Diego_Sideburns Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Thinking way back to school days, I seem to remember that it takes the same amount of heat energy to thaw ice as it does to boil the equivalent weight of water to 70°C or something. Also don't ice crystals start forming in the water at about 3°C? I would think we need some rain to help thaw the pitch rather than slightly warmer weather. Can anyone confirm or has dementia finally set in? Derek. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=wzHXiGdMvkU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edhunteruk Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=wzHXiGdMvkU they need to turn the pitch sprinklers on with red hot water coming out of them to melt it,then borrow that big sponge machine from lancashire cricket to mop up then put the covers on...oiece of cake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekWilson_1968 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=wzHXiGdMvkU Can't see it at work Diego. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ritchie Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 I’d put Crossley’s hot water bottle on the pitch and get some kids from a local school to do some roly polys in the Chaddy End. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daznathe Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 they need to turn the pitch sprinklers on with red hot water coming out of them to melt it,then borrow that big sponge machine from lancashire cricket to mop up then put the covers on...oiece of cake. barry fry was on ssnews yesterday, saying that his pitch was 95% playable with one or two frozen areas. i did think that surely that was nothing a few buckets of warm water from the showers couldnt fix! bloody stupid these guys, cant do owt reet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 A bloke on the radio from pitchcare.com said it would cost £180,000/£200,000 to install undersoil heating if not done as part of a complete pitch reconstruction. It would also cost £3,500 per day in runnnig costs. The final say is with the ref, and if only an aea of a couple of square metres of the pitch is not satisfactory, he would call the game off in the interest of the players' safety. The problem with undersoil heating is that it dries out the pitch, and then irrigation is required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitch_KTF Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Thinking way back to school days, I seem to remember that it takes the same amount of heat energy to thaw ice as it does to boil the equivalent weight of water to 70°C or something. Also don't ice crystals start forming in the water at about 3°C? Way back indeed... A bloke on the radio from pitchcare.com said it would cost £180,000/£200,000 to install undersoil heating if not done as part of a complete pitch reconstruction. It would also cost £3,500 per day in runnnig costs. The final say is with the ref, and if only an aea of a couple of square metres of the pitch is not satisfactory, he would call the game off in the interest of the players' safety. The problem with undersoil heating is that it dries out the pitch, and then irrigation is required. That's that then! I assume that is only when it's switched on? Or is it for general maintenance including the irrigation and what not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 That's that then! I assume that is only when it's switched on? Or is it for general maintenance including the irrigation and what not? When switched on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 (edited) The final say is with the ref, and if only an aea of a couple of square metres of the pitch is not satisfactory, he would call the game off in the interest of the players' safety. Burton Albion's game was called off last night because of the pitch, but Nigel Clough took training on it for the last time and added: "I’m going to miss working with them. They’ve been training, on a treacherous pitch, running around like small kids at times, laughing and enjoying it. I’ll miss that. Edited January 7, 2009 by Diego_Sideburns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitch_KTF Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 When switched on. You know that feeling.....the one where you know a question is silly but ask it anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostofcecere Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Weren't we one of the first club to install undersoil heating way back? Also, why the hell did we not get undersoil heating again when we went back to grass? We were in the top flight at the time and we had a few quid! Surely it would have been better to spend some money on that rather than £800K on Ian Olney!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spadam Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 my mate in a nearby town said the answer to our problems could be lighting loads of fires in metal dustbins or braziers on the pitch,perhaps people who are in industrial disputes could give us some tips on how to light and keep the fires burning That's a plan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekWilson_1968 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Way back indeed... Indeedy squire. That will teach me to work and read message boards at the same time. Derek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dean 1984 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 match p-p sat just done a pitch inspection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futchers briefs Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 match p-p sat just done a pitch inspection Thanks for the update of the state of St Matthews Primary schools pitch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 There is a marked improvement in the weather here in the central Midlands, with all frost having disappeared. What's it like up around ISZ today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 There is a marked improvement in the weather here in the central Midlands, with all frost having disappeared. What's it like up around ISZ today? Milder, but a forecast of -3 to -5 for tonight and tomorrow... That's what my desktop widget thingy says anyhow.... EDIT: May I add that there is still widespread snow on the ground too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 There is a marked improvement in the weather here in the central Midlands, with all frost having disappeared. What's it like up around ISZ today? Coalshaw Green Park is at the back of my house and although there is no snow on the street there is loads on the park still. Going for my Hereford tickets this afternoon will post an update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fyldelatic Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Coalshaw Green Park is at the back of my house and although there is no snow on the street there is loads on the park still. Going for my Hereford tickets this afternoon will post an update. Overnight lows for tonight and tommorow are forecast to be no lower than zero. If they can remove the snow and if the soil underneath isn't frozen, they can put overnight covers to protect against frost and the pitch should be ok for Saturday, when the temperature is set to zoom to 5-6C. It's very mild here on the Fylde, temp around 5C, sunny and no frost anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego_Sideburns Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 The weather forecast in the Advertiser is looking good, but no temperature given for tonight. Today Forecast: Periods of sun Rain probability: 7% Temp High: 5°C / 42°F Wind Strength: Light Breeze Wind Direction: South Tonight Forecast: Partly cloudy Rain probability: 7% Wind Strength: Light Breeze Wind Direction: South Friday Forecast: Mostly sunny Rain probability: 1% Temp High: 5°C / 41°F Temp Low: -1°C / 29°F Wind Strength: Light Breeze Wind Direction: South-South-East Saturday Forecast: Partly sunny Rain probability: 5% Temp High: 5°C / 41°F Temp Low: 2°C / 36°F Wind Strength: Moderate Breeze Wind Direction: South Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daznathe Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 im feeling confident this morning.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellys_discopants Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 (edited) my mate in a nearby town said the answer to our problems could be lighting loads of fires in metal dustbins or braziers on the pitch,perhaps people who are in industrial disputes could give us some tips on how to light and keep the fires burning Rochdale have mastered that art it seems .. seen them on SSN with the pitch alight! Edited January 8, 2009 by kellys_discopants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeslover Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 Coalshaw Green Park is at the back of my house and although there is no snow on the street there is loads on the park still. Should be right then if they grit the pitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_bro Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 The weather forecast in the Advertiser is looking good, but no temperature given for tonight. Today Forecast: Periods of sun Rain probability: 7% Temp High: 5°C / 42°F Wind Strength: Light Breeze Wind Direction: South Tonight Forecast: Partly cloudy Rain probability: 7% Wind Strength: Light Breeze Wind Direction: South Friday Forecast: Mostly sunny Rain probability: 1% Temp High: 5°C / 41°F Temp Low: -1°C / 29°F Wind Strength: Light Breeze Wind Direction: South-South-East Saturday Forecast: Partly sunny Rain probability: 5% Temp High: 5°C / 41°F Temp Low: 2°C / 36°F Wind Strength: Moderate Breeze Wind Direction: South I woner how they manage to forecast rain possibility at 7% and 1% and 5%. Surely they could just say very low!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oafcprozac Posted January 8, 2009 Share Posted January 8, 2009 (edited) I woner how they manage to forecast rain possibility at 7% and 1% and 5%. Surely they could just say very low!! Greegs in his LW interview reckons its 70/30 against it being on. Pitch is still rock hard as of this morning. Edited January 8, 2009 by oafcprozac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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