JoshOWTB Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31002710 More good press... Article paints us (and Corney) in a really bad light. Am I right in thinking there was video evidence he was happy to fix matches? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 (edited) Wonder who this was...?!? Recalling the morning he became aware of the allegations, Montano said: "The Oldham manager (Lee Johnson) called me. He said: 'Have you seen what I'm seeing?' I said: 'Yes.' "I was in London and I said I wanted to come back up to Manchester to talk to him. He said he would come to my house in Manchester, I said: 'Ok, that's great.' Then, a few minutes later, a director at Oldham called me, asking where I was. "I told him I had spoken to the manager and I was going to make my way back to Manchester with my family to see him. He said: 'That's great but where are you?' I told him I was at my uncle's in north London. "He put the phone down and rang again, asking where I was, my address. "I said I was in Tottenham. He said: 'But where?' So I told him the address. I also told him I was about to make my way up to Manchester. Then I put the phone down and got in the shower. The minute I got out, the police were at the house." Montano added: "I was shocked. Oldham were the only ones who had that address because I had given it to them on the phone. All I could think was: 'Why?'" Edited January 27, 2015 by oafcmetty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simoncorneyisgod Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Wonder who this was...?!? Recalling the morning he became aware of the allegations, Montano said: "The Oldham manager (Lee Johnson) called me. He said: 'Have you seen what I'm seeing?' I said: 'Yes.' "I was in London and I said I wanted to come back up to Manchester to talk to him. He said he would come to my house in Manchester, I said: 'Ok, that's great.' Then, a few minutes later, a director at Oldham called me, asking where I was. "I told him I had spoken to the manager and I was going to make my way back to Manchester with my family to see him. He said: 'That's great but where are you?' I told him I was at my uncle's in north London. "He put the phone down and rang again, asking where I was, my address. "I said I was in Tottenham. He said: 'But where?' So I told him the address. I also told him I was about to make my way up to Manchester. Then I put the phone down and got in the shower. The minute I got out, the police were at the house." Montano added: "I was shocked. Oldham were the only ones who had that address because I had given it to them on the phone. All I could think was: 'Why?'" Pretty easy to work out who.......though don't say it out loud you might get sued! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 People tend to give your address out when the cops ask for it so they can arrest you. Or so I heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snookmeister Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 (edited) He was caught on camera clearly admitting to trying to cheat. What did he expect the club to do??? Edited January 31, 2015 by Snookmeister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayItLivo Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 We should offer him a contract if he's been cleared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddy_Ender Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 (edited) People tend to give your address out when the cops ask for it so they can arrest you. Or so I heard. Like he would of been difficult to find ??? It seems almost unbelievable that we would be even contemplating signing Evans if the board held such a strong view against Montano who at that time had only been accused, its starting to look a little suspect when you hear Montanos view point. Edited January 27, 2015 by Chaddy_Ender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIZZO83 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 WHY DOESNT HE MENTION GETTING CAUGHT ON CAMERA TRYING TO GET BOOKED FOR CASH!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayItLivo Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Like he would of been difficult to find ??? It seems almost unbelievable that we would be even contemplating signing Evans if the board held such a strong view against Montano who at that time had only been accused, its starting to look a little suspect when you hear Montanos view point. Evans is much better player than Montano. The moral high ground the club took when trying to defend the signing was just a convenient excuse. We wanted Evans because he was a 20+ goalscoring striker going on a free, not to make a social statement in favour of ex-cons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 He was caught on camera clearly admitting to trying to cheating. What did he expect the club to do??? Innocent until proven guilty, Daniel... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twisbrogan Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Like he would of been difficult to find ??? It seems almost unbelievable that we would be even contemplating signing Evans if the board held such a strong view against Montano who at that time had only been accused, its starting to look a little suspect when you hear Montanos view point. Not really. The argument has nothing to do with the morals surrounding employing criminals convicted or otherwise. The club knew of Evans' conviction and were going to offer him a job - without going over it all again, the conviction actually has nothing to do with his footballing career. Montano was on video allegedly saying he was acting as a footballer, whilst we were paying him, trying to do something illegal. The problem we're faced with is whether any of that footage is permissible or if it has been discredited to the extent it can't form any part of our case/argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 (edited) SC has said in the past as we all know, that Montano wasn't sacked for spot fixing, but for constant breaches of club discipline. Edited January 27, 2015 by al_bro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latics and England Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 It's intetresting that accourding to the article, when asked if he had taken money or attempted to fix a match (or part of a match) he chose to state that he had never accepted any money. There is no reference to him answering the other half of the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddy_Ender Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 (edited) As the evidence collected was from a less than reputable source my guess is that it will be worth sweet fa in a court of law, he was sacked within hours of being arrested so its fair to assume he will be playing on this in any future hearing, what happened to the other wrongly arrested I take it they where hung out to dry by their employer ? Edited January 27, 2015 by Chaddy_Ender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 As the evidence collected was from a less than reputable source my guess is that it will be worth sweet fa in a court of law, he was sacked within hours of being arrested so its fair to assume he will be playing on this in any future hearing, what happened to the other wrongly arrested I take it they where hung out to dry by their employer ? None of the other clubs had video evidence of their player boasting about the whole scenario, as far as I'm aware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorvik_latic Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 It's intetresting that accourding to the article, when asked if he had taken money or attempted to fix a match (or part of a match) he chose to state that he had never accepted any money. There is no reference to him answering the other half of the question. That's what I thought. It could be a clever answer in that he wasn't offered money as such but possibly the clearing of a debt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Montano would have to do something spectacular to change my opinion of him due to the video footage, regardless of the case being dropped. But at the time I trusted that the board had done their due diligence and had thoroughly consulted any legal advice before deciding to sack him so soon. After recent events I trust the club a lot less than at that time. I don't fully agree with Montano's double standards claim either, but the pursuit of Evans has made it easy for that claim to be levelled at the club. Yet another reason why we shouldn't have tried to sign Evans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Evan had nothing to do with the club when Montana was sacked. He isn't relevant (thank :censored:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 The club gave the police his whereabouts? Good. So they should. It's a shame he didn't get the opportunity to clear his name in court. As it stands the evidence I've seen makes me think he's a cheating scumbag who wasn't doing his best for the paying supporter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 The club gave the police his whereabouts? Good. So they should. It's a shame he didn't get the opportunity to clear his name in court. As it stands the evidence I've seen makes me think he's a cheating scumbag who wasn't doing his best for the paying supporter. Sums it all up for me. Just play the video of the Wolverhampton match, no further questions your honour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 He was making an impact at the time. We did hang him out to dry a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Sums it all up for me. Just play the video of the Wolverhampton match, no further questions your honour. The powers that be obviously haven't seen enough from that to get a charge to stick though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hands on Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Yes lets be careful about what we write because the report says: "Montano was asked directly if he had ever been involved in fixing or accepted money to fix any part of a football match. "I never accepted money, I never had any intention to do that, never," he said. "I never in a million years thought about taking money, I have never thought about doing anything like that in football, never." The report could be wrong just as the video 'evidence' could be wrong. You can't trust what you hear or see these days but you can make up your own mind particularly if you also attended the game in question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hands on Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 On a completely separate subject if a professional football player boast about doing something, which detracts from wining a game, and the evidence of your eyes supports the boast what action should the football club take? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 FWIW- the club may have been in breach of Data Protection by revealing where he was. Especially over the phone. If he wasn't at his address on record and he wasn't at work and as he wasn't likely to commit a crime with a risk of public safety the unnamed Director (although I bet we would all guess the same person) should have advised him to hand himself in when he spoke to him. That trick of finding out where he was and then telling the police is certainly "Not doing things the right way" That Director is a #badgrass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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