Scapegoat Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 You do all realise we're second bottom of league 1 and he's our best player? I do. And in a perfect (well not even perfect, but a less crappy) world we would keep him and make other changes to the squad. However, with Clarke we are still second bottom, and without something different are going down. We have to hope that Gerard in place of Clarke can keep the defensive unity together that we have seen, and that the money and wages from Clarke can be used to fix our big problem of lack of goals. I like Clarke a lot. Him and Ripley have been players of the season for me so far - but would I swap Clarke for Gerrard + some improvements to the midfield/forward line? Yes. Not happily, but I think it might be a necessary 'shuffling of the titanic deckchairs' as someone mentioned that we need to survive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whittles left foot Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Chesterfield having a busy day , 2 in already one of them known to us. Reece Brown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 oh I see they want to sign him to lock up there defence and gain promotion, and play a 36yo c/b in the championship? Probably not thinking that far ahead, might just help them win promotion though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Save on his wages Get money in for him Use the wages/money to get in the creative player(s) we desperately need Keep and play Edmondson along side Gerrard so he can develop with us Some reasons why this may be a good deal for us. Big IFs mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardOafc Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Probably not thinking that far ahead, might just help them win promotion though. probably will,not bad business for £30k is it? And we lose a stand out player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 £30k and potentially could be the final nail in the relegation coffin, its laughable that other clubs think they can take our best outfield player for a pittance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stagger Lee Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 You do all realise we're second bottom of league 1 and he's our best player? Last year we sold our top scorer while in a similar position - worked out well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 oh I see they want to sign him to lock up there defence and gain promotion, and play a 36yo c/b in the championship? Clarke is a lot closer to a Championship centre half than bloody Gerrard is anyway. £30K my arse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor evil Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 For those who think £30K is a bit short,what would you value Clarke at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 For those who think £30K is a bit short,what would you value Clarke at? To a club trying to buy a player for a position that they need in order to try for promotion a lot closer to £100K. It is not so much as what value he has to us which I still think is high to try to keep us up. It is more the riches of the Championship which Scunthorpe are trying to attain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 For those who think £30K is a bit short,what would you value Clarke at? He was probably a big wage earner too, which may have been a factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueatheart Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 For those who think £30K is a bit short,what would you value Clarke at? Whats the value in the lost ticket sales and TV money between league one and two? I'm making figures up, but I'm saying the TV money is £80k and lost ticket sales would equate to at least another (8000 fewer adult tickets sold) £160k. So they can have him for the bargain price of £240k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Depends on how much we need him out to fund other players. If the deal doesn't happen do we then miss out on our targets? They may have other options too. Makes our bargaining position weaker. That doesn't help with any of our deals - we generally need the money, we're generally at the bottom of the league and in a bit of a desperate situation, so we can generally get pushed around more when it comes to negotiations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Whats the value in the lost ticket sales and TV money between league one and two? I'm making figures up, but I'm saying the TV money is £80k and lost ticket sales would equate to at least another (8000 fewer adult tickets sold) £160k. So they can have him for the bargain price of £240k. I'm not sure season tickets would go down if fans thought we could bounce straight back, also a winning team in Division 2 could increase the pay on the day fans. Hopefully though it won't come to that and we stay in this division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaddySmoker Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 That doesn't help with any of our deals - we generally need the money, we're generally at the bottom of the league and in a bit of a desperate situation, so we can generally get pushed around more when it comes to negotiations. So generally we are in the :censored: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueatheart Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 I'm not sure season tickets would go down if fans thought we could bounce straight back, also a winning team in Division 2 could increase the pay on the day fans. Hopefully though it won't come to that and we stay in this division. I was thinking of travelling support to BP. We won't be getting Sheff U, Bolton, Bradford et al. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 I was thinking of travelling support to BP. We won't be getting Sheff U, Bolton, Bradford et al. Ah, with you now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzlatic Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 So generally we are in the :censored: Ha, yes, pretty much. Some small positive shoots of recovery with Gerrard and Holloway on long term deals. And Shez back to stay (for longer than a few months hopefully). If we can improve our overall position we can be more bullish when it comes to negotiation, but at the moment I can see how other clubs can take advantage of our position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 (edited) Average away following is 400 less in League 2 400 x £20 = £8,000 23 x £8,000 = £180,000 Solidarity payment is significantly lower as well, a £30,000 fee is nothing if we get relegated, we spunked £100,000 plus on a pointless season ticket offer yet want to offload our one standout outfield player for a pittance. Edited January 31, 2017 by yarddog73 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danoafc Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Shez has said we need to score goals, clean sheets won't keep us up now. If this allows us to bring in two footballing midfielders it could be the right move. This. We could keep a clean sheet in every single game from now until the end of the season and we'd still go down if we don't start scoring. I'd like us to keep Clarke in an ideal world but we need to start winning regularly and we haven't looked like doing that all season with the current personnel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Average away following is 400 less in League 2 400 x £20 = £8,000 23 x £8,000 = £180,000 Solidarity payment is significantly lower as well, a £30,000 fee is nothing if we get relegated, we spunked £100,000 plus on a pointless season ticket offer yet want to offload our one standout outfield player for a pittance. We probably don't want to though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticMark Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 @Matt_Chambers_ Latics trying hard on various fronts. Not least to keep hold of Peter Clarke. #oafc @Matt_Chambers_ Difficult though when a player makes it clear he wants to go. #oafc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0ndl1ne Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Clarke is a good threat at set pieces but he hasn't been as invincible as people think lately. He will be on a good wage and we've managed without him. Players of his age can get 'old' almost overnight. Been a great help the first part of the season but I'd let him go if it guaranteed the other players we need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_mighty_bosh Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 @Matt_Chambers_ Latics trying hard on various fronts. Not least to keep hold of Peter Clarke. #oafc @Matt_Chambers_ Difficult though when a player makes it clear he wants to go. #oafc Clarke was one of our 2 best players in the 1st half of the season, but if he goes to allow us to strengthen in other areas I have no problem with it. Especially if he wants to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horlicks Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 He has been our best outfield player by a country mile so would be gutted to see him go. While on the face of it a good move for Clarke there is an excellent chance Scunthorpe will get promoted and can you see him playing in the Championship next season, I personally wouldn't think so. He would therefore be faced with not being a regular and he does not strike me as someone happy to be on the bench or finding a new club next season. I also don't want him to go as I would like to bear witness to the Calvin Andrew retribution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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