Blue_Guru Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 LJ is a new manager and knows what gets him to react in these sort of situations but probably needs to realise that it doesn't work for everyone... As a line manage myself some people are wet lettuces and need an arm round a shoulder to bring the best out of them and some people are tough as old boots and new a kicking... Like it it or not that's a reality...and maybe some of the players have spat dummies out at not being LJ's golden boys for a couple of weeks. The only option is for LJ to get all the camp in and ask for feedback from the squad take it on board and ask for a clean slate...then go again. If the players can't get over it they need shipping out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 You don't think we could get a fee? Why would we want to sell our best defender like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Normally when a team score seven, there is at least one very good/spectacular goal. All seven of theirs were awful goals. However, talk of cashing in on our best centre back, vice captain and one of our Players of the Season is nothing short of laughable... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Why would we want to sell our best defender like? He's only our best defender if he's playing to his best, which he certainly isn't doing at the moment. Could be off the mark, but always got the impression he thinks of himself as big-man on campus which is fine when things are going well, but probably not helpful if the tide has turned. Throw in his injury record and I don't think selling would be the worst idea in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveoafc Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 One of the saddest things is, it took a long long time to get such positivity around the place. Fans have become the twelfth man and with the new stand on the horizon everything was looking up. A few more performances like these recent ones and all that will be undone in no time. We need to stop this rot ASAP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latics_Fanatic Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Just seen the goals. What a :censored:ing joke, all soft tap ins. Surely Kenny can't survive as first choice keeper now?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 He's only our best defender if he's playing to his best, which he certainly isn't doing at the moment. Could be off the mark, but always got the impression he thinks of himself as big-man on campus which is fine when things are going well, but probably not helpful if the tide has turned. Throw in his injury record and I don't think selling would be the worst idea in the world. Even at 33%, he is our best defender. Injury record? Has he even been injured since he joined us... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Even at 33%, he is our best defender. Injury record? Has he even been injured since he joined us... Don't think so, but his career before us suggests there always could be one around the corner (hopefully not, obviously..). If this run continues into the New Year, I wouldn't blame the club for cashing in on it's most saleable asset. Not saying we should, but I wouldn't knock the club for doing so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Mr Shankly Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Is Lockwood fit yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super_blue Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Just seen the goals. What a :censored:ing joke, all soft tap ins. Surely Kenny can't survive as first choice keeper now?! From what I've heard he played well and it could have been 12 without him between the sticks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaddy_Ender Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 From what I've heard he played well and it could have been 12 without him between the sticks! Youve heard wrong from picking up the back pass to the last minute he was poor gives the impression playing in League 1 is all a bit below him, Id send him straight back to Bolton in fact if they want me to take him back it wouldnt be too much trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavageTheBeast Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 The games gone now, Crewe is a big test of character and is the biggest game of the season so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josh_latics Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 I didn't go, so basing all of this from the highlights. But I don't think Kenny's at fault (bar the last one). Why is nobody marking anyone at any point?! So many goals where their forward has just walked away from our defender and can tap it in. Madness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc0000 Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Let. The. Over. The. Top. Reactions. Begin.... The ultimate example of a happy clapper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejh45 Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Have stayed away from the board because I was very p*ssed off with yesterday but managed to last until the 6th goal went in. My thoughts are: 1) Kenny doesn't appear to be organising the defence in the way that Rachubka did. 2) Nobody got a grip of our midfield and, IMO, that's where our problem arose from. MK, time after time, very easily passed their way through........I would have brought Tidser on to play alongside Dieng not replace him. 3) Why, when we had Philliskirk and Johnson up front did we keep lumping the ball up to them? 4) Finally, and this is a coaching problem, why can't we keep the ball on the floor.........so many simple, short passes were in the air so the recipient had to bring the ball down to control it by which time he was closed down by MK. Oh, and a final point, when are going to use gamesmanship like MK..........Bowditch was, at every free kick, making life awkward for our defenders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slystallone Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 The ultimate example of a happy clapper Ha! From the ultimate example of doesnt bother to go anymore? Cheers, all the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 I've updated the highlights thread with an alternative piece of viewing. You'll probably prefer it. http://www.owtb.co.uk/index.php/topic/45860-201415-video-highlights-brought-to-you-by-playershare/?p=748359 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opinions4u Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Away following yesterday was 400 according to this. http://bit.ly/1CpxUQD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24hoursfromtulsehill Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Don't get me started on the :censored:ing attendance. 8,000 my arse. Absolutely no way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Don't get me started on the :censored:ing attendance. 8,000 my arse. Absolutely no way. They included the people in ASDA... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Comment in the Chron: I will leave a comment whether it gets posted or not is a different matter, i can't understand why people support latics your never gonna get any glory your suporting a loser..lol MUFC till i die! By Saddleworth's Finest @ 20/12/2014 20:38:22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc_lover Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Comment in the Chron: Definitely a head in hands moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Comment in the Chron: I will leave a comment whether it gets posted or not is a different matter, i can't understand why people support latics your never gonna get any glory your suporting a loser..lol MUFC till i die! By Saddleworth's Finest @ 20/12/2014 20:38:22 Has Latics Lee moved to Saddleworth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tringerlatic42 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 LJ is a new manager and knows what gets him to react in these sort of situations but probably needs to realise that it doesn't work for everyone... As a line manage myself some people are wet lettuces and need an arm round a shoulder to bring the best out of them and some people are tough as old boots and new a kicking... Like it it or not that's a reality...and maybe some of the players have spat dummies out at not being LJ's golden boys for a couple of weeks. The only option is for LJ to get all the camp in and ask for feedback from the squad take it on board and ask for a clean slate...then go again. If the players can't get over it they need shipping out! I agree fully with the last para- the only variation I would add is to invite players to respond anonymously and that way any feed back against his input and tactics can be fed back with out without fear of being shunned for stating opinions. What I just cannot get to grips with is how a team that was doing so well and being praised for character and unity can suddenly make such a complete turn around. Something deeper than tactics, Paddy Kenny, Kelly missing, must be wrong and if that can be found out then only can the ship be steadied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 (edited) I agree fully with the last para- the only variation I would add is to invite players to respond anonymously and that way any feed back against his input and tactics can be fed back with out without fear of being shunned for stating opinions. What I just cannot get to grips with is how a team that was doing so well and being praised for character and unity can suddenly make such a complete turn around. Something deeper than tactics, Paddy Kenny, Kelly missing, must be wrong and if that can be found out then only can the ship be steadied. Get your money on; http://www.theguardian.com/football/2005/sep/23/sport.comment Edited December 22, 2014 by BP1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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