rudemedic Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 9 hours ago, oafc1955 said: To rub salt in to the wounds FGR included 5 of our ‘castoffs’ in their starting eleven... Reece Brown, Gavin Gunning, Joe Mills, Carl Winchester and scorer Rueben Reid! Now that is depressing Different Reece Brown than the one who played for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 12 minutes ago, oafc1955 said: Stop moaning FFS!!!! We’ve been shite for 20 years, I don’t mind losing or drawing but not being able to at least match FGR really pissed me off. If we’d lost 5v1 we could have had no complaints...I haven’t seen my team win away in over 18 months. I enjoy away trips like you lot but not just for the sake of it, at this rate we’ll be following them next season in the ‘National League! You're right, fans want to see the team having a real go at winning away matches. It's great to see the team dominate away from home, makes it a day out to remember with fondness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcshuck Posted August 13, 2018 Author Share Posted August 13, 2018 Have to say based on the highlights we should have lost. As has been previously mentioned, we have a cross and the goal. They had another five chances on those highlights and apart from a couple of decent/lucky saves we'd have lost. Graham 'based' on the highlights looks garbage and he wasn't that great against MK at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusunga_Is_God Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, oafcshuck said: Have to say based on the highlights we should have lost. As has been previously mentioned, we have a cross and the goal. They had another five chances on those highlights and apart from a couple of decent/lucky saves we'd have lost. Graham 'based' on the highlights looks garbage and he wasn't that great against MK at home. I sat through the extended highlights. There’s 3 more crosses straight at the keeper included... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hometownclub Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Yep, those highlights clearly show us to be second best, looks like we've got out of jail with a point. It's going to be yet another long hard season, lets hope we can stay up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, oafcshuck said: Have to say based on the highlights we should have lost. As has been previously mentioned, we have a cross and the goal. They had another five chances on those highlights and apart from a couple of decent/lucky saves we'd have lost. Graham 'based' on the highlights looks garbage and he wasn't that great against MK at home. You should go to games and then your comments might carry more credence, Sam Graham is one of our only real bright sparks at the moment and potentially could have a great career in front of him, that lad is the least of our problems I can assure you of that. In fact our young defence/keeper has coped admirably despite being offered zero protection from a midfield that's as bad as it gets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Just now, yarddog73 said: .......Sam Graham is one of our only real bright sparks at the moment and potentially could have a great career in front of him...... I went to the game on Satdi..... I don't doubt he has the potential, for a 17yo boy he was/is capable of competing with men.... but - unsurprisingly for a 17yo - he was caught out of position a few times, mistimed & lost headers, one of which led to their goal...... and so bright spark or not, if he plays 30 odd games for us this year, we've absolutely no chance of threatening the top 7 in this league. If, when Clarke is back (assuming he's not on loan a Accrington, as unsubstantiated rumours on Twitter would have you believe) Bunn plays Clarke & Graham, instead of Clarke & Edmundson (our own player) then I'll be seriously disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcshuck Posted August 13, 2018 Author Share Posted August 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, lookersstandandy said: I went to the game on Satdi..... I don't doubt he has the potential, for a 17yo boy he was/is capable of competing with men.... but - unsurprisingly for a 17yo - he was caught out of position a few times, mistimed & lost headers, one of which led to their goal...... and so bright spark or not, if he plays 30 odd games for us this year, we've absolutely no chance of threatening the top 7 in this league. This is the point I was trying to make .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, lookersstandandy said: I went to the game on Satdi..... I don't doubt he has the potential, for a 17yo boy he was/is capable of competing with men.... but - unsurprisingly for a 17yo - he was caught out of position a few times, mistimed & lost headers, one of which led to their goal...... and so bright spark or not, if he plays 30 odd games for us this year, we've absolutely no chance of threatening the top 7 in this league. If, when Clarke is back (assuming he's not on loan a Accrington, as unsubstantiated rumours on Twitter would have you believe) Bunn plays Clarke & Graham, instead of Clarke & Edmundson (our own player) then I'll be seriously disappointed. Graham is our player for the season, don't get this thing people have with loanees, should we have played Holloway over Doyle last season because he was 'our' player? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcshuck Posted August 13, 2018 Author Share Posted August 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Graham is our player for the season, don't get this thing people have with loanees, should we have played Holloway over Doyle last season because he was 'our' player? Bit of a different example the one above. Rather give Edmundson the chance to prove himself and gain experience rather than some 17 year old lad from Sheffield United. If he was already miles above Edmundson and a better player, then yes play him, but based on what we've seen so far he isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Graham is our player for the season, don't get this thing people have with loanees, should we have played Holloway over Doyle last season because he was 'our' player? I don't get this thing people have with loanees that are no better than what we already have. Doyle > Holloway Graham = Edmundson Edited August 13, 2018 by lookersstandandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, lookersstandandy said: I don't get this thing people have with loanees that are no better than what we already have. Doyle > Holloway Graham = Edmundson Sample size far too small to make that judgement. The lad came in with good reviews, Edmundson was pretty much through the door at Flyde not long ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, lookersstandandy said: I went to the game on Satdi..... I don't doubt he has the potential, for a 17yo boy he was/is capable of competing with men.... but - unsurprisingly for a 17yo - he was caught out of position a few times, mistimed & lost headers, one of which led to their goal...... and so bright spark or not, if he plays 30 odd games for us this year, we've absolutely no chance of threatening the top 7 in this league. If, when Clarke is back (assuming he's not on loan a Accrington, as unsubstantiated rumours on Twitter would have you believe) Bunn plays Clarke & Graham, instead of Clarke & Edmundson (our own player) then I'll be seriously disappointed. Unfortunately Graham slipped prior to his poor header that led to the goal. His general play was decent and I don’t doubt his potential but he needs careful coaching to ensure that clearances are better directed and positional play is improved. The huge surprise for me on Saturday was the lack of closing down in the middle of the pitch. Bunn has spoken of the work ethic he will instil in his team play but this was sorely lacking against Forest Green. Hopefully Clarke will return and partner whichever of the two young centre backs happens to be playing the better football. But more importantly, having had a brief glimpse of what Baxter can bring to the attack, my fervent hope is that Jose can shake off the niggling injury he is carrying. And if Byrne was reinstated alongside him .... < wakes up and smells the coffee...> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 8 minutes ago, lookersstandandy said: I don't get this thing people have with loanees that are no better than what we already have. Doyle > Holloway Graham = Edmundson Based on having seen him for both league games. Edmundson > Graham = Stott. I'm very happy to play someone else's youngsters ahead of our own, if they are better. I'm still to be convinced that Graham is better than Stott nevermind Edmundson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookersstandandy Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, TheBigDog said: The huge surprise for me on Saturday was the lack of closing down in the middle of the pitch..... ....esp when we had 5 in midfield..... there were times when they walked straight through us.....! This is the bit that Gardner, Bunn & Lemsagam need to understand. 7 players missing or not, If you set up 4-5-1 at Forest fkin Green and are then 2nd best for much of the 1st half..... you're gonna get booed off [and no I didn't boo]. Our supporter base [quite understandably] expects better than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 1 hour ago, oafcshuck said: Have to say based on the highlights we should have lost. I wasn't there and have no idea how bad or good (!) we were but gaving a view based on a few edited highlights is patently ridiculous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 1 hour ago, deyres42 said: Sample size far too small to make that judgement. The lad came in with good reviews, Edmundson was pretty much through the door at Flyde not long ago. Edmondson was through the door at Sunderland just before that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosa Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 11 hours ago, oafc1955 said: To rub salt in to the wounds FGR included 5 of our ‘castoffs’ in their starting eleven... Reece Brown, Gavin Gunning, Joe Mills, Carl Winchester and scorer Rueben Reid! Now that is depressing To be fair Reuben Reid looked a totally different player to the fat get who played for us. Guess playing for a vegan club rather than one that tells you to go to the Nando's over the road to buy your own dinner has its advantages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosa Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: I wasn't there and have no idea how bad or good (!) we were but gaving a view based on a few edited highlights is patently ridiculous We could have been 3 or 4 nil down at halftime, looked far better when Baxter came on. Could maybe have been in with a chance of winning if we'd gone for it and brought on Benteke but instead we hung on for a draw. At Forest fucking Green. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, rosa said: We could have been 3 or 4 nil down at halftime, looked far better when Baxter came on. Could maybe have been in with a chance of winning if we'd gone for it and brought on Benteke but instead we hung on for a draw. At Forest fucking Green. Suspected as much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 23 minutes ago, rosa said: We could have been 3 or 4 nil down at halftime, looked far better when Baxter came on. Could maybe have been in with a chance of winning if we'd gone for it and brought on Benteke but instead we hung on for a draw. At Forest fucking Green. If we'd of won that it would of been daylight robbery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcshuck Posted August 13, 2018 Author Share Posted August 13, 2018 41 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: I wasn't there and have no idea how bad or good (!) we were but gaving a view based on a few edited highlights is patently ridiculous No it's not .... If the highlights show they had 8 chances and we had 1 chance, it's hardly ridiculous to have the opinion that we should have lost .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 1 minute ago, oafcshuck said: No it's not .... If the highlights show they had 8 chances and we had 1 chance, it's hardly ridiculous to have the opinion that we should have lost .... Ever read a local newspaper report? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 48 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: I wasn't there and have no idea how bad or good (!) we were but gaving a view based on a few edited highlights is patently ridiculous It would be if he was giving a view that conflicted with the views of those of us who went but, in this instance, he has correctly surmised from said edited highlights that we were indeed fucking shit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 36 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: If we'd of won that it would of been daylight robbery. Mmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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