LaticsPete Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 2 minutes ago, jorvik_latic said: Paul Dickov? Good one. 2 sub appearances! Have amended list . Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsPete Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 15 minutes ago, singe said: Tony Philliskirk if you add his games together. Scottish International Jimmy McMullan as Player Manager and some as Manager before he left for Villa. In addition, if you don't use the 10 game yardstick, TP David Eyres As an aside Andrew Wilson's brother David played 406 games for us. McMullan isn't credited as making an appearance for Latics in any of the reference books though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nohairdontcare Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Fair play to Mike Keegan - his Scholes story was spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, LaticsPete said: McMullan isn't credited as making an appearance for Latics in any of the reference books though Out of interest, who does it say managed us between May 1933 and May 1934 in the reference books? I can find quite a few refences http://www.leaguemanagers.com/managers/jimmy-mcmullan/ http://www.falkirkherald.co.uk/sport/football/remembering-jimmy-mcmullan-1-2279922 http://www.soccerbase.com/managers/manager.sd?manager_id=734 http://www.managerstats.co.uk/managers/jimmy-mcmullan/ http://www.doingthe92.com/display_player.asp?step=451&ID=-1&tid=10&pid=52461 Edited October 19, 2017 by singe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardie Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 1 hour ago, singe said: No one said we are 5 points from Play off final but we would 5 points of a play off place if we win the game in hand and would be on a great run, and in the mix as anyone else. The point is clearly that we would not be far off the pace, and in a chance of being competitive. That is exactly how I would see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 8 minutes ago, Wardie said: That is exactly how I would see it. It's conceivable our season would start in January. Again. But for better reasons this year!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAC0AFC Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 8 hours ago, Andy Perimeter West said: So who do we think the assistant is going to be? John Sheridan? haha jokes guys jokes Ha ha ha ha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsPete Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 (edited) 52 minutes ago, singe said: Out of interest, who does it say managed us between May 1933 and May 1934 in the reference books? I can find quite a few refences http://www.leaguemanagers.com/managers/jimmy-mcmullan/ http://www.falkirkherald.co.uk/sport/football/remembering-jimmy-mcmullan-1-2279922 http://www.soccerbase.com/managers/manager.sd?manager_id=734 http://www.managerstats.co.uk/managers/jimmy-mcmullan/ http://www.doingthe92.com/display_player.asp?step=451&ID=-1&tid=10&pid=52461 McMullan - but purely a manager. In all the books about Latics he is just that , never playing. E.g. Latics Lads Latics Legends Oldham Athletic A Complete Record A-Z of Oldham Athletic Oldham Athletic 1915-39 In the third of those there are match by match lineups and he isn't listed in any I'm afraid Edited October 19, 2017 by LaticsPete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudemedic Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 6 hours ago, deyres42 said: Shrewsbury virtually guaranteed a top 6 place already, no reason to think they will fall away. Apart from the fact they are Shrewsbury. Someone who is up there or thereabouts round Xmas usually falls into the bottom half (as a minimum) by the end of the season. Shrewsbury look like strong contenders for that role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 31 minutes ago, rudemedic said: Apart from the fact they are Shrewsbury. Someone who is up there or thereabouts round Xmas usually falls into the bottom half (as a minimum) by the end of the season. Shrewsbury look like strong contenders for that role. The shot data says not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeroyboy Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 (edited) 20 hours ago, robboman said: I looked back to 2010 and I’m sure 74 points was highest number of points to clinch 6th so we need 60 points out of 33 games. My maths makes that 1.82 points per game from now on I apologise for the error of putting in the 2.2 to achieve 74pts for the season. It was made by taking the wrong figure from my scribblings. Of course the 1.82 is accurate and more easily achievable. You are also correct 74pts being the highest achieved in recent years. I only used the last 2yrs as a realistic target. 74pts may or may not be enough this time. The 69pt total that someone else mentioned from 3yrs ago is the lowest 6th place this century and the next lowest is 71 but that has only been enough 3 times.78 has been deeded once, 76 twice, 75 twice and 74 four, 73 three and 72 once. The grand average is 73.47 over 17 seasons. The more input the more accurate the average. Top six is certainly not as difficult has my post suggested but there are more booby traps in League football season than any of us realize. Also my ramblings are generally based on what 'is' and what's 'happened' not related to the multi-choice world of guessing the future. Sorry again for the fracas folks. Edited October 19, 2017 by mikeroyboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryBosch Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 2 hours ago, deyres42 said: The shot data says not. Where do you find this shot data you keep banging on about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Just now, HarryBosch said: Where do you find this shot data you keep banging on about? Subscription but Footstats.co.uk is handy enough as a free site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 4 hours ago, LaticsPete said: McMullan - but purely a manager. In all the books about Latics he is just that , never playing. E.g. Latics Lads Latics Legends Oldham Athletic A Complete Record A-Z of Oldham Athletic Oldham Athletic 1915-39 In the third of those there are match by match lineups and he isn't listed in any I'm afraid Right I see what you mean. Perhaps it is fair have to have a minimum appearance time too, as there is a minimum number of matches as manager. Dickov who hadn't played even a half a match, let alone a whole match. If you have to discount TP and his 9 games. Dickov played 4 mins (and got a booking!) and 13 mins a total of 17 minutes! Or include both! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astottie Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 (edited) On 19 October 2017 at 8:28 PM, mikeroyboy said: I apologise for the error of putting in the 2.2 to achieve 74pts for the season. It was made by taking the wrong figure from my scribblings. Of course the 1.82 is accurate and more easily achievable. You are also correct 74pts being the highest achieved in recent years. I only used the last 2yrs as a realistic target. 74pts may or may not be enough this time. The 69pt total that someone else mentioned from 3yrs ago is the lowest 6th place this century and the next lowest is 71 but that has only been enough 3 times.78 has been deeded once, 76 twice, 75 twice and 74 four, 73 three and 72 once. The grand average is 73.47 over 17 seasons. The more input the more accurate the average. Top six is certainly not as difficult has my post suggested but there are more booby traps in League football season than any of us realize. Also my ramblings are generally based on what 'is' and what's 'happened' not related to the multi-choice world of guessing the future. Sorry again for the fracas folks. Before every season I set down how many points we should require for the play offs and then make a suggestion as to how we might get them. I know too much time on my hands and I've normally lost interest by now.This year I went for 72 points as I thought the league is more even than last year. To get to that total I went for 20 wins 12 draws and 14 losses. I then had a punt at how that might look against the teams we had to play, and ended up with no points ( I.e. Lose home and away) - Wigan, Blackburn one point ( I.e. Draw home lose away) -Bradford, Peterborough, Scunthorpe , bury three points - Rotherham, Charlton, Oxford,Portsmouth,Southend, Walsall four points - Blackpool ,Fleetwood, Bristol R,MKD, Wimbledon, Rochdale , Plymouth, Doncaster six points- Northampton,Gillingham, Shrewsbury obviously my my assessment of bury and Shrewsbury has gone awry but if you look at how I've specced it out we are currently one point ahead of where we need to be to get 72 points. Happy days? Still a point ahead after MKD Edited November 2, 2017 by astottie Doncaster added Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevesidg Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 6 hours ago, astottie said: Before every season I set down how many points we should require for the play offs and then make a suggestion as to how we might get them. I know too much time on my hands and I've normally lost interest by now.This year I went for 72 points as I thought the league is more even than last year. To get to that total I went for 20 wins 12 draws and 14 losses. I then had a punt at how that might look against the teams we had to play, and ended up with no points ( I.e. Lose home and away) - Wigan, Blackburn one point ( I.e. Draw home lose away) -Bradford, Peterborough, Scunthorpe , bury three points - Rotherham, Charlton, Oxford,Portsmouth,Southend, Walsall four points - Blackpool ,Fleetwood, Bristol R,MKD, Wimbledon, Rochdale , Plymouth six points- Northampton,Gillingham, Shrewsbury obviously my my assessment of bury and Shrewsbury has gone awry but if you look at how I've specced it out we are currently one point ahead of where we need to be to get 72 points. Happy days? Play offs it is then at least a draw against MKF tomorrow and a win against Bury on Tuesday and we're ahead of your target Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeroyboy Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 10 hours ago, astottie said: Before every season I set down how many points we should require for the play offs and then make a suggestion as to how we might get them. I know too much time on my hands and I've normally lost interest by now.This year I went for 72 points as I thought the league is more even than last year. To get to that total I went for 20 wins 12 draws and 14 losses. I then had a punt at how that might look against the teams we had to play, and ended up with no points ( I.e. Lose home and away) - Wigan, Blackburn one point ( I.e. Draw home lose away) -Bradford, Peterborough, Scunthorpe , bury three points - Rotherham, Charlton, Oxford,Portsmouth,Southend, Walsall four points - Blackpool ,Fleetwood, Bristol R,MKD, Wimbledon, Rochdale , Plymouth six points- Northampton,Gillingham, Shrewsbury obviously my my assessment of bury and Shrewsbury has gone awry but if you look at how I've specced it out we are currently one point ahead of where we need to be to get 72 points. Happy days? My pre-season ramble, after our second Houdini escape was to be threatening the top six this season instead of the bottom four. My optimism soon dwindled when the booby traps kicked in. Still no funds, few players signed, a dreadful start and our hero 'released'. Debatably, the worst start of the last three seasons. Wellen's taking over and a 10pts out of 12 start has got us back on track somewhat, but still a long way to go and unseen booby traps to surface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astottie Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 (edited) On 20 October 2017 at 0:03 AM, astottie said: Before every season I set down how many points we should require for the play offs and then make a suggestion as to how we might get them. I know too much time on my hands and I've normally lost interest by now.This year I went for 72 points as I thought the league is more even than last year. To get to that total I went for 20 wins 12 draws and 14 losses. I then had a punt at how that might look against the teams we had to play, and ended up with no points ( I.e. Lose home and away) - Wigan, Blackburn one point ( I.e. Draw home lose away) -Bradford, Peterborough, Scunthorpe , bury three points - Rotherham, Charlton, Oxford,Portsmouth,Southend, Walsall four points - Blackpool ,Fleetwood, Bristol R,MKD, Wimbledon, Rochdale , Plymouth six points- Northampton,Gillingham, Shrewsbury obviously my my assessment of bury and Shrewsbury has gone awry but if you look at how I've specced it out we are currently one point ahead of where we need to be to get 72 points. Happy days? Still a point ahead after MKD Now 3 points ahead after Bury. still 2 points to the good after scunny Edited October 30, 2017 by astottie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 (edited) Check out the form table fopr the last 6 matches http://uk.soccerway.com/national/england/league-one/20172018/regular-season/r41820/tables/?ICID=PL_3N_03 Wish I knew how to drag files or choose files and for it to work Edited October 25, 2017 by singe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 (edited) 25 minutes ago, singe said: Check out the form table fopr the last 6 matches http://uk.soccerway.com/national/england/league-one/20172018/regular-season/r41820/tables/?ICID=PL_3N_03 Wish I knew how to drag files or choose files and for it to work On a par with Shrewsbury, Oxford and Charlton over the last five matches. Only the plastics are better. Edited October 25, 2017 by TheBigDog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorvik_latic Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 49 minutes ago, singe said: Check out the form table fopr the last 6 matches http://uk.soccerway.com/national/england/league-one/20172018/regular-season/r41820/tables/?ICID=PL_3N_03 Wish I knew how to drag files or choose files and for it to work Will be interesting to see an updated version of this - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 (edited) Not including last night we had the second best shots on target scored ratio and the worst shots on target saved ratio. Edited October 25, 2017 by deyres42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 27 minutes ago, jorvik_latic said: Will be interesting to see an updated version of this - Yes! And just for RW's game too! i might ask! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singe Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 (edited) 8 hours ago, singe said: Yes! And just for RW's game too! i might ask! He replied! Moved a bit, but a few more like the last 6 wil improve things. Edited October 25, 2017 by singe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jorvik_latic Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 1 hour ago, singe said: He replied! Moved a bit, but a few more like the last 6 wil improve things. Nice one ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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