Londonboy Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 5 hours ago, BerlinBlue said: This. Plenty of players can do this. Sheron's contributions to breaking up play get way overblown because he makes a few sliding tackles here and there and runs around a bit. As long as he is starting in our midfield, we will not get promoted. He'd be ok as a backup, that's it. I'd love it if you could help me out here and name a few of the "plenty" that will come and play for us in the National League for the next couple of seasons..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Bobledgersheart said: Probably means "marshals" = organises. I know just kidding. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobledgersheart Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, Londonboy said: I'd love it if you could help me out here and name a few of the "plenty" that will come and play for us in the National League for the next couple of seasons..... No supporter would reject an upgrade in any of our players, it's the progressive thing to do, but until those better players actually sign we need to shelve the pointless criticism of certain players. There are at least three positions we need to strengthen before we address the shortcomings of Sheron or the goalies. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonboy Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Bobledgersheart said: No supporter would reject an upgrade in any of our players, it's the progressive thing to do, but until those better players actually sign we need to shelve the pointless criticism of certain players. There are at least three positions we need to strengthen before we address the shortcomings of Sheron or the goalies. 100% agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 2 hours ago, BP1960 said: Who's Marshall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogdenwoodwhittle Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 4 hours ago, BP1960 said: Who's Marshall? Someone with manners? Or a plan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 On 11/30/2023 at 2:36 PM, BerlinBlue said: Sheron is a terrible footballer and the fact our midfield has not dominated once in over a year and a half he has been playing for us says it all. He can run about all he wants, it's a low bar when that's the standard we strive for. Even if he is on the list, could be difficult to offload him since we gave him an extra year's contract. On 11/30/2023 at 4:33 PM, BerlinBlue said: Which promotion side has he played in? In the next game, just watch how many times he passes sideways or backwards. How many times he stops our attacking play from developing. He sits too deep, can‘t take the ball on the turn, and can‘t pick a forward pass. Not a very good midfielder. 10 hours ago, LightDN123 said: Who did this for both Notts County and Wrexham last year then ? You don’t NEED a central midfielder who struggles to pass a football. Here is a thought. Why don’t we get a player who can break up play in midfield AND pass a ball more than 2 yards to his team mate. We are playing a midfield 2 currently. All the opposition have to do is stand on Lundstram and let Sheron have the ball as they know the chances of him creating anything is next to Nil. 10 hours ago, LightDN123 said: Buzzing with the Barnet game, great result. Dominated the midfield ? Absolutely not. We got lucky at times, we stayed in the game and the quality in the counter attack won us the game. They also went all out attack from minute 1 which suited the setup. All the shite above perfectly blown out of the water by the below. 9 hours ago, TheBigDog said: Now I’m not having a pop @LightDN123 but take the Barnet game as an example: There was the ball to Fondop that led to the penalty, the ball through to Norwood where he found himself one on one with the keeper but slipped the ball just past the post… oh and the ball to Norwood who took it on and bagged the third …. All chances created by Sheron 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 8 minutes ago, mcfluff1985 said: All the shite above perfectly blown out of the water by the below. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidge Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 11 hours ago, Londonboy said: Sheron is not the main problem. Every team needs someone doing the dirty work and keeping things simple. If we had the right players to play 4:5:1 with 2 proper attacking wide midfield men, a good baller in the middle 3 (and not DG) and a better right back Sheron would be fine. Our issue is an aging, static team without the legs to create enough space going forward for the likes of Sheron etc to play more meaningful attacking passes, particularly when we are at home. Take him out and we are worse than we are today....fact Actually I feel we have an aging team who cannot play 2 or certainly 3 games in quick succession without running out of steam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 8 hours ago, Bobledgersheart said: No supporter would reject an upgrade in any of our players, it's the progressive thing to do, but until those better players actually sign we need to shelve the pointless criticism of certain players. There are at least three positions we need to strengthen before we address the shortcomings of Sheron or the goalies. Bob. I love the cut of your jib. Amen. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 15 hours ago, Bobledgersheart said: Probably means "marshals" = organises. Bobbbbb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerlinBlue Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 16 hours ago, Bobledgersheart said: No supporter would reject an upgrade in any of our players, it's the progressive thing to do, but until those better players actually sign we need to shelve the pointless criticism of certain players. There are at least three positions we need to strengthen before we address the shortcomings of Sheron or the goalies. Midfield and right back are the main points of issue in my opinion. Goalkeeper is fine. Hasn‘t the main problem been trying to break teams down at home? When we actually have to play through them we can‘t. This isn‘t a pointless criticism it‘s just what has been happening. Anyway, hope Sheron has a blinder today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, BerlinBlue said: Hasn‘t the main problem been trying to break teams down at home? We did against Ebbsfleet. Prior to that we created more than enough chances against Alty and Eastleigh and couldn’t take them. 4 minutes ago, BerlinBlue said: Midfield and right back are the main points of issue in my opinion. Goalkeeper is fine. Agreed on Freeman, he isn’t quick enough and doesn’t get up and down like kitch does. Green is to inconsistent and we have no one for the left hand side. Id upgrade all 3 positions before we look at centre mid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 33 minutes ago, BerlinBlue said: Midfield and right back are the main points of issue in my opinion. Goalkeeper is fine. Hasn‘t the main problem been trying to break teams down at home? When we actually have to play through them we can‘t. This isn‘t a pointless criticism it‘s just what has been happening. Anyway, hope Sheron has a blinder today. Just ignore the hate mate it’s pointless. We have had a problem in central midfield for 18 months but people will still say Sheron is not the problem. It’s got to be either Sheron or Lundstrum who’s the problem and needs upgrading and I know which one it is and so do you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobledgersheart Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 3 hours ago, Monty Burns said: Bobbbbb Sorry, I take everything a bit too literally ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, LightDN123 said: It’s got to be either Sheron or Lundstrum who’s the problem and needs upgrading ultimately the best way to view it and almost certainly the view of the management Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, Monty Burns said: ultimately the best way to view it and almost certainly the view of the management Exactly. Our midfield options are Lundstrum, Sheron, Gardner and Shelton. Shelton the clear weak link. Gardner good on his day. But the clear upgrade is Sheron and then he takes Shelton’s place on the bench. I don’t include McGahey as a CM option. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 14 minutes ago, Bobledgersheart said: Sorry, I take everything a bit too literally ! lve got Aspergers and even l knew it was a joke!!! mind you, lve treated life like a joke as a coping mechanism since my diagnosis so lm trained by now stops me coupling up windows mentally and re arranging sentences looking for the code Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerlinBlue Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 27 minutes ago, LightDN123 said: Exactly. Our midfield options are Lundstrum, Sheron, Gardner and Shelton. Shelton the clear weak link. Gardner good on his day. But the clear upgrade is Sheron and then he takes Shelton’s place on the bench. I don’t include McGahey as a CM option. Exactly as I see it, to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, BerlinBlue said: Exactly as I see it, to be honest. Sheron would be a good option to bring off the bench when we need energy in midfield to see out games. Covers a number of positions too, a place for him in the squad without a doubt. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobledgersheart Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Monty Burns said: lve got Aspergers and even l knew it was a joke!!! mind you, lve treated life like a joke as a coping mechanism since my diagnosis so lm trained by now stops me coupling up windows mentally and re arranging sentences looking for the code I think I'm catching old age, then again I wasn't much smarter years ago !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 4 hours ago, League one forever said: Green is to inconsistent He's been pretty consistent from what I've seen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: He's been pretty consistent from what I've seen... He’s improved his workrate under Mellon (as a lot have) but I still think we need better delivery from wide areas. His final ball/cross is generally poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 44 minutes ago, League one forever said: He’s improved his workrate under Mellon (as a lot have) but I still think we need better delivery from wide areas. His final ball/cross is generally poor. Think he means he’s been consistently shite!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 6 hours ago, LightDN123 said: Just ignore the hate mate it’s pointless. Dear me. It’s a forum- people disagree. Nobody hates anybody- we don’t even know each other. 6 hours ago, LightDN123 said: We have had a problem in central midfield for 18 months but people will still say Sheron is not the problem. Right - that’s that then, so because you can diagnose it- debate should stop because you can see it and no one else can. You do realise that in those 18 months the vast majority has been under quite possibly the worst manager in our history. Is Sheron now responsible for entire team tactics and team shape?? Despite playing under DU he still wins players player of the year. Since Mellon has come in, he’s scored two worldies, his passing has been much better he’s created chances and we’ve largely stopped teams playing through us. But he gets no credit for that. . because you’ve made your mind up on a player despite the obvious improvement under a new manager and winning awards under an awful manager. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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