yarddog73 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Chron says that Connor brown is coming in at left back Deary me, bang goes any attacking intent on the left flank, seems I was right all along with regards to the Mills/Dunn situation doesn't it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Deary me, bang goes any attacking intent on the left flank, seems I was right all along with regards to the Mills/Dunn situation doesn't it!! I was told a couple of months back that Mills refused to have an op in the summer saying he felt with a pre-season behind him he would be alright. He went off on holiday instead. The club were less than impressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super_blue Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Chron says mills and J Wilson maybe ones to go out the door. That would free up some decent money. I'm sure Dunn has someone lined up and that's why he only gave eckersley an additional month. Brown wasn't even on the bench last match so he isn't the long term option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceStationLatic Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Well if the rumours are true about questions being asked by the board, and Blitz (who showed up earlier in the year) and Gazal (at the last game and said to be going tomorrow) still pondering a say... There will be a lot of pressure on Corney to relent on his loyalty to Dunn if we lose. However, action would need to be taken spectacularly quickly - arguably making dramatic change very unlikely. A rushed appointment could be costly - although I know rushed for Latics would be two months..! Hence, if a change does happen I can only see it being Dowie - who told the paper he wanted the job a while back, and was talking terms when Corney suddenly went hot on Kelly. It would fit the bill as a quick fix to get the fans on side..would it? Would he still have decent contacts/respect from his work with Sky? Would he be simply better at motivating the players we have - if you take the view that steps seemingly haven't been taken forward ever since Holden was in interim charge? Or do we wheel and deal under Dunn and hope better players, who we hope he knows, can get us out this mess even if the coaching is questionable? And then we reassess in the summer? Would a potential successor need to be quizzed on the sly about who they would/could sign and why? If there's confidence in Dunn's targets (rumoured board opposition would suggest otherwise), the club could get the players and then make a change if results don't improve. I'd say we are one to two games away from being cut adrift in the bottom four. Games in hand or not, it would be extremely difficult from there - no matter what ppl say about this many games left etc we might make changes and signings, but so will other clubs. And we're already a transfer window behind after summer's cock-up, and don't have the resources to make up that gap - although Kelly's sale may help. Defeat tomorrow and we really are in the mire. And whatever route we take, it's a big gamble after recent ones (Kelly, Ched, Fuller) have all failed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 He might just decide to leave Louis Van Gaal style. Well we certainly need the team to be playing for him v Colchester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Well if the rumours are true about questions being asked by the board, and Blitz (who showed up earlier in the year) and Gazal (at the last game and said to be going tomorrow) still pondering a say... There will be a lot of pressure on Corney to relent on his loyalty to Dunn if we lose. What's it got to do with Blitz or Gazal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Chron says mills and J Wilson maybe ones to go out the door. Doesn't seem the end of the world that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickjagger Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 All i hear is talk talk talk about Wilson, he just needs to be loved, please tell me why? I'll be satisified if he gets another chance, i get the sweetest feeling he would have cracking 2nd part of the season, i think he could be crucial in taking us higher & higher, so far all i hear is whispers !!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristolatic Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Defeat tomorrow and we really are in the mire. I'd be happy if we played tomorrow. Colchester won't turn up until Saturday. On a more serious note, though, a 6 pointer at this stage of the season is unthinkable, but it's what we've got. With regards binning off Dunn, I don't think it would do any good right now. To sack another manager within the first 4 months of the season starting would, IMO, undermine the entire team. Obviously confidence is most likely at an all time low, but now is the time to galvanise and pull together, not start making a change that drastic. Look at it this way. If Dunn is sacked after Colchester, who the hell do you bring in that could immediately use the transfer window to improve the side? I'd rather wait to see what he does with the resources he's got and hope to God it comes off. But don't expect stellar signings; we haven't got the dosh for that sort of player and FFP hits us in the pocket with our financial turnover being what it is. By the way, when do I start a thread specifically for those that want to moan about undisclosed fees? It's the way football is nowadays. Only the multi-million pound deals are disclosed, so let's forget what we get and what we pay for players. Just support what we've got, take your shoes off, face Mecca and pray for a resurgent second half of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Pissing down again. Could it be in doubt...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceStationLatic Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 (edited) I'd be happy if we played tomorrow. Colchester won't turn up until Saturday. On a more serious note, though, a 6 pointer at this stage of the season is unthinkable, but it's what we've got. With regards binning off Dunn, I don't think it would do any good right now. To sack another manager within the first 4 months of the season starting would, IMO, undermine the entire team. Obviously confidence is most likely at an all time low, but now is the time to galvanise and pull together, not start making a change that drastic. Look at it this way. If Dunn is sacked after Colchester, who the hell do you bring in that could immediately use the transfer window to improve the side? I'd rather wait to see what he does with the resources he's got and hope to God it comes off. But don't expect stellar signings; we haven't got the dosh for that sort of player and FFP hits us in the pocket with our financial turnover being what it is. By the way, when do I start a thread specifically for those that want to moan about undisclosed fees? It's the way football is nowadays. Only the multi-million pound deals are disclosed, so let's forget what we get and what we pay for players. Just support what we've got, take your shoes off, face Mecca and pray for a resurgent second half of the season. Lol good point. That's the dilemma. But do you give money to a manager who hasn't impressed or shown an ability to improve the players, or do you believe that it's the players' fault. It's bleak whichever way you look at it, but, if we are selling Kelly and then bringing say one or two in, you are still relying on Dunn to motivate and improve those players who are here now or are fringe first framers now. And he hasn't suggested he can do that at all - the opposite, concerningly, has occurred. What worries me is the decline of the likes of Winchester, the chopping and changing, the way players have disappeared without trace (Rasulo, Coleman, Yeates not starting) after seemingly impressing. There just isn't any cohesion and the constant changes smacks of a guy jumping from one plan to the next, with each one failing. A new guy would need to have players lined up. But if I was a manager out of work and wanting a job, I would be attending games, researching, and already have targets in mind. That's what LJ did before he got the job with us. It's what Redfearn was doing also. Edited December 31, 2015 by IceStationLatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceStationLatic Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 What's it got to do with Blitz or Gazal? Don't they still have a stake in the club? Even less likely to get any of their dosh back at all if we get relegated, lose another 1000 off the gate, and become even less attractive to potential buyers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 All i hear is talk talk talk about Wilson, he just needs to be loved, please tell me why? I'll be satisified if he gets another chance, i get the sweetest feeling he would have cracking 2nd part of the season, i think he could be crucial in taking us higher & higher, so far all i hear is whispers !!!!!!!!!!!! I wouldn’t think twice and have no pity, so that’s why there’ll be no next time to light my fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Don't they still have a stake in the club? Even less likely to get any of their dosh back at all if we get relegated, lose another 1000 off the gate, and become even less attractive to potential buyers? Corney owns 97%. The Trust own 3%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 All i hear is talk talk talk about Wilson, he just needs to be loved, please tell me why? I'll be satisified if he gets another chance, i get the sweetest feeling he would have cracking 2nd part of the season, i think he could be crucial in taking us higher & higher, so far all i hear is whispers !!!!!!!!!!!! If Dunn did his next interview completely in puns would you donate a sizeable amount of money to playershare?? Seriously though keep them coming, there aren't many things even vaguely related to Latics worth smiling about at the moment! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimeblue Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Pissing down again. Could it be in doubt...? Fingers crossed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted December 31, 2015 Share Posted December 31, 2015 Pissing down again. Could it be in doubt...? Only light rain, disappointing I know, but you will have to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 The team I'd play tomorrow: Coleman/Cornell (not fussed either way) Dummigan B Wilson Dieng Mills Philliskirk Wellens (assuming that Kelly won't play) Jones Yeates Rasulo Murphy What I think we'll play: Cornell Dummigan B Wilson Dieng Brown Winchester Philliskirk Wellens Jones Cassidy Murphy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super_blue Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 The team I'd play tomorrow: Coleman/Cornell (not fussed either way) Dummigan B Wilson Dieng Mills Philliskirk Wellens (assuming that Kelly won't play) Jones Yeates Rasulo Murphy What I think we'll play: Cornell Dummigan B Wilson Dieng Brown Winchester Philliskirk Wellens Jones Cassidy Murphy Murphy is not a lone striker that has been proved. He needs to be part of a 2 up top! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
losesome Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Murphy is not a lone striker that has been proved. He needs to be part of a 2 up top! 2 up top , 442 dont be silly . Only stupid teams with stupid managers like Leicester play 442 now and what have they done - oh wait !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsPete Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Well we played two up top against Doncaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickjagger Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Are the players mobile enough to play 4 4 2 to combat being over run in midfield? Example given Leicester have pace & mobility in abundance and long may it continue for them, it's refreshing to see attacking football rather than cautious football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Murphy is not a lone striker that has been proved. He needs to be part of a 2 up top! Hopefully in that formation Rasulo will be so far advanced that he will effectively play like a 2nd striker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 (edited) Hopefully in that formation Rasulo will be so far advanced that he will effectively play like a 2nd striker. Rasulo needs to be played behind a front two to give him the options to create chances. Edited January 1, 2016 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted January 1, 2016 Share Posted January 1, 2016 Rasulo needs to be played behind a front two to give him the options to create chances. Fitting the other 7 outfield players around that is the difficult part. The only time I've seen that work for us was when Gary McDonald played that position in Shez's first season, he could only do that because Wellens at his peak did everything else in midfield. Kelly might be able to do that role but it's unlikely that he'll be around for much longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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