BP1960 Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 (edited) How does that work? If we have proved we can't the bills so to speak and by bills I'm encompassing any outgoings with regards to the club, how can this be approved of by the FA/EFL? Genuine question Some play for nothing for a short time just to get games and increase fitness. Put themselves in the shop window so to speak. Edited December 14, 2016 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Some play for nothing for a short time just to get games and increase fitness. Put themselves in the shop window so to speak. Ohhh of course, tough day at work and having a blonde moment cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 (edited) Not sure if I'm right but if it does not get resolved, they all go back, isn't there some sort o exception to the rule with regards to a gk? I'm the thick end of 6 foot four, have played a bit in goal in my time and I'm not cup tied... Edited December 14, 2016 by Dave_Og Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stagger Lee Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 I'm the thick end of 6 foot four, have played a bit in goal in my time and I'm not cup tied... Yeah but your outrageous pay demands of a pie and a cup of bovril plus your long standing commitment to one football club rather than a new club every year clearly puts you outside of the boards recruitment strategy. Now if you were to win the lottery and were prepared to pay per play i'm sure SC would send Barry around to negotiate terms - maybe a long term loam deal the loan would be you loaning them money of course ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 So yet another OWTB "fact" is created, we haven't paid 'Boro for the loan of Ripley. The press have reported that we've been behind on loan fees. Fact? Probably I'd say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 The press have reported that we've been behind on loan fees. Fact? Probably I'd say.We're clearly behind to someone but it's anyone's guess who. The loan fee could be one off or monthly or anything, and when the FA are involved they pay the bills with the money they were going to give to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magister Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 We have not paid some bills. I think everybody agrees? Why do we now think that income is about to increase and expenditure decrease? Surely unless this happens the next unplayable bill arrives? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 We have not paid some bills. I think everybody agrees? Why do we now think that income is about to increase and expenditure decrease? Surely unless this happens the next unplayable bill arrives? Quite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 (edited) Ever decreasing circles, folks! Now, tell me how myself and a few others called out by our leader in his last video nasty would help things... Bit concerned that the Trust appears as much in the dark over the loan fees situation as the rest of us. Edited December 15, 2016 by boundaryblue80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hands on Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 As I understand it Middlesborough can recall Ripley during the January window if the loan agreement includes a recall clause. Otherwise they could recall him now, because he is a goalkeeper, if they have less than two of their other first team goalkeepers fit at any time during the agreement. Finally they can recall him by mutual consent i.e. they offer us three pence half penny and we take the money. Let us hope he stays for the Mansfield game and after winning that wants to stay with us. He would be better staying with us rather than sitting on a bench somewhere unless he is recalled to be sold on. He will have been watched and I can see Middlesborough getting some very tempting offers come January. Why worry - at least we have him for the next three easy fixtures! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whittles left foot Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Talking of unpaid bills and money shortages. Bolton chairman says they are losing £800,000 a month-Wow!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Ever decreasing circles, folks! Now, tell me how myself and a few others called out by our leader in his last video nasty would help things... Bit concerned that the Trust appears as much in the dark over the loan fees situation as the rest of us. If the parent clubs were so unhappy about it then the players wouldn't be involved in games. Maybe the clubs are sympathetic to our situation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmer1 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Maybe the loan fees are not for players? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 If the parent clubs were so unhappy about it then the players wouldn't be involved in games. Maybe the clubs are sympathetic to our situation? Maybe as SC pointed out its far from being an abnormal situation to be, in owing money to other clubs, and everyone just gets on with it knowing lower league teams can't always pay bills on time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magister Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Talking of unpaid bills and money shortages. Bolton chairman says they are losing £800,000 a month-Wow!! Exactly...puts £20k for winning at Walsall into context.......loose change in footballing terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Maybe as SC pointed out its far from being an abnormal situation to be, in owing money to other clubs, and everyone just gets on with it knowing lower league teams can't always pay bills on time Might have changed but I think the rule with ticket sales is that you have pay the home club within a week, perhaps embargo has stemmed from that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Maybe as SC pointed out its far from being an abnormal situation to be, in owing money to other clubs, and everyone just gets on with it knowing lower league teams can't always pay bills on time If our situation is normal, and clubs normally accept it, is there something that's made them react differently this time? The level of debt owed? Frequency of it happening? Multiple creditors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stagger Lee Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 If our situation is normal, and clubs normally accept it, is there something that's made them react differently this time? The level of debt owed? Frequency of it happening? Multiple creditors? Maybe the desperation of one of the creditors? Slap Oldham to pay up or face being slapped by the FA or another club in return Dog eat dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 If our situation is normal, and clubs normally accept it, is there something that's made them react differently this time? The level of debt owed? Frequency of it happening? Multiple creditors? Calvin Andrew and his stray elbow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC0AFC Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 I guess SR was looking last night at Oldham born striker Stevie Humphrys, who scored 2 goals for Fulham under 23s. Top Goalscorer in the Under 23s League and something like 45 in 76 for Fulham youths since 12/13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Top Goalscorer in the Under 23s League and something like 45 in 76 for Fulham youths since 12/13Sounds like The Wolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimeblue Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Sounds like The Wolf Or Paul Moulden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 So yet another OWTB "fact" is created, we haven't paid 'Boro for the loan of Ripley. We may not be paying anything for Ripley. We are certainly not paying his full wage. I guess Fulham,Leeds and Wigan want some cash, but Boro? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 (edited) Ever decreasing circles, folks! Now, tell me how myself and a few others called out by our leader in his last video nasty would help things... Bit concerned that the Trust appears as much in the dark over the loan fees situation as the rest of us. As a trust member and on a personal note, I don't keep track of every loan player we have...I have enough trouble every season working out who we have kept, who the new guy is. I tend to look at their boots...but that's another story. I have no idea if each loan is tailored, or it's a set standard contract. What I have learnt and a possible scenario is that if we have agree to take the player on, we may have agreed with the parent club that they will pay that players wages but the parent club will then invoice us. So maybe it's a case that we have not paid the invoices? I heard on the radio last week that Rochdale have denied it was them that leaked or financial woes so who Knows which club did. Edited December 15, 2016 by underdog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
underdog Posted December 15, 2016 Share Posted December 15, 2016 Calvin Andrew and his stray elbow? That made me chuckle....naughty..haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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