Dave_Og Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 How did Dieng play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneSizeFitz Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Yet again you miss the pertinent point. He could score! His career goalscoring record is far inferior to Mckay's... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 How did Dieng play? Decent. Got forward a bit more too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted August 29, 2016 Share Posted August 29, 2016 Me. And me. Our fixtures weren't the hardest that could have been put together... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 And me. Our fixtures weren't the hardest that could have been put together...When the fixtures were released the general consensus was that Millwall away followed by Walsall at home was a tough start. So it proved to be. Furthermore, Bradford away was always going to be difficult. Sandwiched in between we had Bury and Northampton. I'd say six points is a decent return given our pre-season. Two home league games to come against middling teams. I expect to have doubled our points tally when they are done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 When the fixtures were released the general consensus was that Millwall away followed by Walsall at home was a tough start. So it proved to be. Furthermore, Bradford away was always going to be difficult. Sandwiched in between we had Bury and Northampton. I'd say six points is a decent return given our pre-season. I agree but if we were ever not playing for 6 points or more from 5 games of football whatever the circumstances it would be time to give up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 I agree but if we were ever not playing for 6 points or more from 5 games of football whatever the circumstances it would be time to give up. I doubt that we were playing for 6 points. Robinson strikes me as the type of guy that is playing to win all games, some in different ways from others. And if penalty decisions had gone our way then we probably would have won on Saturday despite being up against it for most of the game. 6 points is a decent return from the games we've had so far given the pre season and I'm happy with it. But if you'd offered me 6 points at the start of the season, in that old hypothetical cliche, I wouldn't have taken it. We should always be aiming for more than that. But we're in a better position than I thought we'd be, we're playing well according to most and more importantly the manager seems totally switched on about what needs to improve. He's completely correct to focus firstly on the defence. Someone said earlier about the lack of goals from strikers putting pressure on the defence. I disagree, I think the quality of the defence will take the pressure off the strikers and the goals will come eventually. If we look what happened last season, how often did we play reasonably well for 20 minutes, not score, then concede a ridiculous goal and go on to lose because everyone started panicking? There are a lot of positives so far, and a few negatives. The big plus for me is that Robinson seems to class those positives as what he expects from them every game, and he's fully aware of, and working on, the negatives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 And me. Our fixtures weren't the hardest that could have been put together... I'd have said they were about as tricky as you could possibly get. 3rd, 4th and 5th from last season in the first five fixtures? Plus the winners of the division below on a 25 game unbeaten streak... Bury were the only weaker one, but even then an away fixture was never going to be easy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Thats an accurate observation, he does need to learn to get on the right side of opponents and I imagine the coaching staff are working on that aspect. Something that many ignored in Diengs game last season when he was playing at the back! he got away with it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Guru Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 6 points from 5 is 55 points over the course of the season...our usual 17th- 20th spot is nailed on for another year! ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 (edited) Something that many ignored in Diengs game last season when he was playing at the back! he got away with it... Fane is far worse for it, imo. Fortunately his athleticism gets him out of trouble higher up the pitch, but in and around the box he'll be a liability Edited August 30, 2016 by NewBlue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Fane is far worse for it, imo. Fortunately his athleticism gets him out of trouble higher up the pitch, but in and around the box he'll be a liability You're assuming he'll receive no coaching or advice around this area of his game. Good one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 You're assuming he'll receive no coaching or advice around this area of his game. Good one How am I? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 How am I? Well you're saying he will just be a liability in and around the box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Well you're saying he will just be a liability in and around the box. Until it's fixed, yes he will These things don't fix themselves overnight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Until it's fixed, yes he will These things don't fix themselves overnight Difference between criticism and constructive criticism. I reckon Robbo and his coaching team know what they're doing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewBlue Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Difference between criticism and constructive criticism. I reckon Robbo and his coaching team know what they're doing You got his number so I can give him a bell about how he can improve? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nonaenever Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Make your mind up, according to our interaction on the other thread all the stayaways (such as myself) are staying away for trivial reasons, but now they need "a lot of convincing" to come back - which suggests the reasons they are staying away are not trivial! Yesterday's away following (less than 700) reminded me of the away game at Town which I think was 09/10 under Sheridan where not only did we batter them but I seem to recall we took well over 2000 as the away end was rammed. You can stick your head in the sand all you like and pooh pooh people's reasons for not going, but that away turnout yesterday was very poor and symptomatic of the club's demise under Corney. Why does me writing "need a lot of convincing" suggest your reasons are not trivial? You were mentioning people stopping supporting Latics because the Clayton Arms had gone and the Ford Stand (Lookers) had been demolished. NOT reasons to stop supporting Latics in my humble opinion. Think we took over 3,000 to Huddersfield that year and yes - a cracking performance by us. Tonight's was awful - but as I'm not a fair weather supporter, I`ll take it on the chin and be shouting for them again come Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Blue Peter badge Is in the post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nonaenever Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Cheers - worth a fortune them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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