LaticsLegend Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 1 hour ago, deyres42 said: Don't forget lads, no comments allowed if you didn't attend the match. Does it not get tiring playing the smart arse all the time? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deyres42 Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 1 minute ago, LaticsLegend said: Does it not get tiring playing the smart arse all the time? Did you go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handsy Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 Well slept on it and woke up this morning decided to try and take positives out of that shambolic performance ( there’s not many). Putting aside the cries for a better goalie as he is beat to easily from long range shots Magnus is not the problem. Sutton was probably our best player up until his sending off, but he is the biggest square peg in a round hole we need a right back urgently as we have done since last season this should of been our first signing close season . Hogan for me is not a captain I’ve not seen any leadership from him in games when we are under the cosh. Although we signed Lundstrum and Ward who look like an upgrade in midfield from last season only time will tell and I’d of made a creative midfielder of experience our second signing in the summer someone in the Elliot Lee of Wrexham mould. On to the forwards we’ve got an abundance of options they all bring different things to the table Nuttall and one of the others seems the managers choice atm, I’m still of the opinion that of the big men Nuttall has more to offer than big Mike who is more suited as an impact off the bench against a tiring defence. Saying that Nuttall needs to up his game big time. On to the positives Dickenson looked good in his cameo yesterday and the potential is there for a good left side with Kitching and Norwood will get goals of that there is no doubt. so for me go 442 And have a go at teams Ffs 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rootshallbloke Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 Truly, I think you were very unlucky to play us at this particular time. After months of unrest and arse ache through the summer, the whole team, coaching staff and the crowd just weren't going to allow anything but a convincing win. You will undoubtedly break your duck soon as you had some very useful looking players there, including Hobbo (can we have him back please). Hopefully both clubs will be scrapping it out for the top at the end of the season, but I still fear for us given the size of our squad. Our 1st choice 11 is as good as anyone's in this division on it's day, but we are desperately short of back up players when the injuries hit (as they will). It was quite enlightening to see that your board can go into melt down just as badly as ours after a footballing disaster, but that's footie fans for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Branston Pickle Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 Next Saturday already feels like a massive game. I know it's a long season, but there's been a lot of investment this summer and expectations have rightly been raised. If results don't come it'll get toxic quickly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, Rootshallbloke said: Truly, I think you were very unlucky to play us at this particular time. After months of unrest and arse ache through the summer, the whole team, coaching staff and the crowd just weren't going to allow anything but a convincing win. You will undoubtedly break your duck soon as you had some very useful looking players there, including Hobbo (can we have him back please). Hopefully both clubs will be scrapping it out for the top at the end of the season, but I still fear for us given the size of our squad. Our 1st choice 11 is as good as anyone's in this division on it's day, but we are desperately short of back up players when the injuries hit (as they will). It was quite enlightening to see that your board can go into melt down just as badly as ours after a footballing disaster, but that's footie fans for you. Even when Southend lost at BP last season we could all see this is the kind of football fans are craving for here. Hope all goes well and if the embargo is lifted you will soon fly high 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcfluff1985 Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 12 minutes ago, Handsy said: Sutton was probably our best player up until his sending off, This is up there with the worst views I've seen. He was awful. Got beat by his man every time. He's never a RB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP1960 Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, Guy Branston Pickle said: Next Saturday already feels like a massive game. I know it's a long season, but there's been a lot of investment this summer and expectations have rightly been raised. If results don't come it'll get toxic quickly. And Aldershot scored 5 yesterday, so I guess DU will go ultra defensive again to avoid that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShireBlue Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 Listened to our commentary on iPlayer (fantastic way to waste a fiver..), but didn’t catch any mention of Lundstram being out for a possible 4 weeks, as previously mentioned on here. You hope to God he’s back sooner than that because he’s going to be crucial to us in the middle of the park. Hopefully Ward’s knock isn’t too bad either. Dickenson is going to be thrown straight into the side and sounded as though he didn’t disgrace himself yesterday. Two home games next. Points a must. 4 at the minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_Og Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 18 minutes ago, Handsy said: Well slept on it and woke up this morning decided to try and take positives out of that shambolic performance ( there’s not many). Putting aside the cries for a better goalie as he is beat to easily from long range shots Magnus is not the problem. Sutton was probably our best player up until his sending off, but he is the biggest square peg in a round hole we need a right back urgently as we have done since last season this should of been our first signing close season . Hogan for me is not a captain I’ve not seen any leadership from him in games when we are under the cosh. Although we signed Lundstrum and Ward who look like an upgrade in midfield from last season only time will tell and I’d of made a creative midfielder of experience our second signing in the summer someone in the Elliot Lee of Wrexham mould. On to the forwards we’ve got an abundance of options they all bring different things to the table Nuttall and one of the others seems the managers choice atm, I’m still of the opinion that of the big men Nuttall has more to offer than big Mike who is more suited as an impact off the bench against a tiring defence. Saying that Nuttall needs to up his game big time. On to the positives Dickenson looked good in his cameo yesterday and the potential is there for a good left side with Kitching and Norwood will get goals of that there is no doubt. so for me go 442 And have a go at teams Ffs How is coming on halfway through the first half a cameo? Sutton did ok to a point, certainly got more decent crosses in than Kitching did. Couldn't give anyone more than 5/10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Londonboy Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 54 minutes ago, BP1960 said: What surprises me most is that Frank being such a positive person is allowing such negativity to continue on the playing side. It's said owners shouldn't interfere, but I feel he needs to stamp his own philosophy on the club and let the manager know the ultra defensive mentality has to change...and quickly. Some will shoot me down as usual, but in this case I dont care, I want far better than these ponderous tactics on the field. Yes BP I'll shoot you down....owners shouldn't interfere. That's why they are not managers or coaches, bar Marc at Dorking. The board have on more than one occasion been clear they will not interfere in team selection or tactics which is how it should be. However their job is release investment to build a strong squad and to appoint a management team that can meet the aspirations of the investment. Point one they have delivered on in abundance, however it's clear to all now that after over a year they have made the wrong choice unfortunately on the manager and his assistants positions. Loyalty only goes so far. Big Joe needs to be more vocal to Frank and Darren. Surely with all his experience he can see DU is out of his depth, and change is needed now. He needs to...in my humble opinion...get off that big arse of his and advise Frank to pull the plug on Unsworth now, and go and find a coach who can get us promoted. We can clearly pay what would be needed, and with the rest of the club in such good shape there would be no shortage of takers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Branston Pickle Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 The abuse directed towards Nuttall is a disgrace by the way. He was one of the only players that looked like a footballer yesterday yet he still gets stick. Wouldn't blame him for leaving, a lot of fans have made their minds up about him. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 9 minutes ago, Londonboy said: Yes BP I'll shoot you down....owners shouldn't interfere. That's why they are not managers or coaches, bar Marc at Dorking. The board have on more than one occasion been clear they will not interfere in team selection or tactics which is how it should be. However their job is release investment to build a strong squad and to appoint a management team that can meet the aspirations of the investment. Point one they have delivered on in abundance, however it's clear to all now that after over a year they have made the wrong choice unfortunately on the manager and his assistants positions. Loyalty only goes so far. Big Joe needs to be more vocal to Frank and Darren. Surely with all his experience he can see DU is out of his depth, and change is needed now. He needs to...in my humble opinion...get off that big arse of his and advise Frank to pull the plug on Unsworth now, and go and find a coach who can get us promoted. We can clearly pay what would be needed, and with the rest of the club in such good shape there would be no shortage of takers. Agreed- I don’t think they will ever interfere, they’ve far to much class for that. But equally they’re not stupid, and if it carries on I suspect Frank will be talking to Darren first if he’s thinking about a change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted August 6, 2023 Author Share Posted August 6, 2023 1 hour ago, LaticsLegend said: Does it not get tiring playing the smart arse all the time? yes thats why l disappear for days at a time then come bombing back in after lve had a few kips and some food 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, League one forever said: Agreed- I don’t think they will ever interfere, they’ve far to much class for that. But equally they’re not stupid, and if it carries on I suspect Frank will be talking to Darren first if he’s thinking about a change. Doesn't the story go that Mr Rothwell intervened in the deal that would have brought Colclough to the club...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted August 6, 2023 Author Share Posted August 6, 2023 42 minutes ago, BP1960 said: Even when Southend lost at BP last season we could all see this is the kind of football fans are craving for here. Hope all goes well and if the embargo is lifted you will soon fly high quite a few of the same players on show, which was pointed out to us prior. we took them lightly on and off the pitch and got whallopped for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafc1955 Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 12 minutes ago, Guy Branston Pickle said: He was one of the only players that looked like a footballer yesterday Not exactly a glowing endorsement amongst a sea of shite. IMO he is slow, cumbersome, gets outmuscled too easily and has a poor 1st touch. I thought he would get better over time but he has shown no improvement whatsoever! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League one forever Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: Doesn't the story go that Mr Rothwell intervened in the deal that would have brought Colclough to the club...? Not sure mate, I don’t have any sources at the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted August 6, 2023 Author Share Posted August 6, 2023 37 minutes ago, Dave_Og said: How is coming on halfway through the first half a cameo? Sutton did ok to a point, certainly got more decent crosses in than Kitching did. Couldn't give anyone more than 5/10 l'm suprised lm on here so soon after that yesterday didnt expect l would be able wade straight into the meltdown. l'm suprised youre reading it tbh but its good to see you here too!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 1 minute ago, League one forever said: Not sure mate, I don’t have any sources at the club. https://twitter.com/samuelgill25/status/1611683447432413185?t=uu1qp0Wx9Ryyjc5kSRpbwA&s=19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted August 6, 2023 Author Share Posted August 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, Lee Sinnott said: Doesn't the story go that Mr Rothwell intervened in the deal that would have brought Colclough to the club...? l think it's called positive discrimination. you can interefere 'morally' once or twice for free if you don't like something. also sacking him wouldn't be classed as interfering, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowenicki Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 (edited) 20 hours ago, Dave_Og said: Although we should have been one up after three. Doubt it would have changed anything. On reflection this is a horrendous result. Psychologically damaging for the players. Complete mood killer for the fans at the first home game. Any optimism and positivity from the signings, new surroundings and improvements has evaporated. Losing your first game of the season 4-0 in such a weak and pathetic manner is a big hole to get out of. They are going to have to be at it from minute 1 to 90 on Saturday to get the mood back. Edited August 6, 2023 by kowenicki 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Tic Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 We never help ourselves do we, next Saturday should be a big crowd and a celebration to the start of the season ( which I’m sure it still will be) but that underlying anxiety will now be there and any balls ups will rightly or wrongly be jumped upon by sections of the crowd, which in turn will inhibit the players confidence even more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Sinnott Posted August 6, 2023 Share Posted August 6, 2023 16 minutes ago, Monty Burns said: l think it's called positive discrimination. you can interefere 'morally' once or twice for free if you don't like something. also sacking him wouldn't be classed as interfering, right? Very true and a certain level of interference is acceptable, especially as it's the Rothwell family who are putting the money in... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Burns Posted August 6, 2023 Author Share Posted August 6, 2023 l'm not blind faith backing him because my only vested interest is Latics and nearly everybody on here is the same in that regard. Fooball with no passing or tackling is A FUCKIN SHIT TRAINING SESSION THAT ALL THE PLAYERS HATE. it is NOT an acceptable match tactic outside of international level Football. get him told Mick. that is why he has people like you around him, to tell tje truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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