Sparkleking Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 I'm glad we signed Norwood on Thursday. I doubt he would have signed had he seen today's performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norewgian Gunnar Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 I have only recently joined the forum but have been attending BP since 1990. I have been optimistic about this season but after seeing 3 pre season friendlies and looking at today's car crash I cannot see how DU can put an attack minded side in place. Starting Nuttall with Norwood was just not what I expected but midfield certainly needs sorting still. Maybe a "Rooney" to support Norwood with Green and Tollitt. Willoughby also needs a chance and big Mike is certainly one to start before Nuttall in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 1 hour ago, deyres42 said: 90 minutes and we've gone backwards have we yeah? Deary me. We’ll we ain’t gone forwards that’s for sure!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 1 hour ago, mcfluff1985 said: Your opinion didn't count while boycotting then? Is it back to needing to attend games to be a supporter? I didn't boycott so I'm not sure why you've said that?, there is a difference between clapping, booing or whatever it is the fans do and then going on a forum for bites slagging off the behaviour of fans when you can't even get down the ground to support the team, never mind travel 500 miles to witness that car crash we've seen today. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarddog73 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 55 minutes ago, St92 said: Looking ahead to Aldershot, Sutton will be suspended so assuming we have our current squad, 5 at the back won't be possible So likely a Kitching Hogan Raglan Hobson back 4 I'd love to see a Willoughby Norwood Green front 3 with Dickenson in the midfield 3 However I'm expecting 442 with Nuttall and any other ST there Why play three centrehalfs in a back four? That's the problem today Unsworth/Ebbrell didn't have the balls to perm two from the three and leave one of them out, balance of the team is completely wrong and again today we did nothing at 1-0 down to change it, it's basic fucking stuff and all Ebbrell did was stand there like something off the muppet show. Gardner should of been introduced, a defender pulled and we should of tried to get our foot on the ball, why doesn't Shelton play right back as he did at Hartlepool?, he isn't a central midfielder as he turns the ball over at will, Sheron today was fucking awful as well which didn't help. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyyou Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 Quirky, but true. As things stand, we play the top four in our first four fixtures! Let's hope we sign a genuine RB/RWB as a matter of urgency, get Lundstram fit and hope Ward injury is nothing serious. Until we have two proper WBs we surely cannot play 3 5 2 again, particularly with centre mids who can't dictate play creatively. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 1 minute ago, yarddog73 said: Looking ahead to Aldershot, Sutton will be suspended so assuming we have our current squad, 5 at the back won't be possible He’ll probably sign a FB by then!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayItLivo Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 (edited) The strategy for every team in the league who plays against us should just be to do what Southend did today, come out fast and close us down from the get go. Elementary, but it was massively effective today because we struggle to get the ball down, when we do the players panic and can’t string two passes together, so we have zero rhythm and constantly give the ball away, and we don’t adjust to that tactic until 3/4 of the game played. Easy stuff. Edited August 5, 2023 by PlayItLivo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 10 minutes ago, Boyyou said: Quirky, but true. As things stand, we play the top four in our first four fixtures! Let's hope we sign a genuine RB/RWB as a matter of urgency, get Lundstram fit and hope Ward injury is nothing serious. Until we have two proper WBs we surely cannot play 3 5 2 again, particularly with centre mids who can't dictate play creatively. Said it over and over, you cannot play wing backs unless you have dedicated wing backs to play the role. It is a specialist position. You cannot put a cb/rb/rm/rw in that position and expect them to produce at RWB. Why Unsworth and his pals can’t see this is mind boggling. Pathetic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyyou Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 1 minute ago, LightDN123 said: Said it over and over, you cannot play wing backs unless you have dedicated wing backs to play the role. It is a specialist position. You cannot put a cb/rb/rm/rw in that position and expect them to produce at RWB. Why Unsworth and his pals can’t see this is mind boggling. Pathetic Couldn't agree more. Dickenson has played the LWB role. We need one for RWB who understands the job. If that means Kitching is benched, so be it. But we must stop trying to shoehorn players into the system. Either that or we revert to four at the back (still need RB) and one of the 3 CBs has to drop out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 A very disappointing start and even more disappointing to read that Unsworth has chucked young Sutton under a bus again by playing him as a wing back, as he did in the last away horror show at Wrexham... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted August 5, 2023 Author Share Posted August 5, 2023 not sure how much is gettin free speeched but pretty much everyones comments seem depressingly fuckin accurate and eloquently presented Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 6 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: A very disappointing start and even more disappointing to read that Unsworth has chucked young Sutton under a bus again by playing him as a wing back, as he did in the last away horror show at Wrexham... And his use of a striker he has chased since October has been equally disappointing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diggleblue Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 21 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: Why play three centrehalfs in a back four? That's the problem today Unsworth/Ebbrell didn't have the balls to perm two from the three and leave one of them out, balance of the team is completely wrong and again today we did nothing at 1-0 down to change it, it's basic fucking stuff and all Ebbrell did was stand there like something off the muppet show. Gardner should of been introduced, a defender pulled and we should of tried to get our foot on the ball, why doesn't Shelton play right back as he did at Hartlepool?, he isn't a central midfielder as he turns the ball over at will, Sheron today was fucking awful as well which didn't help. Thought Ebbrells response on official website was pathetic. No anger just calm acceptance of poor play and result. Where is the fire we need to sort this team out. Once again he thinks training will correct everything.It won't. Chesterfield had desire to win today and played up to the end and got their reward.How great it would be to see a latics team with desire and belief oh and effort. God help us if Unsworth gets long covid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: And his use of a striker he has chased since October has been equally disappointing... Couldn’t get on the pitch at all today. Should be sacked for his treatment of Sutton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 1 minute ago, diggleblue said: Thought Ebbrells response on official website was pathetic. No anger just calm acceptance of poor play and result. Where is the fire we need to sort this team out. Once again he thinks training will correct everything.It won't. Chesterfield had desire to win today and played up to the end and got their reward.How great it would be to see a latics team with desire and belief oh and effort. God help us if Unsworth gets long covid. You'd hope they'd be calm after one result or else we are in a pickle... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyyou Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: A very disappointing start and even more disappointing to read that Unsworth has chucked young Sutton under a bus again by playing him as a wing back, as he did in the last away horror show at Wrexham... Especially as he could have left out a CB, put Sutton at RB, where he looks a little more comfortable, and played Shelton in front of him as cover. As Southend are good in wide areas, could have done same with Dickenson playing ahead of Kitching. Midfield pair of Sheron, Ward and the graft of Willoughby, Norwood up top would surely have been better balanced and defensively more solid if that was the intention Edited August 5, 2023 by Boyyou 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightDN123 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 Just now, Boyyou said: Especially as he could have left out a CB, put Sutton at RB, where he looks a little more comfortable, and played Shelton in front of him as cover. As Southend are good in wide areas, could have done same with Dickenson playing ahead of Kitching. Midfield pair of Sheron, Ward and the graft of Willoughby, Norwood up top would surely have been better balanced and defensively more solid of that was the intention Bridge was always the danger man today for them (as BP rightly pointed out). As bad as I think Hope is, he could have played infront of Sutton to offer him protection. Drop one of the three centre backs (Hogan), play Ward in the left wing, Shelton and Sheron in the middle, and Nuttall and Norwood up top. Not an ideal side, but far more balanced than the shit we played today. Bet Tollitt, Reid and Hope are sat laughing they couldn’t even make the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St92 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 49 minutes ago, yarddog73 said: Why play three centrehalfs in a back four? That's the problem today Unsworth/Ebbrell didn't have the balls to perm two from the three and leave one of them out, balance of the team is completely wrong and again today we did nothing at 1-0 down to change it, it's basic fucking stuff and all Ebbrell did was stand there like something off the muppet show. Gardner should of been introduced, a defender pulled and we should of tried to get our foot on the ball, why doesn't Shelton play right back as he did at Hartlepool?, he isn't a central midfielder as he turns the ball over at will, Sheron today was fucking awful as well which didn't help. I don't see who plays RB in the current squad If we sign a new one before then, then I'd agree we should pick 2 But with the squad as it is, it's Shelton or Hobson and if Lundstram isn't fit Shelton probably has to play CM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 2 hours ago, Careca9 said: 0-3 v Mansfield pre season in first proper game against decent oppo. 0-4 today. The optimism is coming from the signings not anything on the pitch. Even the run last season was lucky at times. My worst nightmare is a lucky win at home next week that keeps the pressure off Unsy. Aldershot scored 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted August 5, 2023 Author Share Posted August 5, 2023 1 minute ago, St92 said: I don't see who plays RB in the current squad If we sign a new one before then, then I'd agree we should pick 2 But with the squad as it is, it's Shelton or Hobson and if Lundstram isn't fit Shelton probably has to play CM Shelton RB Garder CM with Sheron. if Lundstrum or Ward available play a 433 if not 44fuckin2 l can't believe l'm saying it. this day, man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceskylatic Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Monty Burns said: Shelton RB Garder CM with Sheron. if Lundstrum or Ward available play a 433 if not 44fuckin2 l can't believe l'm saying it. this day, man I’d imagine Gardner will be eased in. Lundstram or Dickenson in for Ward if he’s injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diggleblue Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, deyres42 said: You'd hope they'd be calm after one result or else we are in a pickle... The result today was irrelevant it was the manner of the defeat and just like last year no evidence of any plan or cohesion in the team. Players in wrong positions and being expected to do things they're not capable of doing.No recognised R.B. and no creative midfield to service the strikers.Nuttall has had ample time on the pitch to impress and IMO shouldn't be in the team. Why is whillouby not being given a chance.This manager is ruining most of our players and has produced a team who are allegedly great in training but crap on match days. This needs sorting just as it did for most of last season.The menu choices are better but the meal is still shit.We need a new chef before the food gets cold. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 25 minutes ago, diggleblue said: Thought Ebbrells response on official website was pathetic. No anger just calm acceptance of poor play and result. Where is the fire we need to sort this team out. Once again he thinks training will correct everything.It won't. Chesterfield had desire to win today and played up to the end and got their reward.How great it would be to see a latics team with desire and belief oh and effort. God help us if Unsworth gets long covid. Forgot you were in the changing room to see his reaction in there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 1 minute ago, diggleblue said: Why is whillouby not being given a chance. We've played one game. Not like we are ten matches in and he's not had any minutes. Grow up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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