HarryBosch Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 38 minutes ago, singe said: Notts County Chairman has said they are losing £1.5m a year (£30,000 a week.) Who - HMRC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, kowenicki said: Opinions and boundary resorting to insults as usual. "You WILL have the same opinion as me!" No, no, no...stop crying that it's an insult...you have your opinion by all means. And I will have my opinion on your opinion (or is that not allowed?) The difference between me and you is I expect & accept being treated likewise. Let's not forget who brought it all up again btw. Edited May 9, 2017 by boundaryblue80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 37 minutes ago, boundaryblue80 said: No, no, no...stop crying that it's an insult...you have your opinion by all means. And I will have my opinion on your opinion (or is that no allowed?) The difference between me and you is I expect accept being treated likewise. Let's not forget who brought it all up again btw. I did, because the "seriously worried" fell silent and I for one found that very telling. I'm done in the thread though. Won't comment again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 5 minutes ago, kowenicki said: I did, because the "seriously worried" fell silent and I for one found that very telling. I'm done in the thread though. Won't comment again. Fell silent? Or waiting for something to report? I think you and I both know which really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorvik_latic Posted May 9, 2017 Author Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) 28 minutes ago, boundaryblue80 said: Fell silent? Or waiting for something to report? I think you and I both know which really Also - still worried but don't need to bleat on about a point every 5 minutes like some people on this site for it to still be a valid concern. Edited May 9, 2017 by jorvik_latic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 1 hour ago, singe said: Notts County Chairman has said they are losing £1.5m a year (£30,000 a week.) SC says he puts in £1.3m a year, so I guess we are in more or less the same boat as Notts.County. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 2 hours ago, kowenicki said: Opinions and boundary resorting to insults as usual. "You WILL have the same opinion as me!" If it's aimed at McFluff it doesn't count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 54 minutes ago, kowenicki said: I did, because the "seriously worried" fell silent and I for one found that very telling. I'm done in the thread though. Won't comment again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 12 hours ago, al_bro said: SC says he puts in £1.3m a year, so I guess we are in more or less the same boat as Notts.County. I think, if I recall the notes from NNN, that he says he put in £1.3m last year. Not every year. The same meeting also said he'd given up his 50% interest in the OEC business. It's not inconceivable that he sold that to Blitz and Gazal for, perhaps, £1.3m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie_J Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 4 hours ago, opinions4u said: I think, if I recall the notes from NNN, that he says he put in £1.3m last year. Not every year. The same meeting also said he'd given up his 50% interest in the OEC business. It's not inconceivable that he sold that to Blitz and Gazal for, perhaps, £1.3m. Does anyone really believe that if Corney got £1.3m from anything, he'd put it into Latics? If he were doing so, why the hell would the club need to borrow money from Vaughan cronies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, Stevie_J said: Does anyone really believe that if Corney got £1.3m from anything, he'd put it into Latics? If he were doing so, why the hell would the club need to borrow money from Vaughan cronies? The £1.3m will, at a not so wild guess, all be related to the stand and the non-football returns it generates for others. The idea Corney simply stuck a seven figure sum into signing Gerrard, Main, Palmer et al to fend off relegation is ridiculous. In other words, the other two amigos gave him little choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scapegoat Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 18 minutes ago, Stevie_J said: Does anyone really believe that if Corney got £1.3m from anything, he'd put it into Latics? If he were doing so, why the hell would the club need to borrow money from Vaughan cronies? Do people think that SC should be stumping up that kind of money (or even half of that) out of his own resources to keep our club going? I personally don't think he should be expected to, or condemned if he doesn't. He bought a club that was in serious financial trouble, and for the most part has kept the club going reasonably well. Its hand to mouth, and seasons where we don't get a bonus from a cup game / televised game(s) / player sale are obviously more challenging financially. He has stated that he is trying to seek to someone who might be able to put more money in, and there has been a modicum of improvement to our facilities. Id guess in the bottom 2 divisions we are on par with most in terms of financial stability - or lack of. Unless you have a benefactor, it's always a tightrope, and under SC we are still balancing. Mistakes have been made, and more will be made undoubtedly - but I do struggle with the insinuations that SC et al are bleeding the club dry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boundaryblue80 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 (edited) Corney spending £1.3m of his own hard earned cash on us The Diane Abbott of Oldham. Edited May 10, 2017 by boundaryblue80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Presumably someone must be putting some money in at some stage though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Presumably someone must be putting some money in at some stage though... Friends of Mr Vaughan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplythemostimportantkick Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 2 hours ago, Scapegoat said: Do people think that SC should be stumping up that kind of money (or even half of that) out of his own resources to keep our club going? I personally don't think he should be expected to, or condemned if he doesn't. He bought a club that was in serious financial trouble, and for the most part has kept the club going reasonably well. Its hand to mouth, and seasons where we don't get a bonus from a cup game / televised game(s) / player sale are obviously more challenging financially. He has stated that he is trying to seek to someone who might be able to put more money in, and there has been a modicum of improvement to our facilities. Id guess in the bottom 2 divisions we are on par with most in terms of financial stability - or lack of. Unless you have a benefactor, it's always a tightrope, and under SC we are still balancing. Mistakes have been made, and more will be made undoubtedly - but I do struggle with the insinuations that SC et al are bleeding the club dry. Excellent balanced post. You forgot to call somebody a cunt though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickjagger Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 10 hours ago, opinions4u said: Friends of Mr Vaughan. Frankie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 3 hours ago, mickjagger said: Frankie? If only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 18 hours ago, Scapegoat said: Do people think that SC should be stumping up that kind of money (or even half of that) out of his own resources to keep our club going? Well, yes, actually. He is the man making all the decisions, if the balance sheet shows -£1.3m based on what he does then of course he should be finding it. That's what he's fuckin there for isn't it? 'oooh oooh I bought a Football club losing money. Luckily it had loads of land so I transfered it all to a different company and privately rented it out for hundreds of thousands of pounds, whilst I slowly sold it all for millions of pounds, which I kept well away from the Football Club. Now I've ran out of it and the Football Club is still there in a worse state then when I bought it. oooh oooh. Love me you ungrateful peasants.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latics and England Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 7 hours ago, Monty Burns said: Well, yes, actually. He is the man making all the decisions, if the balance sheet shows -£1.3m based on what he does then of course he should be finding it. That's what he's fuckin there for isn't it? 'oooh oooh I bought a Football club losing money. Luckily it had loads of land so I transfered it all to a different company and privately rented it out for hundreds of thousands of pounds, whilst I slowly sold it all for millions of pounds, which I kept well away from the Football Club. Now I've ran out of it and the Football Club is still there in a worse state then when I bought it. oooh oooh. Love me you ungrateful peasants.' Not a million miles from the truth although I think you might be largely referring to Simon Blitz rather than Simon Corney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flemboy Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Even it true then so what...to the buyers the spoiis.They are in buisness and not a registered charity.Remind me again at the third time of asking who they outbidded when they took over the reins? Why didnt you form a consortium to buy the club? Would any other buyer have done better...hypothetical but who knows or can say for sure? Sometimes better the devil you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laticsrblue Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 On 10/05/2017 at 10:59 AM, deyres42 said: Presumably someone must be putting some money in at some stage though... On 10/05/2017 at 11:03 AM, opinions4u said: Friends of Mr Vaughan. Someone has to pay Friends of Vaughan though. Or are they our secret benefactors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeroyboy Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 (edited) 13 hours ago, Monty Burns said: Well, yes, actually. He is the man making all the decisions, if the balance sheet shows -£1.3m based on what he does then of course he should be finding it. That's what he's fuckin there for isn't it? 'oooh oooh I bought a Football club losing money. Luckily it had loads of land so I transfered it all to a different company and privately rented it out for hundreds of thousands of pounds, whilst I slowly sold it all for millions of pounds, which I kept well away from the Football Club. Now I've ran out of it and the Football Club is still there in a worse state then when I bought it. oooh oooh. Love me you ungrateful peasants.' The only people to get us promoted in my lifetime have been local businessmen ( I'm 71). Most people, I'm guessing 99%, buy something (bigger than frivolous) to benefit themselves or their family. If an outsider buys a lower league football club their is something more than fame and the goodwill of the township as motivation. There is no good reason on gods earth why TTA should be jeopardizing their investment on the quicksand of achieving success in league football. That is notwithstanding the mistakes they've made, the financial crisis and slump in the housing market, and don't mention knocking down the Ford Stand. They are doing ok. Comparing possible alternative owners over the last 14yrs is pointless. It's impossible to judge two paths in life. So here we are, still in League 1. Not exactly a disaster but certainly more upsetting for some more than others. The multi millionaire Monty Burns, maybe next up. Edited May 11, 2017 by mikeroyboy wrong word Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Out of interest is Simon Corney a multi millionaire? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 I would say so! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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