deyres42 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 8 hours ago, GlossopLatic said: I understand we've been accused of living in the past and their is abit of merit there. Believing we are as big as championship level clubs who get 15-20000 in league 1 just because we were at the same level as them 25 years ago can be seen as entitled. Believing that Man United and Man City are still our rivals that's living past very much so. But believing that we should competing at the same level as Newport County Cheltenham and Exeter isn't it's a very realistic aim. We have been accused of living the past before now. I think we have now gone too far the other way I think the expectations are now abit too low. We might not like it but I don't think it is a case of believing this is our level, it is reality, there's nothing to suggest we are some big club in waiting and I very much doubt that fans of other clubs in the division see us as one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Who's the goalkeeping coach at the club who seems to think it's ok for Lawlor to stay rooted on his line and avoid catching the ball at all costs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 19 hours ago, Londonboy said: If you came on here for the first time you'd think we had lost 10 nil and we're bottom of the league. Apparently Garrity, Fage, CBJ, Ntambwe, Grant, Pidge, Clarke, Mcalmont, DKD, Lawler and McAleny are all shit and we are a 1 man team in Bam! From what I saw, yes we were not great, but created enough to win the game. We know our midfield is not going to win every ball...that won't change with the squad we have We were pretty unlucky both hitting the woodwork and with their 2nd goal. If it had been a draw both teams would have thought it fair. I guess I'm just pointing out we know we have deficiencies and we will make plenty of mistakes, but it's far better than last season and we can still challenge I think in this league if we can improve at home. Disappointing result yes but a few on here need to get realistic We have seen some sublime passing, triangles, the works eg against Bradford when we have all the time on the ball. The problem is that s soon as we are challenged by a better team we crumble and the players panic in their decision making, which is why we and they are in the lower half of the basement division. It's not unrealistic to expect a better quality of player for this dvision-we haven't got the lowest budget- and that we out together a team to compete for promotion out of this abject division. People's reaction is driven by the regression we seem to make. 2 steps forward, 4 back. We are crying out for 4 or 5 better quality players. 2 or 3 significantly better would improve us immensely. The proble is our owner can unearth the odd gem like Bahamboula but there are 50 mediocre players to go through first. He's no better than you or I in that regard so far, we could filter the players we are offered just as well. We need to be out unearthing rather than sitting waiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayfield Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 20 hours ago, oafcmetty said: Is it? The attack is better, but it's hard to see how any other area has improved, in most we've gone backwards. Better attack plus better manager probably means we'll get more points, but we're not going to set the division on fire all of a sudden. Better than last season? Very subjective of course, hard to judge and could be a moot point if those around us have improved. Memories of how we started last season haven't faded for me yet, we were nailed on relegation candidates, not so this season. I argue Lawlor is an upgrade, excellent at times but flaps at crosses which we think should be caught. I strongly agree with you that our attacking threat is stronger, too much reliance on Jonny Smith last season (who was magic). Lacking a pair of McCann type players in midfield is probably the difference between a frustrating mid table finish or a crack at the playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 6 hours ago, Mayfield said: Better than last season? Very subjective of course, hard to judge and could be a moot point if those around us have improved. Memories of how we started last season haven't faded for me yet, we were nailed on relegation candidates, not so this season. Lost the first three league games both last season and this. After 10 games last season we had 10 points, this season 8 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonboy Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 21 hours ago, oafcmetty said: Only 3 teams have scored more goals than us this season, however we have conceded more than anyone Yes we have little chance of the play offs unless we start to defend better as a team, however is it better than the dross we regularly served up last season?...absolutely in my opinion. If you don't agree fair enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted December 18, 2020 Share Posted December 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Londonboy said: Only 3 teams have scored more goals than us this season, however we have conceded more than anyone Yes we have little chance of the play offs unless we start to defend better as a team, however is it better than the dross we regularly served up last season?...absolutely in my opinion. If you don't agree fair enough Better on the eye, for sure. Until we learn how to pick up points at home though we're not going to move up the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweeperKeeper Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 On 12/16/2020 at 1:35 PM, ShireBlue said: A lot of the squad are technically poor. How many times do you see a pass lobbed up awkwardly for the receiving player, or not finding a blue shirt at all? Just been reading an interview with Mourinho where he said this "When sometimes I see people in the lower divisions trying to play the way the top players do and then make incredible mistakes because they have not enough quality … I just feel that is wrong. I promise you that nobody knows better than I do our own weaknesses.” This is 110% Keillor-Dunn, and to a lesser extent Whelan. Both of them would be better players if they played it 5m along the ground instead of crap floated lobs, no-look passes or Cruyff turns where they trip themselves up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonboy Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 21 hours ago, oafcmetty said: Better on the eye, for sure. Until we learn how to pick up points at home though we're not going to move up the table. And this is not better than last season...?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 56 minutes ago, Londonboy said: And this is not better than last season...?? I stand by the below! Where are we in the table? 22 hours ago, oafcmetty said: Better on the eye, for sure. Until we learn how to pick up points at home though we're not going to move up the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 19 minutes ago, oafcmetty said: I stand by the below! Where are we in the table? Moving up it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 2 hours ago, kowenicki said: Moving up it... Home next up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 n/t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latics22 Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 3 hours ago, oafcmetty said: I stand by the below! Where are we in the table? 4 points off the play offs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 11 minutes ago, latics22 said: 4 points off the play offs? Yes, 14th. Let's hope we win at home on boxing day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 10 hours ago, oafcmetty said: Yes, 14th. Let's hope we win at home on boxing day. Harrogate Away form 4th best in the league. Latics’’ Home form 21st best in the league. Next Saturday would be a good time to discover how to play at BP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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