sjk2008 Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 11 minutes ago, deyres42 said: They matter more at the higher levels, in my opinion. You disagree, not a problem. Christ you talk some absolute shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 14 minutes ago, deyres42 said: They matter more at the higher levels, in my opinion. You disagree, not a problem. Fine. But that isn’t your view. . Guy gave you Stevenage example and you said - ‘the man in dugout can’t of been a hinderance’ That means you accept that Evans has made a difference to their success. . . This completely contradicts what you’ve just posted above- that managers only matter higher up. Genuinely- at what level do you think they start to matter then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, sjk2008 said: Christ you talk some absolute shite. After 20 games Gillingham had 2 wins, scored 6 goals, had 14 points and were 23rd in the league. In 19 games since they have 9 wins, 21 goals, now have 44 points and have been as high as 17th. All with the same manager. Makes you think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Branston Pickle Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, deyres42 said: After 20 games Gillingham had 2 wins, scored 6 goals, had 14 points and were 23rd in the league. In 19 games since they have 9 wins, 21 goals, now have 44 points and have been as high as 17th. All with the same manager. Makes you think... You're saying we should've stuck with Sheridan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 9 minutes ago, League one forever said: Fine. But that isn’t your view. . Guy gave you Stevenage example and you said - ‘the man in dugout can’t of been a hinderance’ That means you accept that Evans has made a difference to their success. . . This completely contradicts what you’ve just posted above- that managers only matter higher up. Genuinely- at what level do you think they start to matter then? pretend we are in an alley. you two just had a straightner and lm the 'ref' 'stop. leave him, he's had enough et cetera' *drags backwards* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 7 minutes ago, League one forever said: Fine. But that isn’t your view. . Guy gave you Stevenage example and you said - ‘the man in dugout can’t of been a hinderance’ That means you accept that Evans has made a difference to their success. . . This completely contradicts what you’ve just posted above- that managers only matter higher up. Genuinely- at what level do you think they start to matter then? If my eyes are right after 35 games last season they had 34 points, this season 66. If he has improved the results that much singlehandedly then he is clearly a genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Monty Burns said: pretend we are in an alley. you two just had a straightner and lm the 'ref' 'stop. leave him, he's had enough et cetera' *drags backwards* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 just to prove l do infact have my finger on the youth culture pulse. yes, it was a 'manly' straightener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, deyres42 said: If my eyes are right after 35 games last season they had 34 points, this season 66. If he has improved the results that much singlehandedly then he is clearly a genius. Fine. So he’s in league two and you seem to accept he’s made a difference. As I’m sure you’re aware - as a football connoisseur, league two is one division higher than us. So it is just our league where managers don’t matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, Monty Burns said: just to prove l do infact have my finger on the youth culture pulse. yes, it was a 'manly' straightener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 1 minute ago, League one forever said: Fine. So he’s in league two and you seem to accept he’s made a difference. As I’m sure you’re aware - as a football connoisseur, league two is one division higher than us. So it is just our league where managers don’t matter? They matter, just not to the degree people seem to think. In my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 2 hours ago, League one forever said: It really isn’t. Phil Parkinson would have this squad in the top 10 no question. Which equates to 5 places higher & 9 points more….Wow!!! and we’d still be 44points behind Wrexham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, deyres42 said: They matter, just not to the degree people seem to think. In my opinion. Finally. That only took 36 posts. Which isn’t too bad I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 12 minutes ago, oafc1955 said: Which equates to 5 places higher & 9 points more….Wow!!! and we’d still be 44points behind Wrexham. No fair minded fan expected to win the league, hence I didn’t say that. But we could and should be doing better, and another manager would have top ten - which this season would be acceptable, and a decent place to build from. Also, seeing as though 9 points less would have us in the relegation places, I’m not sure why you’re so dismissive of being in a better place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlion Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 38 minutes ago, deyres42 said: After 20 games Gillingham had 2 wins, scored 6 goals, had 14 points and were 23rd in the league. In 19 games since they have 9 wins, 21 goals, now have 44 points and have been as high as 17th. All with the same manager. Makes you think... It makes me think that perhaps those who say you talk shite might have a point. Sorry but it is looking that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, redlion said: It makes me think that perhaps those who say you talk shite might have a point. Sorry but it is looking that way. But this is a prime example of recruiting better players bringing about improvement in results... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Branston Pickle Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, deyres42 said: But this is a prime example of recruiting better players bringing about improvement in results... But Unsworth has recruited better players, and we're currently a place below where we where when he took over... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Guy Branston Pickle said: But Unsworth has recruited better players, and we're currently a place below where we where when he took over... Begs the question if they are actually better players then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Branston Pickle Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 11 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Begs the question if they are actually better players then... The top scorers from two separate clubs. A two time player of the season for the entire division. Two or three other players who have been starters in sides promoted out of the division. Hmm yes, I'm sure it has nothing to do with management Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 26 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Begs the question if they are actually better players then... So he's either a shit tactician or a shit recruiter of players... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 24 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Begs the question if they are actually better players then... In our case they might be a little better or a little less shite but nowhere near good enough to take us forward! Yesterday we really only had one player who looked relatively comfortable in possession, but it doesn’t help when you have no players looking for space or moving off the ball. Wrexham like Notts Co have a team full with both attributes! These 8 or 9 additions Unsworth is targeting had better improve the team not just the squad!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 9 minutes ago, JoeP said: So he's either a shit tactician or a shit recruiter of players... Excuse me. Please remember that my friend and yours, @lookersstandandy, reliably informs us that good signings are made by Unsworth but bad signings are made by the club... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseowl Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 3 hours ago, deyres42 said: It is only worth noting by those desperate to spin the narrative that Sheri was doing a good job... Sheridan was/is a far better manager than Unsworth - absolutely no doubt about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseowl Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Monty Burns said: wrexham 'lads' gettin banged out by little girls and normal scarf n shirt types on buses after attacking wheelchairs bc they dared to be painted blue just sums up the day and the whole place for me, really Really? - horrible fuckin' cowards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted April 2, 2023 Share Posted April 2, 2023 7 minutes ago, wiseowl said: Sheridan was/is a far better manager than Unsworth - absolutely no doubt about that. Be weird if he wasn't given the difference in experience between the two... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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