop got himself sent off, brainless behaviour on his part sliding in from the side in the middle of the park, it was almost as if he did it on purpose. He can't be the brightest.

 

 

 

[Le miserable1]

The ultimate arbiter on discipline is the manager,he is the one who sets the rules with his players.Disipline is going to play a big part this season,Hogan can’t be far from a ban after 6 games,sorry but that belongs to the manager,and needs sorting immediately.

[LightDN123]

16 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said:

 

Played 433 Monday

And he's doing well

Have we? Got 1 extra

 

Won't be held to ransom if can't agree a fee we feel is reasonable should we just throw everything at it? Give new one time to get fit. Sutton did well yesterday 

He can play there or left 

Not only is that have got tired of his attitude

Played Reid yesterday and benched nuttall

He can play out wide

 

More on Tollitt than anyone else

You clamouring for him to play?

 

Played well there yesterday

 

Created loads yesterday

 

Agreed

 

 

 

 

 

 

He never touched that lad. Was a blatant attempt to get him sent off

Yeah you’re right. Sitting cosy one place out the relegation spots thanks to HMRC. Up the Unsy. 

[mcfluff1985]

3 minutes ago, LightDN123 said:

Yeah you’re right. Sitting cosy one place out the relegation spots thanks to HMRC. Up the Unsy. 

So what was I wrong about in my replies?

[mcfluff1985]

14 minutes ago, yarddog73 said:

Well it worked eventually didn't it.

 

Regardless Fondop got himself sent off, brainless behaviour on his part sliding in from the side in the middle of the park, it was almost as if he did it on purpose. He can't be the brightest.

 

 

 

Yep. Stupid for a grown man and a professional 

 

11 minutes ago, GlossopLatic said:

 

Click on the 3 bars in the top right hand corner. Then select account go to ignored users then simply type the name of the person you want to ignore.

 

I do use it but use it sparingly I won't do it to everyone who disagrees with me that's just daft it's important that you have people in your life who challenge your point of view but just the ones who do it intelligently. I stick someone on ignore if I think they are abit of a twat. Just because everyone is entitled to an opinion it doesn't mean I have to listen to them. People can ignore mine if they want it's only a message board and I don't know any of you. I just post my thoughts sometimes I put more thought into some posts than others like that one I did further up, those ones seem to get a better reaction.

 

Can you read this?

[Le miserable1]

When Fondop was booked in the first minute I turned to my brother and said he will be sent off today.The fact the ref booked him in the first minute should have sent alarm bells ringing in the coaching staff.Now has Unsworth pointed out to the team that the new directive will be adhered to,and they will have to be very careful,and has he commissioned a report on the behaviour of the referee’s that are likely to officiate in this league,because he should,small things add up.

[LightDN123]

3 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said:

So what was I wrong about in my replies?

To be honest, I can’t be arsed replying you to your responses. We won’t ever agree you back him to the hilt to the point of delusion. 
 

You probably think I want him gone and will never change my mind (I would if results improved). 
 

You make a few valid responses, but I don’t agree with the majority. 

[mcfluff1985]

Just now, LightDN123 said:

To be honest, I can’t be arsed replying you to your responses. We won’t ever agree you back him to the hilt to the point of delusion. 
 

You probably think I want him gone and will never change my mind (I would if results improved). 
 

You make a few valid responses, but I don’t agree with the majority. 

Every point I've made there is valid. I don't back him to the hilt. I've said same as a few others. 10/15 games. 

 

Just because I don't blame everything on Unsworth...

[Theoutsider]

5 hours ago, kowenicki said:

Which bit? 

I was replying as though you were BP1960 and a Dan Gardner fan

[LightDN123]

30 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said:

 

Played 433 Monday

You missed the point of the issue. 443 isn’t the issue. Signing 5 strikes that play centrally and having very few wingers able to play that formation is baffling. Surely you agree you recruit to your favoured formation so you can create your vision and style of play as a manager ? 

 

30 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said:

And he's doing well

Again you miss the point. Dickinson has looked okay in centre mid. But he’s been signed to play left mid and cover the left back position. Yet due to any lack of structure in our recruitment, probably as a result of the above point, he’s being forced to play out of position within the first few weeks of signing ? 

 

30 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said:

Have we? Got 1 extra

The plan was Hobson and Hogan. Raglan was unexpected signing, he said it himself. Sutton and McGahey to come back in. We signed and extra centre back when the priority was a right back. 

 

30 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said:

 

Won't be held to ransom if can't agree a fee we feel is reasonable should we just throw everything at it? Give new one time to get fit.

No I’m not having that. We are trying to sign a right back to play in the national league. Not a World Cup winner. They have had all last season and pre season to find a right back. Honestly pathetic we didn’t get one. 
 

Freeman might come good. But he will be up to fitness when his contract runs out in 6 months time and leaves. He’s hardly kicked a ball last few years, on paper a solid signing. Not a planned and strategic signing. 

 

 

30 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said:

Sutton did well yesterday

Yes, Sutton is a competent right back. I said right wing back, to VERY different positions. To be a wing back, an effective one, is such a niche and specialised role that you won’t get many player between the national league and league 1 who play it effectively. To play a young centre back there is a sackable offence imo. 

 

 

30 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said:

He can play there or left

He’s predominately a left sided player. That’s a fact. 

 

30 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said:

Not only is that have got tired of his attitude

I don’t understand your point here. Rooney if managed effectively is a quality player in this league. Unsy signed him, didn’t play him, but then played him in a 442 on the left wing ? Can’t blame him for being annoyed when he’s a proven what he can do playing behind the striker in this league. Scored goals for fun and 2 player of the seasons, mismanaged. 

 

30 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said:

Played Reid yesterday and benched nuttall

He played Reid out wide. Not what he was signed for. He had no choice because of point 1 above. 

 

30 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said:

He can play out wide

So can Sheron. Doesn’t mean he should be played out wide or that’s what we signed him for ? 

 

30 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said:

 

More on Tollitt than anyone else

Tollitt was our best player when he initially came in. He’s a goal threat and can score. He has his faults but he’s lucky if he makes the squad. But as Unsy said, he’s a free spirit and Unsy don’t like anyone who doesn’t follow his structure. Too busy trying to set him up with his daughter, if he has one. 

 

30 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said:

You clamouring for him to play?

Hope is extremely limited, but Shez got him scoring. Would I want him to play ? No. Would I have offered him a one year extension? Never. The last part is the issue. 

 

30 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said:

 

Played well there yesterday

Thing this related to Sutton, see above. 

 

 

30 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said:

 

Created loads yesterday

Loads is subjective. We created a few chances, I actually think we would have won if it wasn’t for Mike. But they looked very very poor so not creating anything against them would have been a worry. Was it fast and dynamic ? I’m not sure about that

 

30 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said:

 

Agreed

We agree on something then

 

30 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[LightDN123]

21 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said:

Every point I've made there is valid. I don't back him to the hilt. I've said same as a few others. 10/15 games. 

 

Just because I don't blame everything on Unsworth...

Who do you blame out of interest ? 
 

I don’t think it’s blame. But at the end of the day, he’s the manager, he makes the decisions, that’s his job and he rightly or wrongly takes responsibility. 
 

Are you blaming the analyst for not pointing out the left winger cuts in every time he gets the ball in a certain position ? Baz for not getting the players fit enough for a game ? 
 

I don’t really know who you are blaming. 

[johnboy]

would you beleive fondop is a clever bloke.he has a electronic degree.but no brain.24 hrs later i am see seething at his stupidity.he should be told t look for another club.

[mcfluff1985]

10 minutes ago, LightDN123 said:

Who do you blame out of interest ? 
 

I don’t think it’s blame. But at the end of the day, he’s the manager, he makes the decisions, that’s his job and he rightly or wrongly takes responsibility. 
 

Are you blaming the analyst for not pointing out the left winger cuts in every time he gets the ball in a certain position ? Baz for not getting the players fit enough for a game ? 
 

I don’t really know who you are blaming. 

Just look at things people have blamed him for. A grown man getting himself sent off. Why didn't we sub a player after 30 seconds? Ridiculous 

 

They've had a go cos Green got subbed even though he's coming back from injury. 

 

People have had a go cos Sutton wasn't playing but he was suspended. 

 

Had a go cos Nuttall was playing. Then because he wasn't instead of Fondop

 

Had a go cos haven't signed a rb early enough. Surely you want the right one. Not ANY one. 

 

People having a go cos lad who didn't play for a year wasn't fit enough to play 2 games in 3 days with no preseason.

 

So much absolute shite spouted on here.

 

People having a go cos Willoughby is played out wide. He CAN play out wide

 

So much bullshit

[LightDN123]

5 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said:

Just look at things people have blamed him for. A grown man getting himself sent off. Why didn't we sub a player after 30 seconds? Ridiculous 

 

They've had a go cos Green got subbed even though he's coming back from injury. 

 

People have had a go cos Sutton wasn't playing but he was suspended. 

 

Had a go cos Nuttall was playing. Then because he wasn't instead of Fondop

 

Had a go cos haven't signed a rb early enough. Surely you want the right one. Not ANY one. 

 

People having a go cos lad who didn't play for a year wasn't fit enough to play 2 games in 3 days with no preseason.

 

So much absolute shite spouted on here.

 

People having a go cos Willoughby is played out wide. He CAN play out wide

 

So much bullshit

I mean you don’t really say who you’re blaming, just listing points you don’t agree with, admittedly some are comments I don’t agree with some are.
 

Okay, so who/what do you blame for the situation we are in ?  

[mcfluff1985]

Just now, LightDN123 said:

I mean you don’t really say who you’re blaming, just listing points you don’t agree with, admittedly some are comments I don’t agree with some are.
 

Okay, so who/what do you blame for the situation we are in ?  

Why does someone need to be blamed? Ridiculous that people feel the need to blame one person

[LightDN123]

15 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said:

Why does someone need to be blamed? Ridiculous that people feel the need to blame one person

He’s a football manager, of course he takes the blame for results and you know he does. 
 

What groups of people do you blame them ? 

Edited August 29, 2023 by LightDN123

[mcfluff1985]

Just now, LightDN123 said:

He’s a football manager, of course he takes the blame for results and you know he does. 

No blame for Fondop? No blame at the feet of Reid and Shelton?

[LightDN123]

1 minute ago, mcfluff1985 said:

No blame for Fondop? No blame at the feet of Reid and Shelton?

Yes. But you are isolating blame to one game. Those things are fine in isolation. But over a period of time you have to start looking at the manager ? 

[mcfluff1985]

9 hours ago, LightDN123 said:

Yes. But you are isolating blame to one game. Those things are fine in isolation. But over a period of time you have to start looking at the manager ? 

And you haven't given this season  what I'd class as "a period". So when you have, then start looking to point fingers

[Londonboy]

3 hours ago, mcfluff1985 said:

And you haven't given this season  what I'd class as "a period". So when you have, then start looking to point fingers

Your struggling here mcfluff!!

LightDN is winning the debate hands down !!

 

If you want to change something that's clearly not working within your organisation, one of the first things you need to do is identify what and who is responsible.

Generally that person tends to be someone higher up the organisation and a leader.

Yes you can debate if that person has had the resources required (yes 100%) and enough time (a year now so ??) to effect things, and there will always be some sort of mitigation ie. When he came in the club was in dire straights.

However in a results driven business the book stops with the person responsible for delivering...or not delivering in this case, and that my friend is our manager.

You can't be blaming individuals or bad luck (should have, would have mentality) all of the time which is what he and you are doing 

 

 

 

 

[LightDN123]

3 hours ago, mcfluff1985 said:

And you haven't given this season  what I'd class as "a period". So when you have, then start looking to point fingers

You are giving him the season then ? Fair enough.

 

Im firmly in the want him out but want him to prove me wrong. I don’t think that’s unreasonable. 

[nzlatic]

21 minutes ago, LightDN123 said:

You are giving him the season then ? Fair enough.

 

Im firmly in the want him out but want him to prove me wrong. I don’t think that’s unreasonable. 

It's not unreasonable at all to want him sacked now but to want to be wrong about that. It's also not unreasonable for other people to accept that the board want to give him more time and understand their reasons for that. There's probably also crossover in those 2 opinions.

 

Unfortunately, there are people who just will not accept that others have a different view. And will not accept that there's a possibility they might be wrong. Anyone can hold a strong belief, but when it comes to something like this they can't know with 100% certainty that they're right.