Lee Sinnott Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Just now, Dave_Og said: Semantics. Possibly Well it took months to finally liquadite Bury and Macclesfield. There's no way Oldham (without any winding up petitions or court orders) would have been liquidated in days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteG Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: Semantics. Possibly Why would the previous owner have wanted us liquidating rather than sell the club for a sum of money (substantial amount of money if you believe the £12m quoted!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: Well it took months to finally liquadite Bury and Macclesfield. There's no way Oldham (without any winding up petitions or court orders) would have been liquidated in days... they fought it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Just now, PeteG said: Why would the previous owner have wanted us liquidating rather than sell the club for a sum of money (substantial amount of money if you believe the £12m quoted!) Yep, Al got £12m. If it had gone into admin the decision would not have been his Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 19 minutes ago, nzlatic said: I honestly don't understand the obsession with 442. I could understand wanting a back 4 rather than a back 3/5. But why 442? Do many successful teams play that any more? We don't have either the wingers or the midfielders for it. funny init. we shud sack Rhino, put Joe in Charge, move the KO to 3:15pm, play 442, sign Ian Marshall and make all the players smoke 20 a day, drink 8 pints of mild and eat nothing but puddin on a muffin all day, every day, every damn day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlossopLatic Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 21 minutes ago, nzlatic said: I honestly don't understand the obsession with 442. I could understand wanting a back 4 rather than a back 3/5. But why 442? Do many successful teams play that any more? We don't have either the wingers or the midfielders for it. Nostalgia probably. It's just not the skeleton key to unlocking this squad that people think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Dave_Og said: Yep, Al got £12m. If it had gone into admin the decision would not have been his AL did not get £12M. wouldnt be surprised if Blitz got more than AL seeing as his holdings were/are tangible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 21 minutes ago, nzlatic said: I honestly don't understand the obsession with 442. I could understand wanting a back 4 rather than a back 3/5. But why 442? Do many successful teams play that any more? We don't have either the wingers or the midfielders for it. It's not an obsession, but 4-4-2 is straight-forward, balanced and can be entertaining to watch. I couldn't care less what formation we play as long as it gets results and (to a lesser extent at this stage) is enjoyable to watch. At the moment, the way Big Dave is setting us up is getting neither of those things and I don't think we should be writing off all games between now and when (if..) he gets "his" players in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, Monty Burns said: AL did not get £12M. wouldnt be surprised if Blitz got more than AL seeing as his holdings were/are tangible. No, I do realise that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximus1267 Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 33 minutes ago, PeteG said: Well we could only be 5 places lower tbf And a million times worse off the pitch. We got what we wanted, at least give them more than 3 months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteG Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Just now, Dave_Og said: No, I do realise that So why did you say he got £12m?? That £12m figure is an absolute myth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, PeteG said: So why did you say he got £12m?? That £12m figure is an absolute myth. FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 31 minutes ago, nzlatic said: I honestly don't understand the obsession with 442. I could understand wanting a back 4 rather than a back 3/5. But why 442? Do many successful teams play that any more? We don't have either the wingers or the midfielders for it. Unsworth would ideally play 4-3-3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: No, I do realise that ok ok jus with you sayin 'AL got £12M' l thought you meant AL got £12M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Monty Burns said: ok ok jus with you sayin 'AL got £12M' l thought you meant AL got £12M i mut make better use of the sarcasm emoji. It was @PeteG who said the club was sold for £12m which is obviously bollocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, PeteG said: So why did you say he got £12m?? That £12m figure is an absolute myth. been waiting for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximus1267 Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, JoeP said: It's not an obsession, but 4-4-2 is straight-forward, balanced and can be entertaining to watch. I couldn't care less what formation we play as long as it gets results and (to a lesser extent at this stage) is enjoyable to watch. At the moment, the way Big Dave is setting us up is getting neither of those things and I don't think we should be writing off all games between now and when (if..) he gets "his" players in... Doesnt matter what formation we play, poor players = poor team = poor results. I played football up until 47 years of age.... a few decent players with 8 bad ones is still going to struggle. Let unsworth change the players, if it takes until the summer then thats what we have. If we can bring in some now then good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, maximus1267 said: And a million times worse off the pitch. We got what we wanted, at least give them more than 3 months its barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Just now, Dave_Og said: they fought it The way the stadium had been neglected, a complete lack of corporate and sponsorship income, and a significant drop in season ticket sales all at a time the playing squad needed replenishing coupled with a total lack of interest from the owners, I don’t think liquidation was too far away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Anyone describing our system as resembling a 3-5-2 needs their head testing along with Unsworth, it's a 5-4-1 at best and generally a 7-2-1. I don't personally care how we set up it's Unsworths lack of tactical awareness that bothers me, he uses players fitness as an excuse when the reality is most teams after showing us half hour of respect work us out, adjust accordingly and generally go on to get something out of the game, that's where your manager earns his salt, something Joe Royle and Willie were very good at even in the late 80's and early 90's, teams are seeing us sit in and just commit more men forward, when we win the ball back they know they will have time to get back in and reorganise because there is no urgency in our forward play nor was there any pace up front prior to the Halifax game. We are predictable, slow and easy to play against and it will change when we have more of an attacking threat and midfielders who can firstly keep the ball and secondly do something with it, teams are not worried about us going forward and the second goal against Yeovil is a prime example as they committed literally everyman forward in search of the equaliser and we just about did them on the counter despite ending up with about four on one. They'll back Unsworth now as they should but he needs to have a look at himself sometimes as tactically I think he is naive, what struck me in this league is the quality of manager particularly at clubs like Dorking and Wealdstone, clubs operating on budgets much smaller than ours but these guys know the time of day and work us out, just because you've played for Everton and England counts for fuck all when your in the dugout particularly at this level and his body language and attitude at Altrincham was shocking for me and if a player behaved in that way you'd never want him to pull on the shirt again, probably reasons behind it but I didn't like it. Since Shez has gone we are worse and that's a fact and that is the big worry for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 13 minutes ago, maximus1267 said: Doesnt matter what formation we play, poor players = poor team = poor results. I played football up until 47 years of age.... a few decent players with 8 bad ones is still going to struggle. Let unsworth change the players, if it takes until the summer then thats what we have. If we can bring in some now then good. As long as the summer isn't spent preparing for our first season in National League North. It's about quality of players, but it's also getting the best out of what you've got - getting enough people on board to make your approach effective and I'm not convinced this is happening at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteG Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 19 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: i mut make better use of the sarcasm emoji. It was @PeteG who said the club was sold for £12m which is obviously bollocks I have never said it was sold for £12m, that's the figure that's been put out, quite frankly i think it's laughable that people believe the new owner has spent that. I also believe it's bollocks we were days from going out of business. I don't know why they are peddling this shit, is it to cover their own shortfalls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 1 minute ago, PeteG said: I have never said it was sold for £12m, that's the figure that's been put out, quite frankly i think it's laughable that people believe the new owner has spent that. I also believe it's bollocks we were days from going out of business. I don't know why they are peddling this shit, is it to cover their own shortfalls? Any update on the court case Pete? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteG Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Just now, League one forever said: Any update on the court case Pete? I believe it was settled out of court in order to facilitate the sale but who knows the real truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximus1267 Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, JoeP said: As long as the summer isn't spent preparing for our first season in National League North. It's about quality of players, but it's also getting the best out of what you've got - getting enough people on board to make your approach effective and I'm not convinced this is happening at the moment. I agree but if you watch some of those players they are extremely poor, Threlkheld cant make a simple pass, has no vision to move the ball forward quickly, there are others with similar traits. All unsworth can do is use what he as at the minute until he weeds out the rubbish and replaces them but we are 3 months into a season so not that easy to just get rid of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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