PlayItLivo Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 They say its just for next season, but likely forever imo https://www.skysports.com/football/news/34651/12048431/fa-cup-replays-scrapped-for-2020-21-season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, PlayItLivo said: They say its just for next season, but likely forever imo https://www.skysports.com/football/news/34651/12048431/fa-cup-replays-scrapped-for-2020-21-season Makes sense for the coming season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayItLivo Posted August 13, 2020 Author Share Posted August 13, 2020 11 minutes ago, TheBigDog said: Makes sense for the coming season. Makes sense for who? You have FL clubs on their arse left, right and centre and a potential opportunity for a decent windfall has now been removed. But even still, they've opened the door now for replays to be scrapped permanently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusoe Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Would it still offer the chance of a windfall, though? Prize money has been halved and I assume that cascades to all rounds, and with no certainty on when fans can attend extra games just mean extra costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Clubs shouldn't be relying on replays as a source of income. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 15 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Clubs shouldn't be relying on replays as a source of income. They don't. Contingent assets I think they're called. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 hour ago, TheBigDog said: Makes sense for the coming season. Except for the fact the ridiculous B Team Trophy remains. Better to have replays and a chance of income than that pathetic competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, nzlatic said: They don't. Contingent assets I think they're called. The only reason anyone ever seems to put forward for keeping them is lower league clubs needing them as a potential windfall. If things are that bad then give the club to switch the tie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Carabao Cup and EFL Trophy should have been scrapped, The EFL Trophy for good. The PL has wanted replays scrapped for a while. It looks like they have been listened to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, al_bro said: Carabao Cup and EFL Trophy should have been scrapped, The EFL Trophy for good. Hard agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Lower league clubs have more chance of winning the tie in a one-off game, which will lead to prize money and a bigger windfall for the following round... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddyexile84 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 33 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: Lower league clubs have more chance of winning the tie in a one-off game, which will lead to prize money and a bigger windfall for the following round... I agree in the main but if the Everton match has gone to extra time I doubt we would have won - the replay earned us quite a bit. I also agree with Eyrsey that clubs shouldn’t be gambling on cup runs but the fact is that run in 2012 was life saving for us - the FA Cup was always seen as vital. Corney was absolutely livid when we lost to Lincoln in the second round and I believe cancelled the players Xmas do on the back of it. the replays are a chance for fans to either go to a big ground or bring a higher team back for a leveller. I’d be sorry to lose them for good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchierich Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 It is a bit swings and roundabouts, I wonder if, statistically, most small clubs lose the replay but would on average win more penalty shoot outs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeroyboy Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 The change would likely encourage most top clubs to play a full strength team in away games against lower league opposition, with no second chance home option available. Thus further reducing small clubs chances of progress, as well as a lucrative away replay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
another fan Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 7 hours ago, deyres42 said: Clubs shouldn't be relying on replays as a source of income. If that was the case some would say that Clubs should not rely on Cup revenues as a source of income Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, mikeroyboy said: The change would likely encourage most top clubs to play a full strength team in away games against lower league opposition, with no second chance home option available. Thus further reducing small clubs chances of progress, as well as a lucrative away replay. Good, we want the best teams to progress the furthest, competitions shouldn't exist as a means of giving smaller clubs a chance of a payday, it's just a ridiculous argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeroyboy Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 19 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Good, we want the best teams to progress the furthest, competitions shouldn't exist as a means of giving smaller clubs a chance of a payday, it's just a ridiculous argument. Ban the cups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 hour ago, deyres42 said: Good, we want the best teams to progress the furthest, competitions shouldn't exist as a means of giving smaller clubs a chance of a payday, it's just a ridiculous argument. So we wanted Fulham to progress? And Liverpool? Everton? Arsenal? Wanting the best teams to progress is the dumb argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 59 minutes ago, mikeroyboy said: Ban the cups. What have the Cups ever done for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeroyboy Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, singe said: What have the Cups ever done for us? Irritated Deyres42 is all I can put my finger on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worcester Owl Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 2 hours ago, another fan said: If that was the case some would say that Clubs should not rely on Cup revenues as a source of income Absolutely correct. Sensible clubs at all levels budget for going out of a KO competition at the first time of asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 8 hours ago, singe said: So we wanted Fulham to progress? And Liverpool? Everton? Arsenal? Wanting the best teams to progress is the dumb argument. No bruv. The team that performs best on the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 10 hours ago, deyres42 said: competitions shouldn't exist as a means of giving smaller clubs a chance of a payday, it's just a ridiculous argument. However the F.A Cup gave smaller clubs a cash chance anyway, even if we can rationally argue that's not what is supposed to occur - in other words, it was a bonus. The ties will still happen I suppose, just the romance and thrill of 'taking them back to our place' or the big away day replay is gone - and yet the Freight Rover Trophy still exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 10 minutes ago, Matt said: However the F.A Cup gave smaller clubs a cash chance anyway, even if we can rationally argue that's not what is supposed to occur - in other words, it was a bonus. The ties will still happen I suppose, just the romance and thrill of 'taking them back to our place' or the big away day replay is gone - and yet the Freight Rover Trophy still exists. I've no strong opinion either way over scrapping them, just don't think the potential of a payday is a particularly strong reason for doing for keeping them. Let the clubs decide how they want to spilt it and if they can't then it defaults to an even share. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Mikey Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, deyres42 said: I've no strong opinion either way over scrapping them, just don't think the potential of a payday is a particularly strong reason for doing for keeping them. Let the clubs decide how they want to spilt it and if they can't then it defaults to an even share. It's already an even share. It's league games where the home side keeps everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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