Gaz_Oafc Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 First reaction. WTF has he done to derseve that. 2nd reaction. Well at least there's some sort of strategy in place for the long term of the club. I think it could be a good move in the end but might take a couple of years to come to fruition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 :censored:ing hell, is this a piss take? I'm not for one minute suggesting he should be sacked, but how are our recent performances, League position or entertainment value worthy of a three year deal? We are edging precariously close to the drop zone and the guy who is taking us there has just been given a long term contract... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsChris Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 It shows we're planning for the long term, which is something the club have been accused of failing to do in the past. Admittedly it could be costly to get rid, but there could be clauses. We don't know I think this is positive news, though admittedly with a bit of risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laticdickovarmy Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I am glad as it could help attract players as well & a bit of stability at the club but not sure by the timing of it. If it gives the club a boost it can only be good. Have said all along I think LJ is the right man but the guy still needs help with an assistant & back room staff. Fingers crossed he has signed it as the club have offered him a bit of money & help Step in the right direction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Wow. I'd have waited until March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Incredible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pukka Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 :censored:ing hell, is this a piss take? I'm not for one minute suggesting he should be sacked, but how are our recent performances, League position or entertainment value worthy of a three year deal? We are edging precariously close to the drop zone and the guy who is taking us there has just been given a long term contract... This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Seems odd to me. If we stay up then he could've still signed a 4 year deal to make the same long term point, but with the guarantee that we start those 4 years in League One. I'm a fan of LJ, but to me the potential stability of this deal is outweighed by the short term risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 If we did go down no point having wholesale changes How does that one work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 If you think someone is going to be successful, the right time, financially, to give them a new deal is when they are underperforming compared to where you think they will end up. As when they improve they are more in demand and can command a higher wage. The risk you take is if things get worse and you end up having tied an employee down to a long-term deal and you want to get rid of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 It looks like SC is determined LJ will become No. 1 in the longest serving manager list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 If you think someone is going to be successful, the right time, financially, to give them a new deal is when they are underperforming compared to where you think they will end up. As when they improve they are more in demand and can command a higher wage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayItLivo Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 LJ has us flirting with relegation in his first full season and he gets a 4 year contract. Ronnie Moore leads us to just shy of the playoffs in his full season and he gets fired. And they say football is a results business! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Something of the Pardews about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 It looks like SC is determined LJ will become No. 1 in the longest serving manager list. Has SC signed a similar contract ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsslatic Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I'm sure there will be a clause in there saying if we get relegated this season, or below a certain position next etc, he can be sacked without paying up the full term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) When there was talk of giving Dickov getting a long-term deal early on in his time here, I thought that was mental - and we were playing well then! Dowie aside, given the owner's track record of appointing mangers, what are the chances that this is going to end well? Nothing against LJ - fully behind him and all that, but this is a hell of a risk by the club. Edited January 23, 2014 by JoeP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Postman Matt Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 This decision could bankrupt the club....he is a fantastic salesman is our LJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disjointed Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 This decision could bankrupt the club....he is a fantastic salesman is our LJ Sorry, bankrupt? I know I shouldn't take the bait, but sometimes just wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
away dayz Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 How does that one work? Pretty much as it reads but seen as though you have had a go at my posts a few times I'll put it a little simpler for you. If we go down and stick with the manager who will keep the core of the team together (the ones who are good enough) we will have a great chance Of coming back up, he has demonstrated with Rooney and sid if you do to perform your out. If we went down and sacked him we would have a new man come in change most the team maybe play a new style of football you know the chop and change style every year that has stood us in great stead over the past few years?? Anyway I don't think we will go down but hope this explanation helps you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midsblue Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I can understand people's concerns due to this seasons performance but I'm personally really happy about this. It's his first season as a manager and he's shown a lot of promise thus far - 1. Brought in some decent players - Korey Smith being one...even before LJ joined us 2. Creating a team built on exciting, passing play on the pitch 3. Forging some strong links with the likes of Liverpool in the Prem and teams in lower leagues with promising players 4. Shown that he's decisive when striving for success - getting rid of Rooney as one example, Schemltz another 5. Not prepared to take any :censored: from players - again Rooney, Rusnak etc 6. Been unlucky with some players - Montano for obvious reasons 7. Been unlucky with some players failing to deliver - Rooney and Schmeltz 8. Young, driven, enthusiastic...could easily afford not to work I understand due to property empire but wants to manage, wants to succeed and wants to win 9. Connected with the majority of the fans has great PR skills as a manager We've struggled this season but it's his first season and what do you expect with inexperience? He needs a season or two to develop consistency, wheel and deal, imprint his work ethic through the whole team and squad, achieve success. We've been impatient for a while, hiring and firing managers, chopping and changing playing personnel and it's led to failure time and time again. About time we committed to a young, hungry, passionate manager who displaying all the necessary skills and potential Well done LJ and here's to a long and successful career at Oldham Athletic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I'm sick of managers being lauded just because they have good PR skills. I'd rather have a :censored: in charge with no PR skills and win some matches (See Rochdale)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Has SC signed a similar contract ? I think he's staying until the dream, which he had while on a skiing holiday and which he described as leading to his 'Golden Ticket' promotion, comes true: “I don’t know if it was the mountain air but I fell asleep and I dreamed that we were playing Napoli at Boundary Park and there were six people there. In the main stand it was myself and Alan Hardy. Simon Blitz and my ex-girfriend were in the Chaddy End, take from that what you will, and Roberto Mancini and Jose Mourinho were in the Rochdale Road End. I asked Neil Joy after the match how much we had made on the gate and he said nothing, then I woke up". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilStarbucksSilkySkills Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Too much pessimism on here. I'm delighted with this. Stability is a key to success and I think if we were ever going to make this kind of commitment it should be with a dedicated and intelligent manager like Lee Johnson. Of course there's always a chance that this could balls up. But I don't see it this time. I see steady progression under a long term project. That is what we can look forward to now. May The Flying Spaghetti Monster turn my genitalia into noodles if I am wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slash Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 (edited) I can understand people's concerns due to this seasons performance but I'm personally really happy about this. It's his first season as a manager and he's shown a lot of promise thus far - 1. Brought in some decent players - Korey Smith being one...even before LJ joined us 2. Creating a team built on exciting, passing play on the pitch 3. Forging some strong links with the likes of Liverpool in the Prem and teams in lower leagues with promising players 4. Shown that he's decisive when striving for success - getting rid of Rooney as one example, Schemltz another 5. Not prepared to take any :censored: from players - again Rooney, Rusnak etc 6. Been unlucky with some players - Montano for obvious reasons 7. Been unlucky with some players failing to deliver - Rooney and Schmeltz 8. Young, driven, enthusiastic...could easily afford not to work I understand due to property empire but wants to manage, wants to succeed and wants to win 9. Connected with the majority of the fans has great PR skills as a manager We've struggled this season but it's his first season and what do you expect with inexperience? He needs a season or two to develop consistency, wheel and deal, imprint his work ethic through the whole team and squad, achieve success. We've been impatient for a while, hiring and firing managers, chopping and changing playing personnel and it's led to failure time and time again. About time we committed to a young, hungry, passionate manager who displaying all the necessary skills and potential Well done LJ and here's to a long and successful career at Oldham Athletic Regarding point 3. Have I missed something. Who has LJ brought in from Liverpool since he took over? I don't see where everybody gets this impression from. Is it because their manager contributes to the club by paying £4 to attend reserve games? Edited January 23, 2014 by Slash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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