leeslover Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 I'm not sure being Oxbridge educated precludes socialist belief, though it does tend to throw out more than its fair share of Bullingdon club toffs - I make no judgement about whether it's more shameful for a socialist to send her children to a private school or for silver spoon morning suit wearing socialites to spend their student years trashing restaurants. Interesting that the former attracts much more media attention than the latter though, wonder why that is?Cambridge by and large produces homosexual communist double agents. It's unfair to tar both universities with the same brush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Yeah. Back to Ched. Supposing his appeal is successful. Does anyone really still want him? Another year of no football under his belt. There'll still be unbelievable amounts of aggro if we sign him. And we're in the middle of a relegation battle where we need snookers. Ched's the last thing we need. Guess to some people its just the pursuit of three points every Saturday. If it is then I can see why people would happily take Ched. I see it differently and think the moral standing of someone should count for something in such high profile positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wozzer Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Which do you think is better known ...the pig incident or the Abbott's school choice? Of course Oxbridge does not preclude socialist belief and quite rightly......it should however bestow upon its beneficiaries some recognition of the illogicality and hypocrisy of their actions for themselves vis a vis their beliefs for the rest of us. To my knowledge the morning suit wearing toffs have never said people should not join the Bullington Club.....Ms Abbott on the other hand differs in actions and words. But the pig incident is generally portrayed in the media as as posh boy high jinks whilst Abbott (who I'm no apologist for btw) is treated with utter contempt for making a decision (presumably) in the best interests of her children. Of course the Bullingdon boys (particularly vicious right wing :censored: like Osborne and Johnson) can never be treated as hypocrites for betraying their principles because they have none worth betraying. Cameron oddly I find relatively benign compared to the other two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngen Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 No matter how good he was, theres no way he would be at that level having not played for such a long time. And add to that I find it quite unlikely his appeal will overturn his conviction then I think that he wont be having an OAFC shirt on anytime soon. Im not 100% sure Sheridan would be delighted to welcome him anyway, hes not as easy to sidestep as LJ appeared to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Kingsley Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 (edited) Cambridge by and large produces homosexual communist double agents. It's unfair to tar both universities with the same brush. Whereas Oxford by and large produces such paragons of virtue as Edward Heath, Thatcher, Johnson & Osborne. And why is being homosexual worth mentioning? Edited March 4, 2016 by Hank Kingsley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 No matter how good he was, theres no way he would be at that level having not played for such a long time. And add to that I find it quite unlikely his appeal will overturn his conviction then I think that he wont be having an OAFC shirt on anytime soon. Im not 100% sure Sheridan would be delighted to welcome him anyway, hes not as easy to sidestep as LJ appeared to be. If I've understood correctly, the odds are 70/30 in his favour based on other cases that have progressed this far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Whereas Oxford by and large produces such paragons of virtue as Edward Heath, Thatcher, Johnson & Osborne. And why is being homosexual worth mentioning? My massive homophobic, obvs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1onheartNew Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 And why is being homosexual worth mentioning? Well, if you were a homosexual and you went to a gay singles bar, it might be beneficial to mention it then. Otherwise it would have been a complete waste of a night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Well, if you were a homosexual and you went to a gay singles bar, it might be beneficial to mention it then. Otherwise it would have been a complete waste of a night I think it would be wise to mention being straight if you went to such a place ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1onheartNew Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 (edited) I concur. Also helps to not wear a sleeveless shirt. It's much easier to get your point across... Edited March 4, 2016 by L1onheartNew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackey Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 I think it would be wise to mention being straight if you went to such a place ... BS! How'd you get free drinks then!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 BS! How'd you get free drinks then!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeylandLatic Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 (edited) Which do you think is better known ...the pig incident or the Abbott's school choice? Of course Oxbridge does not preclude socialist belief and quite rightly......it should however bestow upon its beneficiaries some recognition of the illogicality and hypocrisy of their actions for themselves vis a vis their beliefs for the rest of us. To my knowledge the morning suit wearing toffs have never said people should not join the Bullington Club.....Ms Abbott on the other hand differs in actions and words. I agree, Ms Abbott should have nailed down her political beliefs well before her 20's and rejected the place at Oxbridge outright in anticipation of her future position on the Labour front bench in 30-40 years time. Typical holier than thou socialist not having her life mapped out by 18, very poor. Edited March 4, 2016 by LeylandLatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 I've more time for Abbott than the likes of Blair and Cameron sending their kids to pseudo-private schools that fall within the state sector but provide educational support most parents can only dream of their kids getting - at taxpayers' expense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magister Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 I agree, Ms Abbott should have nailed down her political beliefs well before her 20's and rejected the place at Oxbridge outright in anticipation of her future position on the Labour front bench in 30-40 years time. Typical holier than thou socialist not having her life mapped out by 18, very poor. She was 50 Years Old when she sent her son to his private independent fee paying school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 I've more time for Abbott than the likes of Blair and Cameron sending their kids to pseudo-private schools that fall within the state sector but provide educational support most parents can only dream of their kids getting - at taxpayers' expense. The majority of schools provide education at the taxpayers' expense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 The majority of schools provide education at the taxpayers' expense I think that you have totally missed the point She was 50 Years Old when she sent her son to his private independent fee paying school. Maybe the other schools were crap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcmetty Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 I think that you have totally missed the point Haha - if you say so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magister Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 I think that you have totally missed the point Maybe the other schools were crap! Surprised to see you of all people extolling the virtues of private education and supporting the right of people to buy advantage when the offer from a labour run council is " crap " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wozzer Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Surprised to see you of all people extolling the virtues of private education and supporting the right of people to buy advantage when the offer from a labour run council is " crap " Not sure I'm the right person to extol the virtues of private education having suffered it myself (last year of direct grant politics fans, I certainly wouldn't have gone had I been a year younger). I can comment on right to buy (I assume that's what you mean) which is the most divisive, vicious policy even Thatcher and her followers managed to come up with (and boy did they try). I have also never stated the offer from this (again I assume you mean Oldham) Labour is "crap" but if it is (which it isn't) it's due to the Tory government's desire to hammer northern Labour councils with plainly unfair settlements. Let's sign Ched though eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 The majority of schools provide education at the taxpayers' expense Yes. But the elite state schools seem to be very good at attracting the children of prime ministers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24hoursfromtulsehill Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Yes, let's sign... ...you had me there. Abbott sending her son to private school was a terrible error. To be fair, that crisis happens to lots of people, and I can't really gainsay the choice because I don't have kids. The choice is this: if you send your kids to the private school, you are automatically interested in bringing about disadvantage to state school kids. No way out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Yes. But the elite state schools seem to be very good at attracting the children of prime ministers. Weird thing that. Party leaders for years were from fairly regular backgrounds with a grammar school education (Wilson, Heath, Callaghan, Thatcher, Kinnock, Hague). Then instead of making schools better for all pupils they made them :censored: for many, including the more able. Hence the massive expansion of fee paying schools. Which cost so much it's worth buying central London property near schools like the Oratory where parents will, "contribute," a fortune so they can say their kids went to a normal school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Surprised to see you of all people extolling the virtues of private education and supporting the right of people to buy advantage when the offer from a labour run council is " crap " I do sometimes wish that my political views were so absolute and so absolutely correct that I could garner affirmation from a facetious comment to justify those beliefs at least to myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Weird thing that. Party leaders for years were from fairly regular backgrounds with a grammar school education (Wilson, Heath, Callaghan, Thatcher, Kinnock, Hague). Then instead of making schools better for all pupils they made them :censored: for many, including the more able. Hence the massive expansion of fee paying schools. Which cost so much it's worth buying central London property near schools like the Oratory where parents will, "contribute," a fortune so they can say their kids went to a normal school. I went to a Grammar school and it was :censored:. Came out with loads of O levels and all the A levels but not much actual education! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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