ceskylatic Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 15 minutes ago, BP1960 said: Chapman and Shelton have no drive, hence the previous pedestrian midfield performances. At least when Gardner is fit he shows zest and ups the tempo. He makes mistakes, but we have previously had players frightened of making mistakes - leaving us with a negative team. Gardner and Rooney changed that last night for the better. I get you don't like Gardner and relish posting his faults, but praise for changing the game last night should be acknowledged. Not sure that’s right about Shelton having no drive. He’s a box to box midfielder, or at least was under his previous managers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 3 hours ago, Lee Sinnott said: I doubt it. It would have been 2 defeats in 6 - not many managers get sacked for that kinda form. If we aren't top 4 by November 2023, then part ways... Which division? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrek Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 2 hours ago, kowenicki said: This. People missing the fact Gardner gave the ball away quite a bit last night for some inexplicable reason. one was s suicidal pass that we were lucky wasn’t converted by Dag. Ironically, the best goal of the evening came from an awful attempted cross from Gardner that was easily cleared. Luckily it fell straight to Sheron. He gives it away at times because he tries things. The other midfielders we have used (not Rooney) either give the ball away, lump it or just pass it back. DG and JR will give the ball away at times but they'll also create far far more than we usually do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrek Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 The more I think about Askey turning up like some seedy old man while the jobs not vacant the less I like him. I am fully hoping Unsworth turns this round now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 1 hour ago, ceskylatic said: Not sure that’s right about Shelton having no drive. He’s a box to box midfielder, or at least was under his previous managers. Not seen him near either box too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wardie Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 4 hours ago, Shrek said: The more I think about Askey turning up like some seedy old man while the jobs not vacant the less I like him. I am fully hoping Unsworth turns this round now. I don't think he turned up uninvited, somehow...unless he's scouting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frizzell54 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 5 hours ago, Shrek said: The more I think about Askey turning up like some seedy old man while the jobs not vacant the less I like him. I am fully hoping Unsworth turns this round now. It’s in your hands David. Just keep winning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigfatjoe1 Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 5 hours ago, Shrek said: The more I think about Askey turning up like some seedy old man while the jobs not vacant the less I like him. I am fully hoping Unsworth turns this round now. I don't get it. His record is very ordinary, at best. Ambition - Wild. If not, then someone like Greening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrek Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 33 minutes ago, bigfatjoe1 said: I don't get it. His record is very ordinary, at best. Ambition - Wild. If not, then someone like Greening. Wild is ambitious? Not sure what he's actually achieved really. Seems a decent manager from a far but ambitious? Halifax, still here. Barrow, league two mid table. He's hardly unique. Ambitious for me would be a Cowley or someone with a similar trajectory. All pie in the sky at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaticsPete Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 13 hours ago, Shrek said: Wild is ambitious? Not sure what he's actually achieved really. Seems a decent manager from a far but ambitious? Halifax, still here. Barrow, league two mid table. He's hardly unique. Ambitious for me would be a Cowley or someone with a similar trajectory. All pie in the sky at this point. Crowley trajectory has , to say the least, stalled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 16 hours ago, Shrek said: Wild is ambitious? Not sure what he's actually achieved really. Seems a decent manager from a far but ambitious? Halifax, still here. Barrow, league two mid table. He's hardly unique. Have a listen to the Phone-In from last night - Wild is ambitious, but is just being clever about it. He's not rushing to the top to "fall off a cliff" in his words, but taking his time, learning all he can and making a career out of it. It was really interesting what he had to say - he's a very astute manager. Particularly relevant to us was that he insists on having the final say on recruitment, in spite of the background research from other departments of the football club and also why it's important to persevere with Plan A and not panic and go straight to Plan B (although I do wonder what you'd do if Plan A is rubbish to start with!!). I'd love it if he came back here, however I think it'd be clubs who are above where he is now who'll be after him rather than ones beneath! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 1 hour ago, JoeP said: I'd love it if he came back here, however I think it'd be clubs who are above where he is now who'll be after him rather than ones beneath! I get the impression he would love to come back at some point. I also think he would even be prepared to drop down a division if he had to as under our current ownership we are a far more attractive proposition than Barrow. We were a proper basket case when he left the club and it was probably too soon for him anyway. I would love Unsworth to succeed here but having a fan as an owner and a fan as manager would be be brilliant. A successful Rothwell / Wild combination could really get this town’s football club absolutely rocking!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 On 2/8/2023 at 3:17 PM, BP1960 said: Chapman and Shelton have no drive, hence the previous pedestrian midfield performances. At least when Gardner is fit he shows zest and ups the tempo. He makes mistakes, but we have previously had players frightened of making mistakes - leaving us with a negative team. Gardner and Rooney changed that last night for the better. I get you don't like Gardner and relish posting his faults, but praise for changing the game last night should be acknowledged. Rooney had a better game than Gardner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 1 hour ago, oafc1955 said: I get the impression he would love to come back at some point. I also think he would even be prepared to drop down a division if he had to as under our current ownership we are a far more attractive proposition than Barrow. We were a proper basket case when he left the club and it was probably too soon for him anyway. I would love Unsworth to succeed here but having a fan as an owner and a fan as manager would be be brilliant. A successful Rothwell / Wild combination could really get this town’s football club absolutely rocking!! He's won 1 game in 11... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 16 minutes ago, kowenicki said: Rooney had a better game than Gardner. Gardner has just set his bar very, very low Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Lee Sinnott said: He's won 1 game in 11... More chance of getting him then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Lee Sinnott said: He's won 1 game in 11... They’re a point off the playoffs….On crowds of just over 3k I’d say they are punching well above their weight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrek Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 6 hours ago, JoeP said: Have a listen to the Phone-In from last night - Wild is ambitious, but is just being clever about it. He's not rushing to the top to "fall off a cliff" in his words, but taking his time, learning all he can and making a career out of it. It was really interesting what he had to say - he's a very astute manager. Particularly relevant to us was that he insists on having the final say on recruitment, in spite of the background research from other departments of the football club and also why it's important to persevere with Plan A and not panic and go straight to Plan B (although I do wonder what you'd do if Plan A is rubbish to start with!!). I'd love it if he came back here, however I think it'd be clubs who are above where he is now who'll be after him rather than ones beneath! We are all ambitious at times in our career. My point was he's not an ambitious target for us. Take away the latics link and people wouldn't be too keen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 11 hours ago, Shrek said: We are all ambitious at times in our career. My point was he's not an ambitious target for us. Take away the latics link and people wouldn't be too keen. Who would you consider an ambitious target for us, then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 11 hours ago, Shrek said: We are all ambitious at times in our career. My point was he's not an ambitious target for us. Take away the latics link and people wouldn't be too keen. Peter Wild would have been perfect for us THIS season - he had managed Halifax to a fourth place final position and knew the standard of the league and the good players- it was unfortunate that the takeover hadn’t gone through earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 19 minutes ago, JoeP said: Who would you consider an ambitious target for us, then? Wellens... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 20 minutes ago, deyres42 said: Wellens... Indeed. He took us down though, apparently. Klopp might be out of a job soon. Failing that - Keith Curle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 53 minutes ago, JoeP said: Who would you consider an ambitious target for us, then? Simon Weaver or Matt Gray... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBigDog Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 18 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: Simon Weaver or Matt Gray... Unfortunately neither are realistic targets… Matt Gray, born in London and spent his whole life south of Watford - managing Sutton United and would probably only move to a southern based club Simon Weaver, has been at Harrogate for yonks (since 2009) and his dad is chairman… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceskylatic Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 8 minutes ago, TheBigDog said: Unfortunately neither are realistic targets… Matt Gray, born in London and spent his whole life south of Watford - managing Sutton United and would probably only move to a southern based club Simon Weaver, has been at Harrogate for yonks (since 2009) and his dad is chairman… Added to that, they’re both below Pete Wild’s Barrow in the table. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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