oafc1955 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 1 hour ago, oafcmetty said: Hogan, P Clarke, Rooney, Sheron, Reid to pick just five, have been at best poor so far if you take the season as a whole. Yarney, Sutton, Cuoto, Shelton, Nuttall, Abraham have played a handful of games between them. Norman, Tollit, Fondop and Kitching have done ok. I don't think you can put all the blame on the manager. Reid’s been OK, and Rooney has been good of late….we just ain’t seen them in their correct positions enough…you can’t honestly say P Clarke has been poor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penrhyn Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 I think it also very easy to forget how important a full proper pre season is . Which we didnt have and most other teams did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penrhyn Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 On 2/2/2023 at 8:49 AM, Hemel latic said: I try to be measured in my assessments of our players and perhaps I have been a little harsh on Yarney, that might perhaps have been influenced by the rave reviews he received in the two previous games. Effiong scored and won a penalty that he failed to convert, both of which came in Yarney's right centre channel. Even though some that watched on the stream thought it may not have been a penalty, it was won on the back of Effiong's almost complete dominance over Yarney, both on the deck and in the air. The needless yellow that Varney earned for pushing Effiong was evidence of his frustration at struggling with a superior opponent. It has to be considered a bad day at the office. I can accept he might be a useful squad player, is he a better right back? He might even develop it into a first choice player. I'm just advising caution on the basis of what I saw at the weekend, more evidence required. A big, commanding centre half would definitely be on my wish list in respect of those 6/7 players we might sign to finish off the squad for 23/24, I don't think that player is Yarney on the basis of what I have seen so far. On Tuesday night Yarney's almost complete dominance over Effiong, both on the deck and in the air. The needless yellow that Effiong's earned for pushing Yarney was evidence of his frustration at struggling with a superior opponent. Yarney might be a key player next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemel latic Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 5 hours ago, penrhyn said: On Tuesday night Yarney's almost complete dominance over Effiong, both on the deck and in the air. The needless yellow that Effiong's earned for pushing Yarney was evidence of his frustration at struggling with a superior opponent. Yarney might be a key player next season. As the tv show used to say, I just said what I saw. However, I do believe Effiong came on as a sub on Tuesday night, playing with team mates he hadn't even trained with so I might reserve judgement on Reg a little longer. I'll be as pleased as everyone else if he is indeed the second coming of Andy Holden but the jury remains out for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 5 hours ago, penrhyn said: On Tuesday night Yarney's almost complete dominance over Effiong, both on the deck and in the air. The needless yellow that Effiong's earned for pushing Yarney was evidence of his frustration at struggling with a superior opponent. Yarney might be a key player next season. Effiong had just joined D&R and didn’t come on until the 63rd minute. He was the standout player down at Aldershot and I feared the worst when he came on - so credit to Yarney for keeping him quiet. There have been four strikers who have been a handful in the games I’ve seen this season: Ndlovu at Borehamwood Offiong at Aldershot Dieseruvwe home to Halifax - three very similar type of players. The fourth was Paul Mullin - nuff said there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemel latic Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 16 minutes ago, TheBigDog said: Effiong had just joined D&R and didn’t come on until the 63rd minute. He was the standout player down at Aldershot and I feared the worst when he came on - so credit to Yarney for keeping him quiet. There have been four strikers who have been a handful in the games I’ve seen this season: Ndlovu at Borehamwood Offiong at Aldershot Dieseruvwe home to Halifax - three very similar type of players. The fourth was Paul Mullin - nuff said there I'm with you there BD, Ndlovu was also a proper handful, without him we would have won that game. And that's what you want from a CF, match winning/saving contributions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrek Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 9 hours ago, oafc1955 said: Reid’s been OK, and Rooney has been good of late….we just ain’t seen them in their correct positions enough…you can’t honestly say P Clarke has been poor! P Clarke + Hogan makes the team poorer as they're too slow. The back line has to drop, midfield then also and the forwards are isolated and the lumping up field carries on. Clarke isn't the player he was, weaker and physically less able. We really don't need him, good back up. A quick un and a slow vet all season for me. Sutton/Yarney with Hogan/Clarke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 36 minutes ago, Hemel latic said: I'm with you there BD, Ndlovu was also a proper handful, without him we would have won that game. And that's what you want from a CF, match winning/saving contributions. Fondop at Dorking included? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemel latic Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 1 hour ago, BP1960 said: Fondop at Dorking included? Yeah, absolutely BP, Aldershot too. I almost put that in my previous post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 Anyone else think Hogan looks like a pub player since he signed for us, his games littered with errors and when the oppo scores he's invariably involved, I know you can't quantify his leadership qualities but he's not the player I remember for Stockport, whether the injuries set him back I don't know but he wasn't great before the Southend game. It was noticable on Tuesday from wherein was sat that it's him pulling everyone back in at every opportunity, particularly Sutton and Shelton before he went off, it's probably under instruction but for me it's just negative and constrains players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 3 hours ago, TheBigDog said: Effiong had just joined D&R and didn’t come on until the 63rd minute. He was the standout player down at Aldershot and I feared the worst when he came on - so credit to Yarney for keeping him quiet. There have been four strikers who have been a handful in the games I’ve seen this season: Ndlovu at Borehamwood Offiong at Aldershot Dieseruvwe home to Halifax - three very similar type of players. The fourth was Paul Mullin - nuff said there Said at the time we should have signed that Browne from Wealdstone. Looked a right player, signed for Woking and still scoring for fun, but his all round play tore us a new one at BP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 30 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: Anyone else think Hogan looks like a pub player since he signed for us, his games littered with errors and when the oppo scores he's invariably involved, I know you can't quantify his leadership qualities but he's not the player I remember for Stockport, whether the injuries set him back I don't know but he wasn't great before the Southend game. It was noticable on Tuesday from wherein was sat that it's him pulling everyone back in at every opportunity, particularly Sutton and Shelton before he went off, it's probably under instruction but for me it's just negative and constrains players. Hogan is an absolute liability, and needs dropping. What was he even doing on Tuesday running into the back of our midfielders to head the ball ? Leaving a massive hole behind him. Understand he wants to attack the ball, but it was landing on Sheron head half the time and left us exposed. He must have been at fault for a goal a game almost, needs dropping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 4 hours ago, TheBigDog said: Effiong had just joined D&R and didn’t come on until the 63rd minute. He was the standout player down at Aldershot and I feared the worst when he came on - so credit to Yarney for keeping him quiet. There have been four strikers who have been a handful in the games I’ve seen this season: Ndlovu at Borehamwood Offiong at Aldershot Dieseruvwe home to Halifax - three very similar type of players. The fourth was Paul Mullin - nuff said there And the attacking midfielder Rob Apter of Scunthorpe. Back at Blackpool now, but not catching the first team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 5 hours ago, BP1960 said: And the attacking midfielder Rob Apter of Scunthorpe. Back at Blackpool now, but not catching the first team. With Rooney starting to find his stride I wouldn't be looking at the likes of Apter, desperate for wide men, although I thought Tollitt was very effective Tursday when he was allowed to play in a free role second half, he had his best game for a while and carried the ball well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_R Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 20 hours ago, LightDN123 said: Said at the time we should have signed that Browne from Wealdstone. Looked a right player, signed for Woking and still scoring for fun, but his all round play tore us a new one at BP. Was he the bald headed number 10? Best player I’ve seen this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 39 minutes ago, Steve_R said: Was he the bald headed number 10? Best player I’ve seen this season. Yeah plays behind the number 9. Got two more for Woking yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyboy55555 Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Add him to the list for next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 How many of this massive squad would you consider 'battlers'? not many I expect. This is the crux of the matter IMO, besides low quality too many faint hearts recruited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 1 hour ago, BP1960 said: How many of this massive squad would you consider 'battlers'? not many I expect. This is the crux of the matter IMO, besides low quality too many faint hearts recruited. Still waiting for you, with all your years of wisdom, to explain what more you think Nuttal can do woth the appalling service he gets, other than "run round more" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 He’s getting poor service no doubt but he’s definitely not working hard enough, he’s strolling around whilst Reid is grafting his bollocks off. I must admit, spending that sort of money on a striker and then not playing to his strengths is baffling. However Unsworth already has form for doing exactly that with other players he’s brought in! We really need a proper manager with a proper formation and proper tactics. I fear it will be much the same at Chesterfield and if it is I think the frustration of the fans will definitely spill over…it could be quite a toxic atmosphere on Saturday!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 7 hours ago, oafc1955 said: He’s getting poor service no doubt but he’s definitely not working hard enough, he’s strolling around whilst Reid is grafting his bollocks off. I must admit, spending that sort of money on a striker and then not playing to his strengths is baffling. However Unsworth already has form for doing exactly that with other players he’s brought in! We really need a proper manager with a proper formation and proper tactics. I fear it will be much the same at Chesterfield and if it is I think the frustration of the fans will definitely spill over…it could be quite a toxic atmosphere on Saturday!! His game isn't running round a lot. No point anyway when midfield don't press as well. Depressing football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Leutwiler, J. Clarke, McGahey, Maynard, Francis-Angol, Windass (out on loan), Stobbs, Burgess, Porter, Hope, Luamba, Da Silva How many of this lot will be with us come August? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardie Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 1 minute ago, TheBigDog said: Leutwiler, J. Clarke, McGahey, Maynard, Francis-Angol, Windass (out on loan), Stobbs, Burgess, Porter, Hope, Luamba, Da Silva How many of this lot will be with us come August? I'm still sticking my neck out and saying..none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemel latic Posted March 6, 2023 Share Posted March 6, 2023 Suzanne Geldard reporting that Dan Gardner should be available in a fortnight, Hallam Hope might be available around the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted March 6, 2023 Author Share Posted March 6, 2023 6 hours ago, Hemel latic said: Suzanne Geldard reporting that Dan Gardner should be available in a fortnight, Hallam Hope might be available around the same time. Hopefully both turning out for Mossley, or someone else not us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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